UK Politics Thread part II

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Met Police adviser led ‘from the river to the sea’ chant
Lawyer Attiq Malik, who chairs official advisory body for Scotland Yard, instigated ‘offensive’ slogan

By
Edward Malnick,
SUNDAY POLITICAL EDITOR
4 November 2023 • 8:44pm

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...the-sea-chant/

A hard-Left activist who was filmed leading chants of “from the river to the sea” at a pro-Palestinian rally is an adviser to the police on their response to protests over the Israel-Hamas conflict, The Telegraph can disclose.



Attiq Malik, a solicitor who has also railed against “global censorship by the Zionists”, was present in the police operations room during protests last month.

A video uncovered by The Telegraph shows Mr Malik instigating chants of “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” in 2021, a slogan described by Downing Street as “deeply offensive” to many.

The disclosure of his role is likely to further embarrass the Metropolitan Police after weeks of criticism of the force’s handling of protests at which officers took no action in response to calls for “jihad”.

It comes after The Telegraph revealed last week that Mohammed Kozbar, a prominent mosque chairman who praised the founder of Hamas, has been advising the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) as part of a “scrutiny panel” on hate crime.

The CPS is now understood to be carrying out an urgent review of the panel’s membership.

In other developments:

Ministers have urged regulators to crack down on extremist and hateful remarks by doctors, nurses, charities and academics

The Metropolitan Police said 11 arrests were made at a pro-Palestinian protest in central London on Saturday

Robert Halfon, the universities minister, told The Telegraph of an “invisible ghetto” forming on campuses as a result of Jewish students “feeling afraid to participate in everyday life”

The Metropolitan Police indicated that it could try to ban a protest planned for Armistice Day and will keep the event “under review”

Hamas put wounded terrorists on a list of those trying flee Gaza, delaying the escape of foreigners from the territory.

This newspaper can reveal that Mr Malik is chairman of London Muslim Communities Forum, which is described on a dedicated page of the Metropolitan Police’s website as a “strategic advisory body for the Met”.

Among its formal objectives are to “inform and help shape police policy and procedure at a strategic level”.

In this capacity, Mr Malik was invited to observe the Metropolitan Police’s response to protests from the force’s operations room in Lambeth, south London, last month.

Senior officers in the operations room, overseen by the “gold commander” responsible for policing each march, have been making decisions about whether particular chants or behaviour constitute criminal offences.

Mr Malik’s position as chairman of the body is not publicised by the Metropolitan Police. It is understood that the Metropolitan Police does not routinely vet advisers.

Suella Braverman, the Home Secretary, has warned that the “river to the sea” chant may “be understood as an expression of a violent desire to see Israel erased”.

She has asked police to consider whether its use in certain circumstances may constitute an offence, but the force faced criticism for taking a contrary view.
A senior Tory expressed disbelief at Mr Malik’s role, saying it raised “serious questions”.

The senior Tory said: “Does the Met really want to be seen to be associated with people who are chanting what are demonstrably anti-Semitic slogans?”

Mr Malik is a criminal defence solicitor based in Luton, who has attended previous pro-Palestinian protests as a “legal observer” and has uploaded videos to social media advising thousands of followers of their rights at protests in recent weeks.

He has appeared on the television programme 24 Hours in Police Custody, when he became known for advising clients of their legal right to state “no comment”.
He has been involved in a series of legal cases against police forces, including the Metropolitan Police. He has also repeatedly called for Prevent, the Government’s counter-extremism scheme, to be scrapped.

The Metropolitan Police declined to give details of any advice that Mr Malik might have provided in recent weeks. But his presence in the Lambeth operations room is likely to cause particular concern, given that the Metropolitan Police had said that it was in that room that its officers were making decisions about whether particular behaviour is illegal.

Online profiles state that he is a former chairman of the Luton branch of Momentum, the hard-Left group that propelled Jeremy Corbyn into the Labour leadership.
Luton protest

A video uncovered by this newspaper shows Mr Malik addressing a protest in Luton against an earlier Israeli offensive in Gaza in May 2021.
On the steps of Luton Town Hall, holding a microphone, Mr Malik stated: “We go on BBC, ITV, do we see any of this? No we don’t.

“You watch Sky News, do we see this? No. Even on social media what we’re seeing is the posts are going up on Insta, LinkedIn, Facebook, they’re getting deleted.

“What’s going on is global censorship by the Zionists, global censorship to silence us.”

He ended his address by instigating chants of “from the river to the sea”, encouraging those at the rally to respond with “Palestine will be free”.
His past criticisms of the police include stating “typical despicable behaviour by @‌metpoliceuk” over its handling of a vigil for the murdered Londoner Sarah Everard in March 2021.

In June 2020, he dismissed concerns about a female mounted police officer who was injured after the horse she was riding bolted and collided with a traffic light during unrest at anti-racism protests in London.

He stated: “Dismay about a police horse bolting and the police rider getting knocked of it by hitting a traffic light, why put police horses in that situation in the first place in the middle of a peaceful protest!”

A dedicated page on the Metropolitan Police website states that: “The London Muslim Communities Forum is a strategic advisory body for the Met; it brings together representatives from London’s diverse Muslim communities and senior police officers with the aim of addressing issues raised by the Muslim community and working together to provide a strategic response.”
None of its members are named.

On Oct 11, a statement by the LMCF, which was tweeted by Mr Kozbar and reposted by Mr Malik, threatened legal action if there was any attempt to ban “pro-Palestinian protests and the use of a Palestinian flag”.

Following arrests ahead of the King’s Coronation, Mr Malik wrote: “Sunak and his cronies are attempting to steamroller through a new phase of state oppression.”
Met Police response

Ade Adelekan, deputy assistant commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, said: “We talk to people from all backgrounds to ensure we understand the effect of policing on their communities.

“As part of this work, the Met supports and works with a number of advisory groups.

“It may be the case that members of these groups have views we do not endorse. Often they are strongly held. They may also be critical of the Met and policing.
“We do not take instructions from advisory groups or anyone else and we will always maintain our operational independence.

“It is right that we listen to those we serve to build a better Met.”
It is understood that representatives of other faiths were present in the operations room at the same time as Mr Malik.
Mr Malik did not respond to questions.

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The upcoming King’s Speech will help build a “better future” for Britain for the rest of this century, Rishi Sunak has said.

As he prepares to unveil what is on course to be his last programme for government as prime minister, Mr Sunak said the speech would stimulate the economy and strengthen society, and suggested its legacy would last seven decades.

Mr Sunak also pledged to bring forward bills that help people feel safer “in their own communities” and instil a pride in the “place they call home” on Tuesday.

The King's Speech will be seen as an indication of Mr Sunak's priorities ahead of the general election, which must be held by January 2025.

Although Charles delivered the speech at the last state opening of Parliament last year, he was doing so in place of his mother, the late Queen.
Mr Sunak said: "This will be the first King's Speech in 70 years and the legislation we will bring forward is part of our plan to build a better future for the next 70.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...0794fe80&ei=12

What a load of old cobblers....the working class will be the ones expected to pay for it.

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Key points: What was in this year's King's Speech?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67300230

As usual there was nothing of real substance in it and one should always keep in mind, it is not the monarchs speech but rather that of the sitting Prime Minister.

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Aww the king made a speech and someone wrote it for him. How cute.





Rishi Sunak: Armistice Day pro-Palestinian protest should not take place
Story by Will Bolton

The pro-Palestinian rally planned for Armistice Day on Saturday is provocative and should not take place, Rishi Sunak has said.

The Prime Minister’s official spokesman said the Government would “carefully consider” any application submitted by the Metropolitan Police to ban the march.

Organisers say hundreds of thousands of people are expected to attend the demonstration in central London to protest against Israel’s bombardment of Gaza. It is scheduled for the same day veterans plan to gather at the Cenotaph to commemorate Britain’s war dead.

Mr Sunak’s spokesman told reporters: “The Prime Minister himself does not think it’s right for these sorts of protests to be scheduled on Armistice Day. He believes that is provocative and disrespectful.”

Protest organisers met Met Police chiefs on Monday as Sir Mark Rowley, the force’s Commissioner, continued to resist calls to block the rally.

Ade Adelekan, the Deputy Assistant Commissioner, said the force requested that the pro-Palestinian protesters cancel the rally amid a growing threat of “violence and disorder linked to breakaway groups”. However, they have refused to do so, with further talks understood to be taking place later on Tuesday.

It came as former Sir Paul Stephenson, a former Met commissioner who commanded the force from 2009 to 2011, said a final decision on whether to ban the rally “may go to the wire”.

On Tuesday morning, Sir Paul said it was “hugely regrettable that organisations thought it appropriate to march on this particular date on this weekend”, but described the decision on whether to ban it as “delicate and tricky”.

The Met could apply to the Home Secretary for a ban under section 13 of the Public Order Act 1986 on the grounds that there is a risk of serious disorder if they find that their criteria have been met.

Sources within some of the protest groups have indicated that, if the rally is deemed unlawful, they will appeal against the decision.

Sir Paul said on LBC that while he hoped the majority of protesters would comply with a ban and not travel to the capital, he doubted that would be the case.

“And of course, additionally, judgments are going to need to be made regarding the consequences of any ban and the need to police them,” he added. “Overall, these judgments may go to the wire, with responsible police leadership working hard to bring about an appeal for common sense resolution.”



He added that the Met would have to make a decision based on the intelligence and information available and ultimately decide if the risk of violence “reaches the high bar required” to cancel the march.

Explaining his own views on whether the protest should go ahead, he said: “[The organisers] can’t really be in any doubt about the significance of the date and the risks involved. At the very least, it would seem to me to be tone deaf and somewhat insensitive.”

Deputy Assistant Commissioner Adelekan said. “Our message to organisers is clear – please, we ask you to urgently reconsider. It is not appropriate to hold any protests in London this weekend.”

The Palestine Solidarity Campaign, one of the main event organisers, said it was “deeply concerned” by the statement, adding: “The idea that it is acceptable for Israel to keep bombing and killing Palestinians in Gaza, including over 4,000 children, but not for people to protest peacefully against these crimes, is grotesque.”

It has now emerged that a number of far-Right football hooligan groups had vowed to hold a counter-demonstration on Saturday, at which clashes were feared.

[Moonlight]

A demonstration is going ahead in London on behalf of a Terrorist State who's sole existence for living is the extermination of the Jewish race, am I bleeding missing something here or what?, this ******* thing should be shut down immediately and any other demonstrations in the future as well.

Sunak needs to find a backbone and fast, Mark Rowley needs hanging and if Sunak hasn't found his backbone by then he can hang beside Rowley.
£50 plus expenses is my fee, cheap as chips if you ask me, and you get the added bonus of getting rid of two of the biggest W anchors in the UK, interested?.

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Originally Posted by Moonlight

A demonstration is going ahead in London on behalf of a Terrorist State who's sole existence for living is the extermination of the Jewish race, am I bleeding missing something here or what?, this ******* thing should be shut down immediately and any other demonstrations in the future as well.

Sunak needs to find a backbone and fast, Mark Rowley needs hanging and if Sunak hasn't found his backbone by then he can hang beside Rowley.
£50 plus expenses is my fee, cheap as chips if you ask me, and you get the added bonus of getting rid of two of the biggest W anchors in the UK, interested?.

We have fairly large protests here too some even lead by Democrat members of our own congress. That’s what happens when you have uncontrolled immigration and a known PLO terrorist working in the Department of Homeland security rubber stamping their entry.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Moonlight

A demonstration is going ahead in London on behalf of a Terrorist State who's sole existence for living is the extermination of the Jewish race, am I bleeding missing something here or what?, this ******* thing should be shut down immediately and any other demonstrations in the future as well.

Sunak needs to find a backbone and fast, Mark Rowley needs hanging and if Sunak hasn't found his backbone by then he can hang beside Rowley.
£50 plus expenses is my fee, cheap as chips if you ask me, and you get the added bonus of getting rid of two of the biggest W anchors in the UK, interested?.

Put the army on a high state of readiness if it looks like it'll approach anywhere near the level of the Toxteth riots in 81.

Not too much detail but I clearly recall grabbing one guy off the streets and as I marched/dragged him off to a van I said "See those guys up there on the rooftops"? "That gear in their hands is night vision equipment to enable them to assess what countermeasures they'll need should you lot return tomorrow night. Not that you'll be there, you'll be in a cell"

The following night they did return but not in such great numbers and I've always wondered if the guy I'd locked up actually returned himself.

[Jimbuna]

Interesting times ahead perhaps?

No grounds to ban pro-Palestinian march, says Met chief.

A pro-Palestinian march due to take place on Armistice Day would only be banned as a "last resort", the Metropolitan Police Commissioner said.

Sir Mark Rowley vowed officers would do all they could to protect remembrance activities and Jewish communities.

While he said police could not ban static protests under UK law, they can request the power to stop a march if a threat of serious disorder emerges.

But he said the "very high" threshold had not yet been reached.

Sir Mark added that use of the power was "incredibly rare" and there must be no other way for police to manage the event.

Speaking to the BBC, the Met chief said: "At the moment, the organisers are still putting the final stages to their plans - which, to be fair to them, are some way away from the ceremonial footprint in Whitehall.

"They're putting the final touches to those, we're looking alongside that at what conditions we might need to do to reinforce the protection of critical events and of Jewish communities and the like.

"If over the next few days the intelligence evolves further and we get to such a high threshold - and it's only been done once in a decade where we need to say to the home secretary 'we think we need to ban the march element' - then of course we will do."

"But that's a last resort that we haven't reached yet. People should be very reassured that we are going to keep this all away from the remembrance and Armistice events."

He added: "There will be a protest this weekend - the law provides no mechanism to ban a gathering, a static protest, a rally, anything like that... if the organisers want that, then it will happen."

On Monday, the force publicly urged organisers to postpone the event, which is due to take place in central London, saying it would not be "appropriate".

Both Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and Home Secretary Suella Braverman have criticised the timing of the march on 11 November, which thousands are expected to attend.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-67349474

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First Labour frontbencher quits over Keir Starmer's refusal to call for Gaza ceasefire as party meltdown gathers pace - with leader insisting he WON'T change stance

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ge-stance.html

Exodus?.
Will Starmer bow down to these "5th Columnists" or will he not, and more importantly, will the Corbynistas sense that the time is right for a split, time will tell.

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Yeah and looking at the guys name I guess some people will hardly find it surprising.

[Catfish]

^ they can found a new party with german stalinist Sarah Wagenknecht and "they lived happily ever after in Gaza", though this ever after may not be so long

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[Moonlight]

'I need to be more clued up': Students quizzed at pro-Palestine protest reveal how little they know about Israel-Hamas conflict - and aren't even aware that terror group launched bloody slaughter on October 7
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...l-october.html

This is why the Demonstrations should be banned, the Thickness on display here is Unbelievable, if these two idiots are an example of todays education system then I insist they are executed immediately, and might I add that their teachers should be the next ones in line.
These two pillocks shouldn't be allowed to vote never mind procreate, as for those "Fifth Columnists" I'm almost certain that they'll be even thicker than these two, I would close down all schools and universities as this has proven beyond a doubt that the teaching profession has failed to do it's job.

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The first cracks are beginning to appear perhaps.

Home Secretary Suella Braverman is facing questions about her future after defying Downing Street over an article accusing the police of bias.

She claimed aggressive right-wing protesters were "rightly met with a stern response", while "pro-Palestinian mobs" were "largely ignored".

The article was not cleared by Downing Street and suggested changes to the text were not followed, No 10 said.

Some Tories have called for the home secretary to be sacked.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67368785