Nvidia tweaks to SH3/SH4

[Faamecanic]

Originally Posted by Rubini

at day light the image is soberb but...what is pissing me of is that the nights in LCD monitor are too dark and (if you just put more bright) the sea texture just isn´t good at night. I´m in the point that I will try to really make another ENV files (for night only) just to have better textures on a LCD pannel. Do you also have this "at night" colors/degrade problems/poor image on your LCD?:hmm:

Just a botton note: we in the GWX team already tried to port SH3 to a wide view (messing with the cameras FOV) but without success.

Rubini...I have the same problem with my LCD (Dell 2001FP I bought like 3 yrs ago). The night is so dark I can barely see my WATCH OFFICER..let alone a ship 500+m in front of me. I have been begging for an alternative night time fix or SH3Commander fix for 2 yrs now...

And to change any settings for night, makes daytime look washed out and terrible.

[Faamecanic]

Originally Posted by Doolittle81

Just a thought: have you tried using just one card and NOT trying to run SH4 in SLI?? I have a single Nvidea 8800GTX 768Mb and have never had a problem with Jaggies or the other problems mentioned.

Yep... noticed the ocean in the distance didnt look good back when I had a single Nvidia 6800.

[prologos]

Hello all!
I have a slight problem. When I am in port and also yesterday when I played a single mission involving a big naval battle my fps drop from 75 to 10-15. If I Alt-tab and then reenter the game the fps go to 25 but again there is a very big difference beetwen 75-25. Do you have any ideas? I tried setting the affinity of SH4 to 1 core but the situation is the same. I also run nHanser with the settings posted by rubini in the first post of this forum.
My rig is:
intel core duo 4400
2GB mushkin RAM interleaved (2x1 GB)
XFX 8800 GTS 320MB
Soundblaster Audigy2 ZS
WD 300 GB HD + Maxtor 80GB HD
I run the game at 1280x1024 at a NEC 19" CRT

[hachiman]

I have a 8600GT and quite a hi spec rig.
But i find the graphics in SH4 seem quite grainy.
It's like the screens dirty(Which it's not!!).

Any ideas why?

Thanx

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by hachiman

I have a 8600GT and quite a hi spec rig.
But i find the graphics in SH4 seem quite grainy.
It's like the screens dirty(Which it's not!!).

Any ideas why?

Thanx

Do you have the Post Process Filtering checked? If so, this creates the grainy effect.

[col_Kurtz]

-If you have any comment or any other tip to enhance the SH3/4 experience when using nVidia hardware please share it with us!

Good Hunting!

Rubini.[/quote]

So... A few words, just a few
My graphic card is: ATI Radeon X1300 - 1550 Pro, 256MB, I heard, that is really bad card, but... I change nVidia (7300 LE - that`s really sh..e card!) and... what a surprise! SH 4... settings highest and patch 1.3, them 1.4 - great, lovely. I`m not sure FPS, but it looks really good, amazing and I really love taht game, for sunshine, sunrise, ocean... and, what more? Well, for ships and battle - of course, magnat for me and I can`t wait for U-boat Expansion pack - it will be great adventure.
So, I don`t know better nVidia, but, I heard about problems with that card, shaders and I think... ATI is bit better for that
I found this link after installation GWX2... Hum. SH4 is fantastic, SH3...:hmm: No comments. Good game, but...

Thanks

[bratwurstdimsum]

Originally Posted by Rubini

(I also posted the same on SH3 general forum because i guess that this is really usefull)

Hi folks,

After some days in tests and with the help of our mates Periscope and mikaelanderlund, I finally finish my concise guide to enhance the image quality in SH3/4 using nHancer and Nvidia cards.
To finish - nHancer best settings for good image quality without any noticeable problem in SH3/4:[/B]
-in the main page at your right check Global, then in

- Enhancements page:
check MultiSampling 4x
check Super- Transparency AA
check AF 16x or 8x
check Vertical Sync Applicaion,

- Optimizations page:
check Texture filtering High Quality
check Tril. opt. Off
check Aniso sample opt. Off
check Neg LOd Bias Clamp
leave all the others settings unchanged

Good Hunting!

Rubini.

THANK YOU THANK YOU

You turned a slightly laggy game into a smooth simulated fighting machine!

Not sure what everyone else is grumbling about, but at least my game is a game again not just a beautiful postcard.

[Doolittle81]

Originally Posted by Rubini

(I also posted the same on SH3 general forum because i guess that this is really usefull)

Hi folks,

After some days in tests and with the help of our mates Periscope and mikaelanderlund, I finally finish my concise guide to enhance the image quality in SH3/4 using nHancer and Nvidia cards.
To finish - nHancer best settings for good image quality without any noticeable problem in SH3/4:[/b]
-in the main page at your right check Global, then in

- Enhancements page:
check MultiSampling 4x
check Super- Transparency AA
check AF 16x or 8x
check Vertical Sync Applicaion,

- Optimizations page:
check Texture filtering High Quality
check Tril. opt. Off
check Aniso sample opt. Off
check Neg LOd Bias Clamp
leave all the others settings unchanged

Good Hunting!

Rubini.

What about your previously recommended selection of "20000000:EA Strategy Games" on the compatibility page?

[1480]

DL8, I've been running what he suggested since the 1st post, including the EA2000000000000 setting and looks great, 8600gt.

[Rockin Robbins]

Only exception being the 7900 GS or any card that gives you the zebra effect in my previous post. Even there do not turn off the "20000000:EA Strategy Games" compatibility setting, just check the "enhance in-game AA setting" box like I did and all Rubini's improvements will work for you too.

You can ignore all the stuff about not exceeding 2x AA and all. Trust Rubini and you'll love the results.

[ATR-42]

Originally Posted by Toastman

Hi fellow NV users , I run a 8800GTX and finally managed to get sun flare back while running FSAA x4 ....... DISABLE GAMMA CORRECTION under FSAA and ALSO
ENABLE MULTISAMPLE TRANSPERANCY ANTIALIASING in NV control panel settings .

good luck , and happy hunting

Toastman out .....

Ref post here: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=3407

Are there any advantages to Multisampling over Supersampling?

[filefool]

I downloaded nhancer, installed OLC environment, applied all the settings you recommended and got those strange squares when i view my boat from certain angles:



It's always there, but the effect is best seen in heavy seas.
Any idea what causes this?

BTW i got a geforce 7900 GTO with the latest nvidia drivers.

[hcwolf9]

OK all. Read all the posts and fixed all your issues.

To finish - nHancer best settings for good image quality without any noticeable problem in SH3/4:
-in the main page at your right check Profile then select the sh3.exe and add sh4.exe

- Enhancements page:
check Anti-Aliasing - Supersampling 8xs
check Super- Transparency AA
check AF 16x or 8x
check Vertical Sync off,

- Optimizations page:
check Texture filtering High Quality
check Tril. opt. Off or unchecked
check Aniso sample opt. ON (This removes Jaggies and removes the while lines you get around models and waves and rivits etc. If you are running 1920x1080 like me)

check Neg LOd Bias Clamp
leave all the others settings unchanged

- Compatibility page:
choose AA Compatibility 20000000: EA Strategy Games (this is what makes a huge difference in image quality, forcing the AA to be applyed to the entire scene. This is probably also the best solution for Flight sims)
leave all the others settings unchanged.
Then don't close nHancer go to Tools > Activate Profiles > Sh3 (select the sh3/4 profile).

now minimise nhancer and play.

In SH4 unchek post processing in graphics settings to remove grainy look.

ok my specs and I get min 60fps(big battles) max 200+ (sky) avg 110 FPS. general play.

my specs Q6600 (3ghz) , SLI x2 EVGA 8800GT's 512MB (not OC). 4gig 800 ram My winxp only recognises 2.5Gig Ram. 32" LCD screen Hdmi 1920X1080 75hz. oh and Evga 680i SLI Motherboard.

this will give you good settings. if it is slow then back down your supersampling to the multi x4.

Let me know guys but this does fix all your issues i have read so far. the big fix is check on the Aniso sample opt.

Happy Sailing from Hells Circus. HC Wolf.

[col_Kurtz]

This my firts uploaded .jpg, I hope I did it well.
It`s a Rad X1300 Pro, 2.66Ghz, 1GB RAM... SH4 and some addons, sunhold etc. I know, this not nVidia, but at this moment... nVidia is so far for me Anyway, game is lovely, postcard, or not, should be looks well and nice, I think, isn`t? Ocean is ocean, sky is blue... Ship is a ship, warship, and you know, what I mean, I suppose. For me this is very good game
T`ca mates...

[JoeCorrado]

NVidea GeForce 7600 GT 512mb AGP

Had the same problem with the streaky clouds. Your solution; disabling the EA compatability option fixed it.

However, a better solution (described here) is to leave the EA Compatability selected AND to check the box under 'enhancements' titled "enhance in game aa setting" - the result gives you the best of both worlds.

If you enable the option "Enhance in-game AA setting", AA will only be applied as defined by the game - so you have to enable AA in the game as well. But the driver still controls which AA mode is applied, which gives you the best results: optimal compatibility and efficiency while still being able to use all the new modes offered by nVidia.

Originally Posted by Meridian

Its caused by the Anti-Aliasing Compatibility Option on the Compatibilty tab of NHancer. "EA Startegy Games"

Did the same thing with me.

Turn it off and try again.

I'm running a 7900GTX, just for the record.