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Old 04-02-10, 07:31 PM   #91
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Im surprised the ROK doesnt have underwater surveillance systems integrated with other surveillence installed in this area? They seem ideal and called for there.
Its offcourse possible they have and this is what led to the incident in the first place.
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Old 04-02-10, 07:42 PM   #92
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Im surprised the ROK doesnt have underwater surveillance systems integrated with other surveillence installed in this area? They seem ideal and called for there.
Its offcourse possible they have and this is what led to the incident in the first place.
Might be worried that the DPRK would just destroy them in the first seconds of a war. A Il-28 could just drop a depth bomb on it or a diver could go out and slap a limpet mine on it and boom- gone. In peace time some DPRK trawler might snag it and give them a sonar system decades more advanced than what they got already. The ROK operates P-3s and S-2s which have tremendous range which in the small area the ROKN operates in equals huge loiter time that should give them sufficient motoring capability in the Yellow Sea. Plus the ROKN operates a number of submarines for monitoring the DPRK.
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Old 04-02-10, 08:31 PM   #93
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Hehe those look familiar Castout. But don't forget my lattest work for the Suspect Line up The Sang O (Shark) class Midget Submarine.

Oh I forgot to mention that they are from the LWAMI modders.
Forgive me for failing to mention you. Great model btw.

We need that spherical wire frame model for unknown to be added to the suspect line up
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Old 04-02-10, 09:09 PM   #94
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Old 04-12-10, 12:21 PM   #95
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Some pictures of the Cheonan as ROK teams move a part of her closer to the shore today:





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Old 04-16-10, 06:51 AM   #96
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Salvage team members and rescue workers put a part of a sunken naval vessel on a barge after they lifted it with a giant crane, off Baengnyeongdo island near the maritime border with North Korea, northwest of Seoul April 15, 2010. South Korea's military began lifting on Thursday the stern of the naval ship in order to determine what caused a blast that sank it last month near a contested border with the North. The South's defence minister said this month that the 1,200-tonne Cheonan may have been hit by a North Korean torpedo, stoking concerns that the incident could start a conflict.



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Officers check the stern of a sunken naval ship after salvage team members and rescue workers put a part of the vessel on a barge with a giant crane, off Baengnyeongdo island near the maritime border with North Korea, northwest of Seoul April 15, 2010.
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Old 04-16-10, 08:23 AM   #97
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Great pics...keep em coming

Shouldn't belong now before we get a clearer indication of the cause
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Whats with the netting over the bow and that 'screen wall'.

Looks like their trying to conceal something.
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Whats with the netting over the bow and that 'screen wall'.

Looks like their trying to conceal something.
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Whats with the netting over the bow and that 'screen wall'.

Looks like their trying to conceal something.
Well we can see that it didnt work, clearly an external force caused that damage.
North Korea is really one sad bunch of gangsters.

Picture of the crew that died onboard.

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Looks like the detonation occurred amidships and not at the stern. Like someone put a fish right dead center.
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Old 04-16-10, 12:25 PM   #102
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With the screening in place, there is no way to get a solid look at what happened to her. Remember your only getting one angle - you cant see if the initial force was in -> out or out <- in. Breaking in half twists the devil out of the break area - so there is no telling if what you see is due to the break or the explosion.

Again - don't jump to conclusions.

The screen is there for the purpose of making it impossible for a camera at distance to make out enough detail to know for sure.
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Old 04-16-10, 12:39 PM   #103
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I couldn´t see the damage, even in this picture.



I think the damage in the bow was probably caused when the ship hit the bottom. The other damage in the hull was maybe caused by pressure differences.

Also, a heavyweight torpedo could broke the little ship in two parts. The Koreans use the russian / soviet 53-65 21in torpedo. More than enough to make the corvette airborne. Where is that damage?
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Marcantilan - uhm... .thats not the bow they have covered -thats only the aft part of the ship - the forward part is apparently still under water. The Ship did break in half. If you look at the close up - the last picture - you can see part of a gun mounting on the deck - sloping to the side where the deck structure is gone.

Your only seeing about half the ship there - they don't make modern warships that short.
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With the screening in place, there is no way to get a solid look at what happened to her. Remember your only getting one angle - you cant see if the initial force was in -> out or out <- in. Breaking in half twists the devil out of the break area - so there is no telling if what you see is due to the break or the explosion.

Again - don't jump to conclusions.

The screen is there for the purpose of making it impossible for a camera at distance to make out enough detail to know for sure.
Well look at the deck, there is more deck left than keel. Either the explosion was internal and down or external and up. Most explosions would go up since the surrounding water would focus the blast that way.

Reminds me of the damage to the Sam Roberts where the ship was held together by the deck after a mine blast to her keel.

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I couldn´t see the damage, even in this picture.



I think the damage in the bow was probably caused when the ship hit the bottom. The other damage in the hull was maybe caused by pressure differences.
What bow? do you mean the front of the wreck pictured? That is the center of the ship just aft of the funnel.
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