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11-14-15, 01:51 PM | #91 |
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I have a question for you to think about
Why Paris, France ? Why not Berlin, Madrid or London ? |
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Tying this to the recent refugee crisis is to miss what's been going on for years - inter-European bickering about information sharing and data collection.
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So no, not really. Certainly imposing heavy border checks and severely curtailing freedom of movement might have caught this in progress, but to frame it as you have as an even trade, one for the other, is false. IS would have had no trouble getting fighters in place if there was no refugee crisis.
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11-14-15, 02:00 PM | #93 | |
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The dog won't die becasue of a few fleas, France won't die becasue of a terrorist attack. If your dog has fleas you take measures to kill the fleas and make some measures it won't catch them again. And that means not going after the entire Endopterygota* superorder just because one order is of a parasite variety. And since terrorists want us to be affraid, concerning ourselves over it, cancelling travel, hidding in our houses, looking over our shoulder and giving governments powers over our personal life means THEY won and I'll personally send every one that became affraid a white flag so falsely given to the French by the internet in the last years and wave it with pride. *Endopterygota superorder includes fleas, beetles, wasps, bees, ants and butterflies |
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11-14-15, 02:23 PM | #94 |
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Huh, so fleas are in the same superorder as Butterflies...you learn something new every day.
Apparently an old co-worker and school friend was in Paris at the time, fortunately she is safe and is coming back soon. Police and army are everywhere apparently. |
11-14-15, 02:23 PM | #95 |
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France is amongst the front runners with having problems with its very huge Muslim population that grows rapidly. It also is part of the anti IS coalition, and has installed some legislation that are not in favour of Islamic demands. And as I said: a huge sub-group of IS' legionaires, are French. In a way one can say that France gets caught by the backleash of its own migration policies of the past half of a century. The integration of that huge Muslim influx, has failed on epic proportions. I knbow nio country in europe, where the integration of bigger Muslim communities was a success story.
Contemporary world events just were a spark that worked as the trigger. Also, propaganda efforts by IS find many open ears in France, due to that high numbers of Muslims living there. Many people will also say that those poor Muslim communities are disadvantaged and socially discriminated. Well, that formed up over decades, and to good parts even is true. The question however just is: why do they get discriminated and why do many people no longer want to have much to do with them anymore? Could their lacking integration that they refused to realise, have anything to do with it? Or does that hurt precious socialist feelings or violate political correctness that always claims the fault is ours, not theirs, and that we must just try harder to like them? Or is it maybe an even deeper fundamental incompatability between the value system as formalised in the French constitutional order and Western civilization, and Islamic morals and demands? It should really catch your attention that where ever in Europe there are bigger Muslim communities, there are troubles, and these troubles grow practically everywhere. They just do not integrate. Other foreigners coming to Europe to fit in, over time melt in, adapt, integrate. Islam does not. Never did. Muslims allowing to get assimilated, are a minority, Muslims building successful, even exemplary careers, are even more an exception from the rule. Maybe because the claimed word of Allah is put above earthly man-made values and rules, and due to its divine nature its rulership is not to be negotiated? I hear the hypocrites yelling already, "Islam has nothing to do with what happened yesterday". It has all and everything to do with it. The shout Allahu Akbar! was to be heard on all places of the slaughtering. "Moderate" Muslims may think that they do not belong to those barbars. But those barbars belong to these "moderate" Muslims nevertheless, they base on the same book, the same historical figure and story, they speak in that scriptures' name and correctly refer to it. They match the examples set up by Muhammad himself during his life much closer. When Muhammad could exterminate a whole Jewish tribe and execute all 900 male members, old and young, on the market place in Medina, while leading all women into working and sexual slavery: just because he felt offended by the educational intellectual superiority of the Jewish pharisees - why should he have a problem with his disciples slaughtering 130 infidels belonging to a culture that stands in Islam's way, hindering it to fulfill Muhammad's wanted heritage of world rulership? I remind also of the fact that many of the attackers from London were no social losers or disadvantaged, discriminated victims of social injustice, but came from the social middle clas, had good jobs, homes, families. That should make people think.
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11-14-15, 02:24 PM | #96 |
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11-14-15, 02:27 PM | #97 |
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I can kill people and yell ''für den Kaiser Franz Joseph'', will that mean it is an Austro-Hungarian issue ??
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11-14-15, 02:36 PM | #98 | |
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A psychopathic murderer who was taking innocent life before blowing himself up - why do you take that to be a reasonable source of motive? Why is that proof to you? Frankly I consider a murderous rampage to be a sign of a flawed mind, easily seduced by opportunistic sadists. Apparently you think this is the sign of a well-adjusted honest thinker. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Wouldn't want to misrepresent your position. Quote:
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There can't be huge unintegrated Muslim populations in France if by your definition none of them are proper Muslims. Fin So Betonov, what's Lepidoptera then? I vaguely remember the term and don't wanna Google
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11-14-15, 02:42 PM | #100 |
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11-14-15, 03:05 PM | #101 | |
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11-14-15, 03:12 PM | #102 |
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They're called geologists and I'm more inclined for botany than geology.
And what part of the analogy you deem not correct, appart from the fact that it was made by a ''geologist'' that refuses to drop down to muslim generalisation drivel like many village drunkards do lately ?? |
11-14-15, 03:47 PM | #103 | |
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11-14-15, 04:12 PM | #104 |
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Well, there are a lot of igneous people in the world...
That is to say that they are formed of hot temperatures, high pressure and sometimes float in water. |
11-14-15, 04:52 PM | #105 |
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Don't know how to put this so it doesn't sound like I'm for killing innocent people.
As said by Hollande, the attack seem to have been planned outside France, which indicate that ISIS is capable to plane and conduct simultanious attacks on foreign ground But they(ISIS) are not clever- They could have paralized France or part of France by attacking other important things like poweplants railroad connections a.s.o I'm wondering when they are going to change course and do that, attack a countries "bloodstream" Markus |
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