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Old 04-03-07, 04:45 AM   #91
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So what have you done to try to help make the situation better?

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Yeah...its a funny situation.

If the devs contacted any of you most would grap any chance to betatest.

So I see 2 scenarios:

1) The current release date
We all got the game. We are all able to point out errors.

2) Later release date
A select bunch bot were privledged to test.

So which would you prefer?
Get it now and have voice in the discussion of improvements or waiting a few months more while others had the fun of trying out the game??

I know what I would say if the devs called me and said..."We know you from Subsim, would like to test our game. You would have to do it for free of course..."

We can all argue from here till the cows come home about the ethics in releasing a game with errors and paying full price for it, but that aside....

I think most of the trouble we see now, is purely based in peoples expectations being different from what they got.
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Old 04-03-07, 05:46 AM   #92
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Okay,
Spearfish got a welcome from the first few people to reply - entirely in keeping with seeing somebody new pop up. He apologised for maybe posting in the wrong place etc in his opener. Several posts later he was flamed by the mod which prompted some further 'me too' animosity. Whilst I can understand the emotions involved it was still pretty harsh in my view, and I'm surprised to see the flaming started by a mod - last I heard they were supposed to help stop that sort of thing.

We've basically got two extreme views on this, which appear to be incompatible - group 1 think the game is bug ridden, and find the number of CTD's unacceptable in a commercial release, group 2 are determined to put a brave face on it and presumably haven't had the same CTDs to deal with.

For my part (gp 1) I've posted my bugs on Bugzilla, and for every whine (primarily on UBI's site) I've added to an existing thread I've spent similar amounts of time pointing struggling players to fix threads and mods on here that provide a workround.

There'll be new buyers popping up now and then, so guys like Spearfish are going to appear at times, if we're nice to them they might just turn into helpful souls along the way... could be a new guy has just the info you want one day.
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Old 04-03-07, 05:50 AM   #93
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Sorry you got gangbanged Spearfish. The mods should have done a better job instead of leading the witch hunt.
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Old 04-03-07, 06:08 AM   #94
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And new members to the site could spend a little time checking things out and reading the FAQ before posting yet another "I am disappointed" thread.

The name of this site is "Subsim.com", not "IwanttocomplainaboutaSubsim.com".

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Old 04-03-07, 06:34 AM   #95
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Yep, I agree. Still shamefull reactions from the top on down.
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Old 04-03-07, 06:45 AM   #96
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Let's give this thread some time to cool,
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