NEWS regarding 1.3

[tater]

Originally Posted by Stew U-582

It looks like sales are down and they cant justify another patch.

But I cant understand how they are going to increase sales with a product that doesnt work properly.

please fix the radar and manual speed issues

Yeah, people read that they aren't going to fix glaring, showstopping bugs, and then decide not to buy the product, what a surprise.

The problem, IMO, is that they think of each title in a vacuum, not the branding of "Ubi Soft." If the ubi brand becomes "mud" it won't matter what they put out, everyone will wait to buy until a title is demonstrably finished.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

I don't think we should be saying the modders will fix it when they don't have or are given the right tools to fix it. Why should are modders be useing up their unpaid time to fix something when they can be modding ?


To say are modders will fix it is a copout. You paid for a game don't
beg... Demand they fix it.

I do not expect modders to fix it. Modders make it better! God bless'em! Right now I only use two texture mods for the interface and the less radio traffic mod for the clipboard. I agree it is a copout to expect the modders to fix it even with the tools to do so. But for lack of a better word, begging on a poll seems to be the only thought that fits the bill. I have voted on the poll. I have written to UBI concerning this. Not much else I can do but wait it out.

As Steamwake would put 'shrugs'

[StandingCow]

Gamers having to fight for a patch to fix a product that should have worked out of the box?

Wow... this isn't only sad news for subsimmers, its sad for all games that the companies just do not respect us at all...

[Cap'n Crabs]

And so it comes to this.

I've enjoyed this game, but, biting my tongue on issues, EXPECTING them to do the right thing in getting the issues fixed. I've lived with the random CTD and other broken things in this game, but now, having to "tell" UBI that we need a patch !?!?

[/IMG]

Hats off to the modders. I certainly would not be enjoying the game in it's stock form. They've really made it bearable & playable.

*edit* This is not aimed at the developer team.

[MONOLITH]

Unbelievable.


How much of an insult is this?

"Here's your sub with Radar....Wait....radar doesn't work."

"Here's the chronometer to do targeting... Oh wait..that doesn't work either."

The manual says I can make notes on my map. Yeah...If I use a sharpie on my monitor.


WTF.



Well, Let's just remember one thing through all of this fellas.... The Romanian Dev team are the ones that gave us all the great things in SH4. It's UBISOFT that stopped them from giving us the rest.

So remember to give credit where it goes, and blame where it goes.

But other than that, yeah, this is total BS.

[WernerSobe]

do not expect moders to fix the game. Moding is limited. You can mod many new things but you can hardly fix major game bugs. In some cases you can work around bugs by using tricks but you cant fix the basics.

[Jonin]

I won't buy another sub sim from UBI if they abandon this game like they did SH3. It was hard to convince myself to give them another shot after they quit patching SH3.

[Cap'n Crabs]

I agree Monolith, I believe in my heart that the Dev team has their heart in it also.
And I believe they are not satisfied with SH4's current state.
I know if I sweated months & months on something as complex as this game, it would bother me, and I would want to make people happy.

I've seen the one Dev post here and I'm sure he does care.
Just hope UBI lets them fix the outstanding issues.

[MONOLITH]

Originally Posted by Cap'n Crabs

I've seen the one Dev post here and I'm sure he does care.
.

Elanaiba belongs to another website that I moderate at. I feel very sympathetic towards their situation.

Devs are at the mercy of their publisher. Few have the financial ability to stand on their own.


EDIT: What we as a community should do, is send our next $49 directly to the devs, to give us a downloadable game, and bypass UBI all together. And it could be done. Do you hear me Subsim? Do you hear me Romania? That should be our next petition.

[Cap'n Crabs]

I was thinking of "Maeren", not sure of the spelling.

Didn't know of the one you mentioned.
Hat's off to those guys.

Originally Posted by ScottD

Who cares? Its pointless if you really think about it...if a company makes a halfass product and doesn't stand behind it, people aren't going to buy it anyways...Your damned if you do damned if you don't...I rather fight fire with fire, instead of getting taken by a product thats done halfass...far too many software companies release crap these days and there no punshinment for that besides if they go out of business..which doesnt seem likely for a company like Ubi...

The least they can do is open up the code for moders to fix the problems with it, but no they'll just milk it for what its worth using the same crappy code.

I totally agree with ScottD. What the hell does everyone expect regarding Ubisoft? Why is anyone here even surprised they are dropping SH4 support after only 2 patches? Ubisoft doesn't exactly have a good track record about releasing finished products or even fixing them correctly later. We are paying beta testers, or should I say paying 'suckers'. They got our money, now they are running with it... leaving us with a half-finished product (as usual). I also think this is the end of the SH series. Good riddens. Ubisoft can kiss my ***.

[FIREWALL]

General Motors had two class action lawsuits against them ... They Settled.

Even they weren't so big they could blow consumers off.

[NEON DEON]

Originally Posted by nvdrifter

I totally agree with ScottD. What the hell does everyone expect regarding Ubisoft? Why is anyone here even surprised they are dropping SH4 support after only 2 patches? Ubisoft doesn't exactly have a good track record about releasing finished products or even fixing them correctly later. We are paying beta testers, or should I say paying 'suckers'. They got our money, now they are running with it... leaving us with a half-finished product (as usual). I also think this is the end of the SH series. Good riddens. Ubisoft can kiss my ***.

Ah someone as diplomatic as me.

[Skyhawk]

nvdrifter,

I agree with you completely. Those who are frustrated with this product have only themselves to blame given the track record.

What did we expect?

And if a self-righteous, condescending, antagonistic remark is made to you by a moderator on a UBI forum, be certain you don't respond in kind, it will earn you,

and get this . . .

a 7 day suspended account for antagonistic rhetoric! :rotfl:

The moderators can be sarcastic, etc., because they are only human, and they are volunteers, and they have feelings too, but the members cannot. A truly rotten double standard but then again so appropriate all things considered. But that's ok, Of my own free will, I hereby suspend my UBI account for life, LOL!! They showed me didn't they? ROFL!!

I am done with this company. Goodbye UBI and it's fanboys, not another penny from me . . . plead/beg for a CHANCE to get something close to what I paid for? NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

No worries, I won't go away mad, I'll just go away.

[harzfeld]

I have been lurking on this forum once in awhile since I got SH3 to see if any news on further patches for it, but never had SH4 myself, I came kinda chuckle while reading Ubisoft’s response regarding to the next patches for SH4. My opinions of today gaming industries is so low, therefore that news doesn’t surprise me at all. Last straw I had with Ubisoft that they didn’t provided 1.5 patches for SH3 that fixes further bugs and to remove starforce to be able to play without it. I don’t understand why the customers ought to kiss the developers’ butt no matter how incomplete their works were. What do you get out of it by kissing their butt after forking 50 bucks over to them? Nothing. They are not going give back the money to anyone who brought this game. I wonder what happen to the rule #1 Customer is always right, #2 if a customer is wrong, see rule #1. If I had brought SH4, I probably would attempt to initiate something to cause UBI’s recalls on this product to get my money back as well for everyone too, even if UBI still wins, then make sure it a pyrrhic victory. At least my experiences with prior games from few years ago had taught me valuable lessons by not buying SH4 or any more games which really did save my money and energy big time. Just venting a 2 energy cent rant base on SH3, that’s all I can squander.