Shogun 2: Total war! - Page 7

Arclight · 02-11-11, 05:37 PM

Same, got burned on Empire, skipped Napoleon. Don't think it's nescesarily a matter of age.

Takeda Shingen · 02-11-11, 06:38 PM

Yeah, I'm going to wait and see as well. The original Shogun is a gaming classic, so the sequel has a lot to live up to.

CCIP · 02-11-11, 08:04 PM

I personally don't particularly mind era preferences - I can enjoy a game set in any period, provided the game itself is a good historical and mechanical representation.

Shogun is definitely a classic - a flawed classic to be sure, and I don't think the AI or gameplay-vs-realism design decisions there are worth idolizing by any means, but... it got things mostly right, and it was a bloody good game. For me personally, the original M:TW was a high point in the series, although R:TW with mods far outshines it. It's definitely been a bit downhill since then...

Unless a big outpouring of praise comes from the community about this title in the next little while, I will definitely be waiting a while before picking it up.

TteFAboB · 02-12-11, 07:22 PM

I shall wait as well!

...

Because I can't fit a better CPU in this MOBO (LGA775)...

If only Win-DRM-dows didn't require re-installation after a MOBO upgrade... but I'm not re-installing everything because of one game. I'll wait until there's two, or three, or maybe five good games requiring a better CPU. And then I'll build a new PC from scratch, because I'm still not re-installing stuff on this one! Too much stuff, too much hassle. This silicon dude is destined to remain where it is for the foreseeable future. And he'll be there for me, always, even though he didn't made into Toystory 3.

Really, I can upgrade anything: monitor, add an HDD, swap the RAM, play juggling with video cards, change the CD/DVD/DoomsdayLaser drives, add USB, remove USB, but to change a motherboard? OOOOOOOOOOOhhh nooooo, sir, no, no, no, no, no, don't even go there: motherboard is TABOOOOOO! YOU SHALL NOT TOUCH A MOTHERBOARD! TREAT YOUR MOTHER RIGHT! !

Meanwhile, back to Minecraft, men, back to Dwarf Fortress, and let's get those cities in motion! And spam the forum!

On topic: it seems Shogun 2 might be the best of the newer Total War games, but from the Rock, Paper, Shotgun hands-on it appears sieges still suck and feel unnatural and finnicky. Empire destroyed sieges, and it seems Creative Assembly hasn't yet recovered.

Sieges were best in R:TW and M2:TW. They weren't excellent by any means, but it worked.

Falkirion · 02-15-11, 05:32 PM

And in some good news. There's a demo out Feb 22 before its March 15 release.
http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/02/try...efore-you-buy/

stabiz · 02-15-11, 06:11 PM

Good news indeed! Now I can base my opinion on my own massive brain.

Spike88 · 02-18-11, 01:40 AM

I don't like the look of the Siege battles. Apparently troops can scale the walls at any point, so it seems that defending a certain area is pointless, and looks like the attacks will always win. Although I'll have to be sure and try it out myself first.

In another note, I'm clearing room on my HDD for NTW, since I didn't ever really play it(not as much as ETW).

I'm also installing RTW because I just saw "The Eagle" (great movie, if I say so myself) and it's put me in the mood to lead some legionnaires.

Crécy · 02-18-11, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike88

I'm also installing RTW because I just saw "The Eagle" (great movie, if I say so myself) and it's put me in the mood to lead some legionnaires.

If you desire to lead legionnaires you definitely should get Roma Surrectum 2

Shogun demo? Excellent

Arclight · 02-18-11, 06:20 AM

They released a trailer showcasing the MP options: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011...ons-footaging/

elanaiba · 02-22-11, 04:58 AM

Does anyone know if there's any changes to how unit detection / LOS works in battles?

I've always been disappointed that units are always visible to the enemy (player or AI) as long as they are moving, no matter what obstacles (buildings, hills, etc) should hide them.

Arclight · 02-22-11, 06:12 AM

I don't know, but there's a demo out later today, so you can see for yourself.

Crécy · 02-22-11, 06:36 AM

5pm GMT to be exact.

Spike88 · 02-22-11, 03:33 PM

My demo just completed downloading. Time to test her out.

stabiz · 02-22-11, 04:11 PM

My review: meh.

Spike88 · 02-22-11, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stabiz

My review: meh.

Care to elaborate?

02-11-11, 05:37 PM	#91
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Same, got burned on Empire, skipped Napoleon. Don't think it's nescesarily a matter of age. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

02-11-11, 08:04 PM	#93
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I personally don't particularly mind era preferences - I can enjoy a game set in any period, provided the game itself is a good historical and mechanical representation. Shogun is definitely a classic - a flawed classic to be sure, and I don't think the AI or gameplay-vs-realism design decisions there are worth idolizing by any means, but... it got things mostly right, and it was a bloody good game. For me personally, the original M:TW was a high point in the series, although R:TW with mods far outshines it. It's definitely been a bit downhill since then... Unless a big outpouring of praise comes from the community about this title in the next little while, I will definitely be waiting a while before picking it up. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

02-12-11, 07:22 PM	#94
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I shall wait as well! ... Because I can't fit a better CPU in this MOBO (LGA775)... If only Win-DRM-dows didn't require re-installation after a MOBO upgrade... but I'm not re-installing everything because of one game. I'll wait until there's two, or three, or maybe five good games requiring a better CPU. And then I'll build a new PC from scratch, because I'm still not re-installing stuff on this one! Too much stuff, too much hassle. This silicon dude is destined to remain where it is for the foreseeable future. And he'll be there for me, always, even though he didn't made into Toystory 3. Really, I can upgrade anything: monitor, add an HDD, swap the RAM, play juggling with video cards, change the CD/DVD/DoomsdayLaser drives, add USB, remove USB, but to change a motherboard? OOOOOOOOOOOhhh nooooo, sir, no, no, no, no, no, don't even go there: motherboard is TABOOOOOO! YOU SHALL NOT TOUCH A MOTHERBOARD! TREAT YOUR MOTHER RIGHT! ! Meanwhile, back to Minecraft, men, back to Dwarf Fortress, and let's get those cities in motion! And spam the forum! On topic: it seems Shogun 2 might be the best of the newer Total War games, but from the Rock, Paper, Shotgun hands-on it appears sieges still suck and feel unnatural and finnicky. Empire destroyed sieges, and it seems Creative Assembly hasn't yet recovered. Sieges were best in R:TW and M2:TW. They weren't excellent by any means, but it worked. __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

02-15-11, 06:11 PM	#96
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Good news indeed! Now I can base my opinion on my own massive brain. __________________

02-18-11, 01:40 AM	#97
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	I don't like the look of the Siege battles. Apparently troops can scale the walls at any point, so it seems that defending a certain area is pointless, and looks like the attacks will always win. Although I'll have to be sure and try it out myself first. In another note, I'm clearing room on my HDD for NTW, since I didn't ever really play it(not as much as ETW). I'm also installing RTW because I just saw "The Eagle" (great movie, if I say so myself) and it's put me in the mood to lead some legionnaires. __________________

02-11-11, 06:38 PM	#92
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I'm going to wait and see as well. The original Shogun is a gaming classic, so the sequel has a lot to live up to.

02-15-11, 05:32 PM	#95
Falkirion Ace of the Deep Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Melbourne, AUS Posts: 1,043 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	And in some good news. There's a demo out Feb 22 before its March 15 release. http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/02/try...efore-you-buy/

02-18-11, 06:20 AM	#99
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	They released a trailer showcasing the MP options: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011...ons-footaging/ __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

02-22-11, 04:58 AM	#100
elanaiba Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,058 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 3	Does anyone know if there's any changes to how unit detection / LOS works in battles? I've always been disappointed that units are always visible to the enemy (player or AI) as long as they are moving, no matter what obstacles (buildings, hills, etc) should hide them. __________________ With strength I burn...

02-22-11, 06:12 AM	#101
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	I don't know, but there's a demo out later today, so you can see for yourself. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

02-22-11, 06:36 AM	#102
Crécy Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Dark forest Posts: 793 Downloads: 316 Uploads: 0	5pm GMT to be exact. __________________ “Every generation laughs at the old fashions, but follows religiously the new.” -Henry David Thoreau

02-22-11, 03:33 PM	#103
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	My demo just completed downloading. Time to test her out. __________________

02-22-11, 04:11 PM	#104
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	My review: meh. __________________