US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 694

Catfish · 09-01-20, 01:15 AM

^ Because you already have your own opinion, and then you look for arguments that support that, and only that.

And since the search engine algorithms present to you what they found out you want to see, you are soon living in your perfect filter bubble, presented to you by Google, Facebook, blah.

"Don't bother me with inconvenient facts, my opinion stands, all else is fake news"

Skybird · 09-01-20, 04:30 AM

"The few facts I happen to believe in, I fabricate myself. And I am thankful for Facebook and Twitter helping me to find out what I really think."

mapuc · 09-01-20, 10:25 AM

...and that's why I change the search criteria when I want to investigate what friends may have posted.

Markus

eddie · 09-01-20, 02:25 PM

Trump has set up shop in fantasy land,lol You can't make this stuff up!!

Trump appeared to be riffing on a viral Facebook post from 1 June that falsely claimed a group of men in black attire – associated with the anti-fascist movement – flew from Seattle, Washington, to Boise, Idaho, NBC News reported. Nothing about the Facebook post was true, but the president made it the centerpiece of wild accusations about his political opponent.
“He’s not controlling anything,” Trump said of Biden. “They control ...”
”Who do you think is pulling Biden’s strings?” Ingraham asked. “Is it former Obama people?”
Trump said it was “People that you’ve never heard of, people that are in the dark shadows, people that are –”
Ingraham interjected, asking: “What does that mean? That sounds like a conspiracy theory. Dark shadows. What is that?”
“People that you haven’t heard of,” Trump said. “They’re, they’re people that are on the streets, they’re people that are controlling the streets. We had somebody get on a plane from a certain city this weekend, and in the plane it was almost completely loaded with thugs, wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear, and this and that. They’re on a plane –”
Ingraham interjected again, asking: “Where was this?”
“I’ll tell you some time,” Trump said. “But it’s under investigation right now.”

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...QaM?li=BBnb7Kz

Skybird · 09-01-20, 02:59 PM

The fire is still not hot enough, he must get the fire hotter. The flames are not yet burning high enough, he needs to set up some fans. The plebs is not yelling loud enough, they must yell much, much louder. He needs more violence and more riot so to pose as the law and order man, so he sets up even more lies and offences to provoke for it.

He destroys whatever there is, only for his own selfinterest. He destroys the countrry to save his idea of himself.

I do not know who is worse - himself, or those still thinking he is electable, or supporting him for their own politlical career interests, which makes such politicians maybe even bigger scum than Trump himself.

The world watches, and cannot believe how this country and its people dismemembers itself. It once stood for the most noble of ideals to strive form, maybe it was only an utopia, the quest for the blue flower (a motive formt he German era of so-called Romantik), but at least it was the human mind trying to point at something beyond itself. It now is just the illustration of its own worst enemy and nightmare, and brings out the worst in man.

Only the fall of Germany 80 years ago has been steeper and even more dramatic. The biggest cultural-political tragedy of this century so far. One does not know whether one wants to cry or wants to yell and shout. Only one thing is beyond doubt to me now. The USA as was known in earlier decades, is dead, done and over. From this desaster named Trump, the US will never recover again, not culturally, not socially, not politically. It compares a bit to Mordred turning against Arthur and Camelot and what they stood for, and leaving the brotherhood of the round table slain and the ideals it stood for, in burnt ruins.

Well, the innocence was lost aleady before, I think. The modus operandi still ran in kind of an autopilot mode, keeping the illusion alive for some longer time. Now even that is over.

u crank · 09-01-20, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skybird

He destroys whatever there is, only for his own selfinterest. He destroys the countrry to save his idea of himself.

What? Are you saying that Trump is behind the almost three months of rioting, looting and burning in Democrat controlled cities and states? That some how in these states that won't vote for him anyway he doesn't want the mayhem to stop?

Once again Skybird your lack of knowledge is stunning. The mayor of Portland, Ted Wheeler refused President Trump's offer to send federal law enforcement to the city to control downtown protests. Are you aware of that? Now acting DHS Secretary Chad F. Wolf has made a similar offer. Portland is a Democrat city in a Democrat state.

Who wants what to burn and why?

mapuc · 09-01-20, 04:00 PM

I guess some of you have seen and heard Trump compares police brutality to golfers who ‘miss a 3-foot putt’

Before I start to shake my head, I would like to hear it from another angle

Because I and hundreds of thousand more may have misunderstod what he meant by it.

Markus

Buddahaid · 09-01-20, 04:24 PM

It's not very well chosen analogy but it refers to something that shouldn't happen but does on occasion.

August · 09-01-20, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Hearsay. How many times have you dismissed anything related to anonymous sources August? Why do you seem to believe this one?

Well you'll note that I said it was from an anonymous source right at the top of the post and I didn't declare it to be a fact. In any case you're entitled not to believe it you know.

Onkel Neal · 09-01-20, 10:02 PM

I wanna know what's up with Biden declaring he would never stop fracking. During the primaries he was saying he would eliminate it. Vienna, help me here. Is this a case of Biden lying?

Catfish · 09-02-20, 01:16 AM

Yeah better stay away from Biden if Russia tells you to.
(targeted at the left, the right is already on the road to ..)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN25S5UI

"findings support an assessment by the United States’ top counterintelligence official last month, who said Moscow was using online disinformation to try to undercut the Biden campaign"

edit: I'd say they could have spared their efforts, Biden is unelectable (Trump was, too but he had better managers). The only chance for B. that a majority wants to remove Trump at all costs.

turbotnator · 09-02-20, 04:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

I wanna know what's up with Biden declaring he would never stop fracking. During the primaries he was saying he would eliminate it. Vienna, help me here. Is this a case of Biden lying?

The man's been lying for years with zero recourse or regret. During the primaries he tried to say he opposed Iraq when he was actually one of the most vocal Democratic supporters for it in the legislature.

Skybird · 09-02-20, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

I guess some of you have seen and heard Trump compares police brutality to golfers who ‘miss a 3-foot putt’

Before I start to shake my head, I would like to hear it from another angle

Because I and hundreds of thousand more may have misunderstod what he meant by it.

Markus

He drops the poo in orderr to raise the stink level, there is not much you could read into it. Fuel into the fire. Provokating more. The hotter the better.

There is no excuse anymore to give this figure the benefit of the doubt.

Catfish · 09-02-20, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbotnator

The man's been lying for years [my edit: Biden] with zero recourse or regret. During the primaries he tried to say he opposed Iraq when he was actually one of the most vocal Democratic supporters for it in the legislature.

If lying is the precondition for a politician, Trump is clearly in the lead.

I wonder if this level of divison can ever be returned to a normal state, Trump will not be the one to do this of course. He is fanning the flames, the more chaos, the more destraction from his failures, and more "win". For him, not the USA.

Onkel Neal · 09-02-20, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

Yeah better stay away from Biden if Russia tells you to.
(targeted at the left, the right is already on the road to ..)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN25S5UI

"findings support an assessment by the United States’ top counterintelligence official last month, who said Moscow was using online disinformation to try to undercut the Biden campaign"

edit: I'd say they could have spared their efforts, Biden is unelectable (Trump was, too but he had better managers). The only chance for B. that a majority wants to remove Trump at all costs.

Ok, but these are Biden's own words, eh? Isn't that the best thing to go on? ANd if you can beat up one guy for being a liar, isn't it hypocritical to excuse the other guy when he does the same thing?

Meanwhile, congrats August.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/01/polit...key/index.html

Quote:

"When it comes to progressive leadership, it's not your age that counts, it's the age of your ideas," Ocasio-Cortez said in an ad. "And Ed Markey is the leader that we need."

09-01-20, 01:15 AM	#10396
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,820 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	^ Because you already have your own opinion, and then you look for arguments that support that, and only that. And since the search engine algorithms present to you what they found out you want to see, you are soon living in your perfect filter bubble, presented to you by Google, Facebook, blah. "Don't bother me with inconvenient facts, my opinion stands, all else is fake news" __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 09-01-20 at 01:25 AM.*

09-01-20, 04:30 AM	#10397
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,786 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	"The few facts I happen to believe in, I fabricate myself. And I am thankful for Facebook and Twitter helping me to find out what I really think." __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-01-20, 02:25 PM	#10399
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	Trump has set up shop in fantasy land,lol You can't make this stuff up!! Trump appeared to be riffing on a viral Facebook post from 1 June that falsely claimed a group of men in black attire – associated with the anti-fascist movement – flew from Seattle, Washington, to Boise, Idaho, NBC News reported. Nothing about the Facebook post was true, but the president made it the centerpiece of wild accusations about his political opponent. “He’s not controlling anything,” Trump said of Biden. “They control ...” ”Who do you think is pulling Biden’s strings?” Ingraham asked. “Is it former Obama people?” Trump said it was “People that you’ve never heard of, people that are in the dark shadows, people that are –” Ingraham interjected, asking: “What does that mean? That sounds like a conspiracy theory. Dark shadows. What is that?” “People that you haven’t heard of,” Trump said. “They’re, they’re people that are on the streets, they’re people that are controlling the streets. We had somebody get on a plane from a certain city this weekend, and in the plane it was almost completely loaded with thugs, wearing these dark uniforms, black uniforms with gear, and this and that. They’re on a plane –” Ingraham interjected again, asking: “Where was this?” “I’ll tell you some time,” Trump said. “But it’s under investigation right now.” https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...QaM?li=BBnb7Kz __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

09-01-20, 02:59 PM	#10400
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,786 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The fire is still not hot enough, he must get the fire hotter. The flames are not yet burning high enough, he needs to set up some fans. The plebs is not yelling loud enough, they must yell much, much louder. He needs more violence and more riot so to pose as the law and order man, so he sets up even more lies and offences to provoke for it. He destroys whatever there is, only for his own selfinterest. He destroys the countrry to save his idea of himself. I do not know who is worse - himself, or those still thinking he is electable, or supporting him for their own politlical career interests, which makes such politicians maybe even bigger scum than Trump himself. The world watches, and cannot believe how this country and its people dismemembers itself. It once stood for the most noble of ideals to strive form, maybe it was only an utopia, the quest for the blue flower (a motive formt he German era of so-called Romantik), but at least it was the human mind trying to point at something beyond itself. It now is just the illustration of its own worst enemy and nightmare, and brings out the worst in man. Only the fall of Germany 80 years ago has been steeper and even more dramatic. The biggest cultural-political tragedy of this century so far. One does not know whether one wants to cry or wants to yell and shout. Only one thing is beyond doubt to me now. The USA as was known in earlier decades, is dead, done and over. From this desaster named Trump, the US will never recover again, not culturally, not socially, not politically. It compares a bit to Mordred turning against Arthur and Camelot and what they stood for, and leaving the brotherhood of the round table slain and the ideals it stood for, in burnt ruins. Well, the innocence was lost aleady before, I think. The modus operandi still ran in kind of an autopilot mode, keeping the illusion alive for some longer time. Now even that is over. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-01-20, 04:24 PM	#10403
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 9,335 Downloads: 162 Uploads: 0	It's not very well chosen analogy but it refers to something that shouldn't happen but does on occasion. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

09-01-20, 10:25 AM	#10398
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,617 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	...and that's why I change the search criteria when I want to investigate what friends may have posted. Markus

09-01-20, 04:00 PM	#10402
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,617 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I guess some of you have seen and heard Trump compares police brutality to golfers who ‘miss a 3-foot putt’ Before I start to shake my head, I would like to hear it from another angle Because I and hundreds of thousand more may have misunderstod what he meant by it. Markus

09-01-20, 10:02 PM	#10405
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	I wanna know what's up with Biden declaring he would never stop fracking. During the primaries he was saying he would eliminate it. Vienna, help me here. Is this a case of Biden lying?

09-02-20, 01:16 AM	#10406
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,820 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Yeah better stay away from Biden if Russia tells you to. (targeted at the left, the right is already on the road to ..) https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN25S5UI "findings support an assessment by the United States’ top counterintelligence official last month, who said Moscow was using online disinformation to try to undercut the Biden campaign" edit: I'd say they could have spared their efforts, Biden is unelectable (Trump was, too but he had better managers). The only chance for B. that a majority wants to remove Trump at all costs. __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 09-02-20 at 03:27 AM.*