Herman Cain...driving the left crazy

Bubblehead1980 · 10-11-11, 01:20 PM

The true racists in American politics...the left/democrats are really showing it with their attitude towards Herman Cain because he is not on the "democratic plantation" as he put it.A intelligent, successful, self reliant and made black man that is not "down" for the (alleged) "struggle" and does not play the victim card really does drive these people crazy.

Lawrence O Donnell is the most recent example with his attempted hatchet job on Cain during an interview last week, but Cain is too smart for a hack such as O Donnell. Anyone else enjoying this?

Cain's interview with O Donnell:

lengthy but worth the watch.

AVGWarhawk · 10-11-11, 01:30 PM

I watched this last week. O'Donnell should really consider another line of work.

soopaman2 · 10-11-11, 01:45 PM

Mr. 1980, I believe he is driving the right crazy too.

The bosses want Perry, They want someone who will play ball.

Herman is a loose cannon, I am (and it is no secret) more inclined to leftists beliefs, but Mr. Cain speaks truth. He is honest, not teleprompter driven.

He don't have the financial support the other candidates have, and is still making himself out to be the stronger, less controversial candidate.

At this point, just like before with Bush the country seems to be seeking an anything but Obama ticket. But seem to be less reckless this time around. When it was "anything but bush, they blew past more competent politicians (with balls and experience) like Mrs. Clinton . Who would have had the fortitude to muscle a non-cooperative congress around.(I am not as articulate as some around here,It don't make my opinions any less relevant

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Osmium Steele · 10-11-11, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

The bosses want Perry, They want someone who will play ball.

Disagree with you here. The public liked the thought of Perry, until he tanked a few debates. The big boys are backing Romney this time around.

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

(I am not as articulate as some around here,

Bah! You do fine.

AVGWarhawk · 10-11-11, 02:27 PM

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The big boys are backing Romney this time around.

And if these big boys back Romney against the voters wished?

August · 10-11-11, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

And if these big boys back Romney against the voters wished?

You mean like overturn GoP primary results?

soopaman2 · 10-11-11, 02:37 PM

Cain for me represents a sane middle ground. I believe in compromise. I think a fair middle ground to achieve a happy balance.

Sure I find his comments on the Wall Street Protestors repulsive. But that is just one facet of his character. It is an honest opinion and he didn't lie or dodge it like Obammy would have.

As said above, he recognizes the tax system is broken and needs to be equalized. It may mean more taxes across the brackets, but I am willing to pay for services (police, snow removal, fireman, education, first aid, SSI etc)

Bubblehead1980 · 10-11-11, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

Mr. 1980, I believe he is driving the right crazy too.

The bosses want Perry, They want someone who will play ball.

Herman is a loose cannon, I am (and it is no secret) more inclined to leftists beliefs, but Mr. Cain speaks truth. He is honest, not teleprompter driven.

He don't have the financial support the other candidates have, and is still making himself out to be the stronger, less controversial candidate.

At this point, just like before with Bush the country seems to be seeking an anything but Obama ticket. But seem to be less reckless this time around. When it was "anything but bush, they blew past more competent politicians (with balls and experience) like Mrs. Clinton . Who would have had the fortitude to muscle a non-cooperative congress around.(I am not as articulate as some around here,It don't make my opinions any less relevant

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You may be on the left I like your analysis, one of few lefties on here who are fair and mostly cordial.

Curious, why do you find Cain's comments about the Occupy Wall Street repulsive? The protesters are quite disgusting, weeks without showering, rampant drug abuse, public sex, littering etc. I am no prude but come on.Too bad Rudy is not the mayor, he would not stand for this crap.These people are not even sure what they are really protesting other than cleanliness lol.

Compare them to the tea party, peaceful, clean, protesters with a real message.Sure the OCCASIONAL crackpot gets in with a dumb sign etc but again, compare to these goons in the Occupy movement.

I agree that Cain is driving the establishment right crazy as well, because he is an authentic conservative who won't do the bidding of the GOP heads.

Takeda Shingen · 10-11-11, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

You may be on the left I like your analysis, one of few lefties on here who are fair and mostly cordial.
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Regardless of what his political views may or may not be, I am certain that soopaman appreciates being slapped with what is clearly intended as a pejorative. Of course, you've always had an odd notion of what cordiality entails.

10-11-11, 06:32 PM

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I don't think I could do 4 more years of this crap

Sobriety really hit you hard didn't it.

Bubblehead1980 · 10-11-11, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Regardless of what his political views may or may not be, I am certain that soopaman appreciates being slapped with what is clearly intended as a pejorative. Of course, you've always had an odd notion of what cordiality entails.

I was not using it as a pejorative and would not consider "lefty" or its plural as one.

soopaman2 · 10-12-11, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Regardless of what his political views may or may not be, I am certain that soopaman appreciates being slapped with what is clearly intended as a pejorative. Of course, you've always had an odd notion of what cordiality entails.

I dont see being a lefty as perjorative. I am what I am.

There's a quote by someone, and I'm not sure the exact wording, but I am sure I can convey the idea properly.

A society is only as strong as how it treats its weakest members.

I don't call for outright communism, but simply a more equal give and take.
(now to tie it into the topic)
Herman Cain realizes we need more taxes, we do, on everyone.

In truth I hate both sides. I am rooting for OWS (if they get their stuff together better) or the tea Party to emerge as viable third parties.
GE got a tax break that allowed them to actually get money back. The same CEO Imelt is working with Obama as one of his "Czars" (coincidence?)
There is also 49% of people who spew out kids, live on welfare, barely work and get a tax credit for each sprog they shoot out their vagina, as well as a bump in welfare payments.

Maybe I am not so leftist, there is alot of conservative gripes in there. I am just American, and think we should be able to do better.

Cain shows hope. Unless you want to vote for Bachmann, just for the gag factor. And so the Huffington Post has something to write about besides Palin.

JU_88 · 10-11-11, 01:50 PM

Watched it all, he dodges questions like every other politician on the planet, whats the big deal?
And the interveiwer was piss poor.

AVGWarhawk · 10-11-11, 02:08 PM

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And the interveiwer was piss poor.

Frankly, if I am the owner of this station I would have sent O'Donnell packing after watching that interview.

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Mr. Cain speaks truth. He is honest, not teleprompter driven.

He is not part of the establishment.

Armistead · 10-11-11, 02:12 PM

I like Cain, but it doesn't matter what tax policy we have, as long as laws allow corporations to move overseas they would do so in mass. Over the last generation we passed regulations to protect workers, competitive wages, regulations, etc, but we let corps move overseas where they don't have to deal. In a global economy where corps can operate where they want at will there is only one way jobs are coming back to the USA, that's when we accept piss wages, no regulations, etc....

Before corps could operate at will overseas they still made great profits, yet worked for the good of America, now they only work for the elite few.
It's a lie for the GOP to sell tax breaks as job creators, anytime we give corps tax breaks they invest it overseas and more US jobs are lost.

10-11-11, 01:20 PM	#1
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,146 Downloads: 610 Uploads: 44	Herman Cain...driving the left crazy The true racists in American politics...the left/democrats are really showing it with their attitude towards Herman Cain because he is not on the "democratic plantation" as he put it.A intelligent, successful, self reliant and made black man that is not "down" for the (alleged) "struggle" and does not play the victim card really does drive these people crazy. Lawrence O Donnell is the most recent example with his attempted hatchet job on Cain during an interview last week, but Cain is too smart for a hack such as O Donnell. Anyone else enjoying this? Cain's interview with O Donnell: lengthy but worth the watch.

10-11-11, 01:30 PM	#2
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,293 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I watched this last week. O'Donnell should really consider another line of work. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

10-11-11, 01:45 PM	#3
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	Mr. 1980, I believe he is driving the right crazy too. The bosses want Perry, They want someone who will play ball. Herman is a loose cannon, I am (and it is no secret) more inclined to leftists beliefs, but Mr. Cain speaks truth. He is honest, not teleprompter driven. He don't have the financial support the other candidates have, and is still making himself out to be the stronger, less controversial candidate. At this point, just like before with Bush the country seems to be seeking an anything but Obama ticket. But seem to be less reckless this time around. When it was "anything but bush, they blew past more competent politicians (with balls and experience) like Mrs. Clinton . Who would have had the fortitude to muscle a non-cooperative congress around.(I am not as articulate as some around here,It don't make my opinions any less relevant) __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

10-11-11, 02:37 PM	#7
soopaman2 Der Alte Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 3,316 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 0	Cain for me represents a sane middle ground. I believe in compromise. I think a fair middle ground to achieve a happy balance. Sure I find his comments on the Wall Street Protestors repulsive. But that is just one facet of his character. It is an honest opinion and he didn't lie or dodge it like Obammy would have. As said above, he recognizes the tax system is broken and needs to be equalized. It may mean more taxes across the brackets, but I am willing to pay for services (police, snow removal, fireman, education, first aid, SSI etc) __________________ If Hitler invaded Hell I would make at least a favourable reference to the devil in the House of Commons. -Winston Churchill- The most fascinating man in the world.

10-11-11, 01:50 PM	#13
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,813 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Watched it all, he dodges questions like every other politician on the planet, whats the big deal? And the interveiwer was piss poor.

10-11-11, 02:12 PM	#15
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I like Cain, but it doesn't matter what tax policy we have, as long as laws allow corporations to move overseas they would do so in mass. Over the last generation we passed regulations to protect workers, competitive wages, regulations, etc, but we let corps move overseas where they don't have to deal. In a global economy where corps can operate where they want at will there is only one way jobs are coming back to the USA, that's when we accept piss wages, no regulations, etc.... Before corps could operate at will overseas they still made great profits, yet worked for the good of America, now they only work for the elite few. It's a lie for the GOP to sell tax breaks as job creators, anytime we give corps tax breaks they invest it overseas and more US jobs are lost.