Why Mexicans immigrate to the US

[Ducimus]

Why i'm not a big fan of Mexicans summarized in one picture, and It doesn't take a genius to see why.

[Aktungbby]

perhaps your sig should read " We da pipples...! "

[Wolferz]

You don't like the phat Mexican girls, Duci?
They love you long time senor' Especially if you're willing to anchor them here.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

perhaps your sig should read " We da pipples...! "

Perhaps you should look up the definition for the word integration. Its a rather novel concept to people who entered our country illegally, and then demand we speak their language, make no attempt to learn ours, all the while demanding entitlements, and proudly flying the flag of a foreign country over ours. It is as inexcusable as it is unforgivable, and anyone who does that has no place here regardless of skin color.


In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

-Theodore Roosevelt 1907

These are not Americans.

[Phyrrus]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Perhaps you should look up the definition for the word integration. Its a rather novel concept to people who entered our country illegally, and then demand we speak their language, make no attempt to learn ours, all the while demanding entitlements, and proudly flying the flag of a foreign country over ours. It is as inexcusable as it is unforgivable, and anyone who does that has no place here regardless of skin color.

[i]
In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

-Theodore Roosevelt 1907

Ducimus, this is the essence of what I tried to say, thank you for helping me out. It seems to me that some people could understand my point, even if I am not native english and my way of speaking is not one that many are accustomed to. Others decided not to see the whole picture, but get lost into details and rip my words apart, and attack them one by one.

Mr Tribesman, I really appreciate that you took the bother and replied to me, and analyzed my every word and clung on to my every mistake, be it ideological or grammatical, that showed to me that this matter is of a great importance to you, and that is enough for me
I do not want to change your way of thinking, i just want you to THINK, time and circumstances will do the rest. I do not expect you to understand me, you live in a relative safe country, in great confort, presumably with lots or at least enough money, while I was born in a poverty stricken, god forsaken country in eastern europe, and lived 20 years in the darkest communism - it cannot be for us to think the same. Twisted isnt it, that ME, the former immigrant, am trying to defend YOUR wellbeing against MY kind o people? I think I will stop that and turn my energies into something more useful. Maybe I should go back to England with the next plane... hmmm, are there any good jobs for me in Galway?

[Phyrrus]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

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TribesBBY: you're wasting your considerable talents on this one whom I fear has brought some old school multi-generational incurred values with him in his baggage. You'll win the argument, but your Phyrric victory ain't worth the carpal tunnel syndrome better spent quaffing one in a Galway pub; I worked immigration at the SF location( met lots of Celtic lasses on summer work 'Accommodation') and the bottom line is: people are just people...The world over. I'm a Minnasoteese immigrant to California and only the weather matters to me.(YOU BETCHA) Nice to hear someone like Phyrrus once in awhile though, so we are reminded what the problem still sounds like...the first part of the solution being vigilance! Hopefully enlightenment will set in.

As for you, Aktungbby, you left me in awe of your wisdom, I am pleasantly surprised that someone apart historians still knows what a pyrrhic victory means... I can be sarcastic as well, as you see, but that is no my aim. Actually I have no aim at all. This is no contest, and there is nothing to win. You are right about that this will change nothing, Earth will not stop spinning and immigration will not be solved if we argue about it in this forum. So Tribesman is indeed wasting his talents. We are here only to share thoughts in the hopes that those thoughts may start others to think or open hidden perspecticves, that's all. Nothing to win or lose here.
On a side note though, sarcasm and irony is just a way of putting your head under the sand, like an ostrich. You can choose not to give a damn about the world and care only for yourself and the sunshine, but that does not mean that the problems does not exist. I envy you to some extent, I am socially sensitive by nature, I couldnt give up yet the need to try not changing, but at least noticing and adjusting the world around me. Maybe I have a lot to learn from you

Now if you excuse me, I have to read the evening tale to my 3 year old kid, so... good night to everyone

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Perhaps you should look up the definition for the word integration. Its a rather novel concept to people who entered our country illegally, and then demand we speak their language, make no attempt to learn ours, all the while demanding entitlements, and proudly flying the flag of a foreign country over ours. It is as inexcusable as it is unforgivable, and anyone who does that has no place here regardless of skin color.


In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

-Theodore Roosevelt 1907

These are not Americans.

Montebello? that sounds kinda Spanish doesn't it, I would assume that a Spanish sounding place would have Spanish speaking people.
So it must be the non Spanish speakers who are the ones who failed to integrate
Nice quote from Theodore, I wonder if he played any role in adding more Spanish speaking places to the US holdings?
If he had known how much you would dislike latinos from your early life in the formerly Spanish territory of California I am sure he wouldn't have gone riding roughly to help add more Hispanics to the pot

Originally Posted by Phyrrus

Mr Tribesman, I really appreciate that you took the bother and replied to me, and analyzed my every word and clung on to my every mistake, be it ideological or grammatical, that showed to me that this matter is of a great importance to you, and that is enough for me
I do not want to change your way of thinking, i just want you to THINK, time and circumstances will do the rest. I do not expect you to understand me, you live in a relative safe country, in great confort, presumably with lots or at least enough money, while I was born in a poverty stricken, god forsaken country in eastern europe, and lived 20 years in the darkest communism - it cannot be for us to think the same. Twisted isnt it, that ME, the former immigrant, am trying to defend YOUR wellbeing against MY kind o people? I think I will stop that and turn my energies into something more useful. Maybe I should go back to England with the next plane... hmmm, are there any good jobs for me in Galway?

That's funny, Ireland is often described as a god forsaken poverty ridden country in Western Europe, and arguably has been since its creation.
Its people are certainly no strangers to all the issues involved with migration.
Is there any particular reason why you assume people don't think?
Your views however are ones that time and circumstance can change, as long as you think.

[Oberon]

[Aktungbby]

Sopwith Camel; no chute

[Aktungbby]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

Sopwith Camel: no chute

[Aktungbby]

... some holes in the fabric here! Sacre!

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Aktungbby

Sopwith Camel; no chute

Bad for morale don't you know.

Here, have a little something to enjoy in the meantime:



And



Worth looking at the other vids on the guys channel, some lovely footage, especially his Mustang ride, just beautiful.

[Aktungbby]

duplicate post

[Aktungbby]

Good stuff there!

[Aktungbby]

God airplanes stuff her Oberon thanks!