Bin Laden is dead, official

[mookiemookie]

Glad his reign is over.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by Jamoz

There is no good and evil, if only things were that simple...

It's not a matter of good and evil, we have knowledge. Knowledge in itself isn't good or evil, but what we choose to do with it certainly can make it good or evil.

[Feuer Frei!]

So then, a tribute song will shortly be released by Elton John, called:
"Sandals in the bin"

[Armistead]

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[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Jamoz

I'm not an anarchist, i'm atheist. Yes it was right thing to do, but in the end it will not accomplish anything. Cycle of revenge will continue on and on

What he did? killed few thousand americans, and how many civilians have died in iraq etc... because of american army? TENS OF THOUSANDS! and who remembers them? There is no good and evil just kill, kill, kill!! Over and over again.

Wait,hold on now,Bin Laden was and will be an icon for all the terrorist groups that are, or call it the "cells" that are built up and out attacks around the world.Regarding what happened with Iraq, one can not blame neither the U.S. Army over what went on, or going on about it to be rhetorical really, now it's been well documented since long back on the withstand stress the country has suffered and which includes the days before Saddams time,and it is not about killing, in this case it was really a tactical move that has advantages and disadvantages like everything when it comes to what to do, and now they have succeeded in the primary, which is important, but the mix not enter the second piece of this, it has its own ongoing story, certainly not too distant but at the moment is not relevant in this context, let us distinguish it .. and see a world without B laden, and future triumphs of that is important.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

I'm sure you guys get my meaning.

Killing in the name of religion... ANY RELIGION... (and/or the idea of an athiest killing an individual because he or she chooses a religion) is in my opinion evil. To me the definitions of "crime" and "evil" are basically interchangeable.

What OBL did was wrong, was a crime, and and an act of the the darkest, most heinous evil.

However you want to cut it, I think most of us are on the same page. Knowing the difference between right and wrong isn't enough by itself.

Yes the killing will continue without an end in sight, because the concept of not opposing crimes (or evil acts... however you choose to label them) suggests anarchy as a solution.

The only solution (in my humble opinion) is to give up on the idea that hate will disolve within our lifetimes... and to recognize that freedom will never be free.

Eternal vigilance is a constant price that free peoples everywhere must pay to guard against crimes... and evil. At times, to ensure that consequences remain, we must go into harm's way to 'discourage' evil and criminal acts.

...and for anyone who doesn't believe that evil exists, you should sign up for a ride-out or two with your local emergency services. Maybe that blindfold will finally fall off.

[mookiemookie]

As a godless whiny liberal pansy, even I will admit that this whole idea that "oh every death is a tragedy, can't we all just get along" is crap.

There are some deaths that are very well deserved and make the world a better place. OBL was one of those.

[Kpt. Lehmann]

I'm sure you guys get my meaning.

Killing in the name of religion... ANY RELIGION... (and/or the idea of an athiest killing an individual because he or she chooses a religion) is in my opinion evil. To me the definitions of "crime" and "evil" are basically interchangeable.

What OBL did was wrong, was a crime, and and an act of the the darkest, most heinous evil.

However you want to cut it, I think most of us are on the same page. Knowing the difference between right and wrong isn't enough by itself.

Yes the killing will continue without an end in sight, because the concept of not opposing crimes (or evil acts... however you choose to label them) suggests anarchy as a solution.

The only solution (in my humble opinion) is to give up on the idea that hate will disolve within our lifetimes... and to recognize that freedom will never be free.

Eternal vigilance is a constant price that free peoples everywhere must pay to guard against crimes... and evil. At times, to ensure that consequences remain, we must go into harm's way to 'discourage' evil and criminal acts.

...and for anyone who doesn't believe that evil exists, you should sign up for a ride-out or two with your local emergency services. Maybe that blindfold will finally fall off.

[Pisces]

Originally Posted by Armistead

The news just said Osama was buried at sea, not sure why and I have my doubts... Seems a lil early.

If so, guess fish gotta eat same as worms... Either way, fish shiat is as good as worm shiat...

Originally Posted by Vendor

Pisces is certainly blessed by the Al-Qaeda or any other religious sect pro ... It's best to strike while the iron is hot..

I couldn't care less to be honest.

Some part of me feels he should have been on trial for what he did.

Another part of me is sad he won't get the chance to enjoy the 'room service' at Guantanamo Bay.

But both parts of me don't want to see him becomming a martyr because of it.

So for once, both of these fishes agree and are happy and with the Status Quo.

Salute to the forces involved!

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Armistead

The news just said Osama was buried at sea, not sure why and I have my doubts... Seems a lil early.

If so, guess fish gotta eat same as worms... Either way, fish shiat is as good as worm shiat...

Kind of hard to visit a grave of a martyr when buried at sea.

[AVGWarhawk]

Some part of me feels he should have been on trial for what he did.

He was. The verdict was quick as I hear.

[Skybird]

I wonder about one thing. What credible authority that has no declared self-interest in the issue, has confirmed the identity of the dead body that was sunk at sea? Was it really Bin Laden who got killed in the raid? On the picture, nobody of us here would be able to identify, to recognise him - I did not. To me, that dead face is just the face of any dead man. Also, there are several doubles of Bin Laden - this we know for sure.

Don'T want to spread any conspiracy theories here - but I must conclude that the US has failed in delivering real evidence beyond doubt for Bin Laden'S killing so far. Just a claim, and that kind of picture on which you cannot clearly recoignise him, is not good enough. That they buried him at sea so fast, is suspicious. That they did it because they respected their worst enemie'S ideological convictions, is unreliable, considering the way Saddam was paraded and Guantanamo is being run.

A man got shot at it is claimed that it was Bin Laden. That is the status of knowledge so far. Sorry to somewhat spoil the party.

It is a welcomed success story for crisis-plagued Obama. Which may be coincidence. Or a suspiciuous detail in iself, too.

Henryk Broder has released a satire about it, saying much the same like I just did. But he meant it as a joke. I do not. I am indeed uncertain on whether or not to believe the story told so far.

No fight intended. If someopne has a link to undoubtable evidence, I would welcome it and would indeed appreciate to be shown wrong in my uncertainty. For I certainly do not hope that Bin Laden ever escapes, forever.

Congrats to the US Armed Forces, if nothing else it demonstrates that these crimnals can be caught and killed, eventually. No doubt others are waiting in the wings to replace OBL but perhaps they will have a little less trust in their followers and be a little more paranoid. I guess his god's protection couldn't stop a bullet after all.

I had thought him already dead, a made-to-order boogie man like the novel nineteen eighty-four's Emanual Goldstein or Keyser Soze from The Usual Suspects. Glad to be mistaken and that he's now shark bait.

Too bad that the partisan politics in the USA will probably sully the moment, already the anti Obama lobby is wieghing in to deny the Commander and Chief any credit although you know they would have been lined up to pile on the blame should anything have gone wrong. The hipocracy of the extremists on both ends of the political spectrum will in all likelyhood try and cast a shadow on this small military but huge morale success.

Wonder if Donald Trump will demand publication of the death certificate?

[AVGWarhawk]

I wonder about one thing. What credible authority that has no declared self-interest in the issue, has confirmed the identity of the dead body that was sunk at sea? Was it really Bin Laden who got killed in the raid? On the picture, nobody of us here would be able to identify, to recognise him - I did not. To me, that dead face is just the face of any dead man. Also, there are several doubles of Bin Laden - this we know for sure.

To what end and or use would it be to make such a story? We were always told if OBL was killed there would be consequences. I don't think we just wanted to 'try it out and see.'

I understand the DNA was tested.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

I'm sure you guys get my meaning.

Killing in the name of religion... ANY RELIGION... (and/or the idea of an athiest killing an individual because he or she chooses a religion) is in my opinion evil. To me the definitions of "crime" and "evil" are basically interchangeable.

What OBL did was wrong, was a crime, and and an act of the the darkest, most heinous evil.

However you want to cut it, I think most of us are on the same page. Knowing the difference between right and wrong isn't enough by itself.

Yes the killing will continue without an end in sight, because the concept of not opposing crimes (or evil acts... however you choose to label them) suggests anarchy as a solution.

The only solution (in my humble opinion) is to give up on the idea that hate will disolve within our lifetimes... and to recognize that freedom will never be free.

Eternal vigilance is a constant price that free peoples everywhere must pay to guard against crimes... and evil. At times, to ensure that consequences remain, we must go into harm's way to 'discourage' evil and criminal acts.

...and for anyone who doesn't believe that evil exists, you should sign up for a ride-out or two with your local emergency services. Maybe that blindfold will finally fall off.

I agree, children are taught right from wrong. Doing wrong is rather pure for Osama, he's murdered just as many muslims. It was be rather pointless to say, "Osama shot for doing wrong" be the same as saying it was wrong of Hitler for killing 6 million Jews.

Most cultures say good or evil and right or wrong. They portray different meanings. Wrong implies a mistake was made, evil implies brutality.

Osama wasn't just wrong, he was evil.