SH4 Specs... What Upgrades Do I Need??? - Page 7

TDK1044 · 02-21-07, 09:01 AM

I think a core 2 duo cpu is a very smart move for SH4. Even a high end P4 processor will struggle a little ( in the most demanding battle scenarios) running with a good video card and 2 GIGs of RAM.

stabiz · 02-21-07, 09:05 AM

I dont know what prices are in the rest of the world, but I just bought a 6600 core 2 duo for about 330 euro.

stabiz · 02-21-07, 10:36 AM

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Q: TheRealPotoroo: Will SH4 be multithreaded?
A: There are separate threads for minor tasks in the game, so there will be SOME improvement in running a multiprocessor machine.

Not that important, then. But I`ll take any improvement I can get.

fred8615 · 02-21-07, 07:08 PM

Somebody posted that they had a RADON X300 SE Series Graphics Card, and someone else said SH4 will not work at all with that card. Is that really true? Because I have the same card, and if it is true, I'm going to have to cancel my pre-order. I simply can't afford both the game and a new video card too.

flintlock · 02-21-07, 10:46 PM

fred8615,

You're definitely going to need a new video card if you want to run SH4.

There are some decent deals to be had. Post your system specs and we'll see if we can suggest an inexpensive but feasible solution for you.

Cheers,
flintlock

fred8615 · 02-21-07, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by flintlock

fred8615,

You're definitely going to need a new video card if you want to run SH4.

There are some decent deals to be had. Post your system specs and we'll see if we can suggest an inexpensive but feasible solution for you.

Dell Dimension 8400
2 Gigs RAM
Intel Pentium 4 3.0Ghz processor, with hyper-threading.
SoundMAX Intergrated Digital Audio card
128 MB ATI RADON X300 SE Series PCI-Express Graphics Card

flintlock · 02-21-07, 11:19 PM

Your system overall is pretty decent, so that's good news!

If you're looking to spend the least amount of money while you can still enjoy SH4, I'd recommend you consider these:

NVIDIA 7600 GS (least expensive, wouldn't consider anything below, but this is really stretching things)
NVIDIA 7600 GT or Radeon X1650 XT (for a few dollars more, slightly better performance but still not ideal)

If you can afford it, I'd suggest you consider a Radeon X1950 Pro or an NVIDIA 7900 GS. I believe either of these two cards should give you the best cost/performance ratio for running SH4 reasonably well.

Food for thought.

fred8615 · 02-21-07, 11:55 PM

Thanks anyway, but the prices, plus the game, are just out of my reach.
At least I have Pacific Aces.

Ark · 02-22-07, 02:52 AM

Every year and a half or so I do a complete upgrade of my system. This upgrade happened to fall right before SHIV's release.

Here's the system I am building (mostly for SHIV):

Core 2 Duo E6600
Intel Bad Axe 2 mobo
2GB Corsair Ballistix PC8000
Evga 8800GTX
Silverstone 1KW PSU
Sound Blaster Fatal1ty X-FI XtremeGamer

CPU is watercooled with an Apogee GT waterblock. Rad is a Swiftech MCR-220QP. Res is an EK-200. Pump is a Laing DDC-2 (18W) with Petra Top. Tubing is going to be either 7/16ID x 11/16OD Tygon or 1/2ID x 3/4OD Tygon. I decided not to watercool the NB and Videocard for right now (I don't like to OC my videocards). The NB has a fairly large heatsink on it by default, so I'm going to see how that works out for now. If the NB ends up needing some extra cooling, I have a DangerDen Maze 4 waterblock on standby just in case. Fluid is distilled water + Pentosin G11 + a few drops of PT Nuke.

I figure, what good is a computer designed for a submarine simulation in the Pacific, if it doesn't have blue water running through it. So that is what I am doing. lol

CCIP · 02-22-07, 04:03 AM

I have a fairly good setup (a dual-core processor, 2 gigs of RAM), but I think a slight achilles heel in my case will be my video card - a 128mb GeForce 6800OC. It's perhaps the best as far as you can get with 128mb cards, but still a 128mb. I know SHIV will run, but I'm curious how it'll do with the settings. My sense is that I probably won't be able to run it on full detail until upgrading - and an upgrade wouldn't make sense now; I plan to get a PCI-E system within a year and buying a new AGP card just wouldn't make sense now (to me being on a budget, anyway).

Ah well? :hmm:

The General · 02-22-07, 08:38 AM

If you can currently run SH3 with 100% particles and high quality textures, you'll be able to run SH4, albeit in a lesser configuration. You'll need at least 512MB of DDR2 RAM on your video card to get the full benefit though. Survival of the fittest, that's life.

Snakeeyes · 02-22-07, 03:42 PM

How do you think I would do with a Pentium 2.6 and a new GeForce 7800GS?

flyingdane · 02-22-07, 07:45 PM

Ok Well here it is again my spec, P4 3.2gig with HT,250gig HDD, 2gig ram (pc4200@533mhz, x850gt 256mb video card.
I know this will work because I can run Sh3 GWX with 16kl visability and running 6xAA-8xAF and with very little slowdownds mainly in port then it's great...

Ark · 02-22-07, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by flyingdane

Ok Well here it is again my spec, P4 3.2gig with HT,250gig HDD, 2gig ram (pc4200@533mhz, x850gt 256mb video card.
I know this will work because I can run Sh3 GWX with 16kl visability and running 6xAA-8xAF and with very little slowdownds mainly in port then it's great...

How something runs with SH3 and GWX, I imagine, is quite a ways off from SHIV. SH3 with GWX looks great, don't get me wrong....but add in fog, god rays, particle effects, higher-poly subs/ships/aircraft, etc.. etc.. and you more than likely really can't compare the two with regards to performance (similar engine or not). I'm sure it will stiill run pretty well for you though, I just wouldn't count on maxing out the in-game settings.

BUT, I must admit...these SH Dev.s are darn good at making their games look good and run well.

flyingdane · 02-23-07, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Ark

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Originally Posted by flyingdane

Ok Well here it is again my spec, P4 3.2gig with HT,250gig HDD, 2gig ram (pc4200@533mhz, x850gt 256mb video card.
I know this will work because I can run Sh3 GWX with 16kl visability and running 6xAA-8xAF and with very little slowdownds mainly in port then it's great...

How something runs with SH3 and GWX, I imagine, is quite a ways off from SHIV. SH3 with GWX looks great, don't get me wrong....but add in fog, god rays, particle effects, higher-poly subs/ships/aircraft, etc.. etc.. and you more than likely really can't compare the two with regards to performance.

God Rays? :rotfl: ......Ooops

02-21-07, 09:05 AM	#92
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I dont know what prices are in the rest of the world, but I just bought a 6600 core 2 duo for about 330 euro. __________________

02-21-07, 07:08 PM	#94
fred8615 Saint of the seas Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sorrento, Louisiana Posts: 1,320 Downloads: 265 Uploads: 127	Somebody posted that they had a RADON X300 SE Series Graphics Card, and someone else said SH4 will not work at all with that card. Is that really true? Because I have the same card, and if it is true, I'm going to have to cancel my pre-order. I simply can't afford both the game and a new video card too. __________________ Frederick J. Barnett Radio Stations & Music Captain's Desk Photos FJB Camera Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start Office links, Info Boxes, & 50 cal Crew Rank Fix Sub Class Info Real Subs SH4 Randomizer Sub Images Office Images Sub Pinups & Pics 24 Hour Clocks Office Posters Nav Map Make-Over Add-ons FJB Navigation Maps Office Window Chronographs Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done! Do you think that's easy?! - Gregory Peck, The Guns of Navarone.

02-21-07, 11:19 PM	#97
flintlock Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,177 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Your system overall is pretty decent, so that's good news! If you're looking to spend the least amount of money while you can still enjoy SH4, I'd recommend you consider these: NVIDIA 7600 GS (least expensive, wouldn't consider anything below, but this is really stretching things) NVIDIA 7600 GT or Radeon X1650 XT (for a few dollars more, slightly better performance but still not ideal) If you can afford it, I'd suggest you consider a Radeon X1950 Pro or an NVIDIA 7900 GS. I believe either of these two cards should give you the best cost/performance ratio for running SH4 reasonably well. Food for thought. Last edited by flintlock; 02-21-07 at 11:37 PM.

02-21-07, 11:55 PM	#98
fred8615 Saint of the seas Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Sorrento, Louisiana Posts: 1,320 Downloads: 265 Uploads: 127	Thanks anyway, but the prices, plus the game, are just out of my reach. At least I have Pacific Aces. __________________ Frederick J. Barnett Radio Stations & Music Captain's Desk Photos FJB Camera Pre Pearl Harbor Career Start Office links, Info Boxes, & 50 cal Crew Rank Fix Sub Class Info Real Subs SH4 Randomizer Sub Images Office Images Sub Pinups & Pics 24 Hour Clocks Office Posters Nav Map Make-Over Add-ons FJB Navigation Maps Office Window Chronographs Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done! Do you think that's easy?! - Gregory Peck, The Guns of Navarone.

02-22-07, 02:52 AM	#99
Ark Samurai Navy Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Fresno, CA. Posts: 581 Downloads: 95 Uploads: 0	Every year and a half or so I do a complete upgrade of my system. This upgrade happened to fall right before SHIV's release. Here's the system I am building (mostly for SHIV): Core 2 Duo E6600 Intel Bad Axe 2 mobo 2GB Corsair Ballistix PC8000 Evga 8800GTX Silverstone 1KW PSU Sound Blaster Fatal1ty X-FI XtremeGamer CPU is watercooled with an Apogee GT waterblock. Rad is a Swiftech MCR-220QP. Res is an EK-200. Pump is a Laing DDC-2 (18W) with Petra Top. Tubing is going to be either 7/16ID x 11/16OD Tygon or 1/2ID x 3/4OD Tygon. I decided not to watercool the NB and Videocard for right now (I don't like to OC my videocards). The NB has a fairly large heatsink on it by default, so I'm going to see how that works out for now. If the NB ends up needing some extra cooling, I have a DangerDen Maze 4 waterblock on standby just in case. Fluid is distilled water + Pentosin G11 + a few drops of PT Nuke. I figure, what good is a computer designed for a submarine simulation in the Pacific, if it doesn't have blue water running through it. So that is what I am doing. lol __________________ Ark -------------- Vista 64-bit SP1 Asus P6T Deluxe mobo Core i7 920 @ 3.8ghz 6GB G.Skill DDR3 1600 Evga GTX 285 SSC SB X-FI Fatality 640GB WD "Black" Dell 3007WFP-HC 30" LCD / Acer 23" H233H

02-21-07, 09:01 AM	#91
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I think a core 2 duo cpu is a very smart move for SH4. Even a high end P4 processor will struggle a little ( in the most demanding battle scenarios) running with a good video card and 2 GIGs of RAM.

02-21-07, 10:46 PM	#95
flintlock Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,177 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	fred8615, You're definitely going to need a new video card if you want to run SH4. There are some decent deals to be had. Post your system specs and we'll see if we can suggest an inexpensive but feasible solution for you. Cheers, flintlock

02-22-07, 04:03 AM	#100
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I have a fairly good setup (a dual-core processor, 2 gigs of RAM), but I think a slight achilles heel in my case will be my video card - a 128mb GeForce 6800OC. It's perhaps the best as far as you can get with 128mb cards, but still a 128mb. I know SHIV will run, but I'm curious how it'll do with the settings. My sense is that I probably won't be able to run it on full detail until upgrading - and an upgrade wouldn't make sense now; I plan to get a PCI-E system within a year and buying a new AGP card just wouldn't make sense now (to me being on a budget, anyway). Ah well? :hmm: __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

02-22-07, 08:38 AM	#101
The General The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Mountain Ash, Wales, U.K. Posts: 1,548 Downloads: 179 Uploads: 3	If you can currently run SH3 with 100% particles and high quality textures, you'll be able to run SH4, albeit in a lesser configuration. You'll need at least 512MB of DDR2 RAM on your video card to get the full benefit though. Survival of the fittest, that's life.

02-22-07, 03:42 PM	#102
Snakeeyes Captain Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: trailing 1400 yards behind an Oscar-II with my outer doors open Posts: 488 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	How do you think I would do with a Pentium 2.6 and a new GeForce 7800GS? __________________ -- "There's little room in Tupolev's heart for anyone but Tupolev."

02-22-07, 07:45 PM	#103
flyingdane Weps Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 355 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Ok Well here it is again my spec, P4 3.2gig with HT,250gig HDD, 2gig ram (pc4200@533mhz, x850gt 256mb video card. I know this will work because I can run Sh3 GWX with 16kl visability and running 6xAA-8xAF and with very little slowdownds mainly in port then it's great... __________________ It denos't mtater waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, it's olny iprmoatnt taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelms.Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.