UK Politics Thread - Page 673

Jimbuna · 05-28-19, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MGR1

The same could also apply in Northern Ireland.

Mike.

Apologies, I meant to make reference to both Scotland and Ireland.

Jimbuna · 05-28-19, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Steptoe is not fit to lead the UK and as long as he remains we will be stuck with the Tories.

Just when you thought matters couldn't get any worse. This investigation is long overdue.

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The Equality and Human Rights Commission has launched a formal investigation into the Labour Party over allegations of anti-Semitism.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48433964

STEED · 05-28-19, 05:33 PM

News papers tomorrow are reporting Labour will call for a second reforendrum and back it to the hilt. This will tear them apart even more as they are about too walk over their voters who voted leave.

Meanwhile the Tories fear calling a general election and the new leader will not be able to re-negotiate the brexit deal states the EU President.

Are we witnessing the self destruction of the two main party's? Not in my book.

STEED · 05-29-19, 05:23 AM

Tory leadership candidates so far (Updated)

Boris Johnson 60%
Esther McVey 20%
Jeremy Hunt 50%
Rory Stewart 35%
Matt Hancock 40%
Dominic Raab 55%
Andrea Leadsom 35%
Michael Gove 55%
Sajid Javid 75%
Kit Malthouse 45%
James Cleverly 50%
(% is my predictions so far)

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Boris Johnson is to be summonsed to court to face accusations of misconduct in a public office, over claims he made that the UK sent the EU £350m a week.

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-joh...nduct-11730747

Please care to note BusGate had nothing to do with Nigel as Vote Leave wanted nothing to do with him so he ran his own campaign. I say this as I'm sick to death of Remainers saying it was Nigel.

Jimbuna · 05-29-19, 06:19 AM

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Labour's decision to expel Alastair Campbell was "spiteful", the party's deputy leader says, arguing it should be "listening rather than punishing".

Tony Blair's former spin doctor was kicked out of the party after revealing he had voted for the Liberal Democrats in the European elections.

But Tom Watson called for an "amnesty" for Labour members disillusioned by the party's lack of "clarity" on Brexit.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48443838

Tom Watson is one of the few in Labour who are level headed and still speak some sense.

I voted for him at the leadership election but now fear he will become a new target for the loony left.

MGR1 · 05-29-19, 01:00 PM

Sturgeon starts turning the screw (also gets the SNP's Radical wing off her back for now):

Indyref2 'framework' bill published at Holyrood

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Legislation which could pave the way for a new Scottish independence referendum has been tabled at Holyrood.
The Scottish government wants to put the question of independence to a new public vote in the second half of 2020.
However, the Referendums (Scotland) Bill does not set a date or question, with ministers seeking agreement with the UK government

Why is Nicola Sturgeon making indyref2 plans?

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Nicola Sturgeon has no intention of going ahead with an independence referendum that has not been authorised by Westminster.
It may be very frustrating to her that the UK government need to give their consent to another vote, but she does accept that it is the reality.
The first minister also knows that it is extremely unlikely that any incoming prime minister would give their approval for another indyref.
We may not know who the next Tory leader is going to be - but you can be sure that any candidate who wants to secure the votes of Conservative members in Scotland will need to firmly rule out allowing a second referendum anytime soon.

Due to the pro-UK vote being spread out between three competing parties (SCon, SLab and SLibDem) lets just say that effective opposition to the SNP is quite poor. The SCons are hamstrung by their attachment to the UK Conservatives, SLab's almost at death's door whilst the SLibDems aren't big enough or popular enough to be much of a worry for the Nats and their Scottish Green allies (of convenience - there are ideological differences there).

Mike.

MGR1 · 05-29-19, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Apologies, I meant to make reference to both Scotland and Ireland.

No need to Jim, I knew what you meant.

Mike.

Catfish · 05-29-19, 01:28 PM

From a dutch point of view, or "how i learned to loathe England"

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/m...loathe-england

"England has turned to something you really don't want in your club."
Not my opinion, because i know there are still some who do not vote for Farage, but some more yellow press 'reports' like from Express or The Sun and i'm not sure what to think anymore.
It is Brexit-Britain who wants a hard border in Ireland, not the EU.
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/b...ning-1.3841576
"No one, not the Remainers or the Leavers, voted to jump off a cliff yet this is what we’re told we must embrace or face being labelled a “traitor”."
Brexit is not about the EU or about the economy, and it seems it never was.

skidman · 05-29-19, 04:54 PM

^excellent reading. Thanks for posting this.

mapuc · 05-29-19, 04:56 PM

I don't envy you and those political problems you have to face in this Brexit times.

I guess we all have our own political problems in our countries.

Markus

STEED · 05-30-19, 04:45 AM

Just watching the news and Old Jezzer thinks if he wins a general election he can talk to the EU and get a new deal.

Really?...

Jimbuna · 05-30-19, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Catfish

From a dutch point of view, or "how i learned to loathe England"

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/m...loathe-england

"England has turned to something you really don't want in your club."
Not my opinion, because i know there are still some who do not vote for Farage, but some more yellow press 'reports' like from Express or The Sun and i'm not sure what to think anymore.
It is Brexit-Britain who wants a hard border in Ireland, not the EU.
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/b...ning-1.3841576
"No one, not the Remainers or the Leavers, voted to jump off a cliff yet this is what we’re told we must embrace or face being labelled a “traitor”."
Brexit is not about the EU or about the economy, and it seems it never was.

After reading those articles I'm simply thankful I only have electric ovens in the house

Jimbuna · 05-30-19, 05:29 AM

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Alastair Campbell's expulsion from the Labour Party should be reviewed, the shadow attorney general has said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48457900

Most definitely

STEED · 05-30-19, 06:09 AM

Place your bets its By-Election time..

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The 15 candidates battling for the Peterborough seat vacated by disgraced MP Fiona Onasanya have told the BBC why people should vote for them.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-48384070

I like the look of.. Alan "Howling Laud" Hope - Official Monster Raving Loony Party

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Iain Duncan Smith has called for a rethink of the Conservative leadership contest rules to avoid "chaos".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48458370

Please not more, this is getting silly.

Reece · 05-30-19, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Place your bets its By-Election time..

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-48384070

I like the look of.. Alan "Howling Laud" Hope - Official Monster Raving Loony Party

I noticed one of the candidates is Pierre Kirk, is he related to James T.

05-28-19, 05:33 PM	#10083
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	News papers tomorrow are reporting Labour will call for a second reforendrum and back it to the hilt. This will tear them apart even more as they are about too walk over their voters who voted leave. Meanwhile the Tories fear calling a general election and the new leader will not be able to re-negotiate the brexit deal states the EU President. Are we witnessing the self destruction of the two main party's? Not in my book. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

05-29-19, 01:28 PM	#10088
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,768 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	From a dutch point of view, or "how i learned to loathe England" https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/m...loathe-england "England has turned to something you really don't want in your club." Not my opinion, because i know there are still some who do not vote for Farage, but some more yellow press 'reports' like from Express or The Sun and i'm not sure what to think anymore. It is Brexit-Britain who wants a hard border in Ireland, not the EU. https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/b...ning-1.3841576 "No one, not the Remainers or the Leavers, voted to jump off a cliff yet this is what we’re told we must embrace or face being labelled a “traitor”." Brexit is not about the EU or about the economy, and it seems it never was. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

05-30-19, 04:45 AM	#10091
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Just watching the news and Old Jezzer thinks if he wins a general election he can talk to the EU and get a new deal. Really?... __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

05-29-19, 04:54 PM	#10089
skidman Ace of the Deep Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Near the Dutch mountains Posts: 1,147 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	^excellent reading. Thanks for posting this.

05-29-19, 04:56 PM	#10090
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,541 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	I don't envy you and those political problems you have to face in this Brexit times. I guess we all have our own political problems in our countries. Markus