Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2 - Page 63

mapuc · 09-13-23, 01:26 PM

Markus

Catfish · 09-13-23, 02:00 PM

Found this funny
"Putin never lies. Here's the proof":

https://twitter.com/i/status/1700222712809935133

Dargo · 09-13-23, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

[Snip]

Markus

Do not think duct tape and WD-40 will help here.

Dargo · 09-13-23, 02:16 PM

Today (see at 1:11) when Russian Defense Minister Shoigu bought his one way ticket to the 9th Floor Window Express.

tonschk · 09-13-23, 02:58 PM

Senator DROPS Ukraine, TRUTH BOMBS In HISTORIC SPEECH, STOPPING UKRAINE SUPPORT

Catfish · 09-13-23, 03:08 PM

This is not the 19th century, but some people have to be reminded.
There is no point in declaring who might drop or support Ukraine. Or which side has more "wins" or the upper hand.
Who cares about the person posting this (or his, probably paid for) opinion?
The right action against dictator Putin and support of Ukraine in the current situation is obvious and humanely mandatory.

tonschk · 09-13-23, 03:22 PM

FORMER UKRAINE OFFICIALS EXPOSE ZELENSKYY CORRUPTION: DRUG ADDICT ZELENSKYY SELLS U.S. WEAPONS

https://www.bitchute.com/video/qRlDuKQW7JVX/

Catfish · 09-13-23, 03:29 PM

"Bitchute" is complete nonsense and propaganda just like Fox news, has been proven here for a hundred times.

But the best part is that just of all Putin accuses the west to "install" a jew to fight Russia. While the Russia helped to liberate the jews subdued by nazis in WW2. And Putin calls jews nazis

This is such twisted and concocted history it would make an angel vomit

mapuc · 09-13-23, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

"Bitchute" is complete nonsense and propaganda just like Fox news, has been proven here for a hundred times.

But the best part is that just of all Putin accuses the west to "install" a jew to fight Russia. While the Russia helped to liberate the jews subdued by nazis in WW2. And Putin calls jews nazis

This is such twisted and concocted history it would make an angel vomit

Not for him it is not nonsense and this goes for the rest who has this belief.

In fact none of us know exactly what's going on at the frontline-It is our belief which makes us look for information that tells us what we like to hear.

I like information who says Ukraine are moving forward, slowly though and they have the momentum.

I refuse to believe things like-For each Russian KIA/WIA/POW there are 7-8 Ukrainian KIA/WIA/POW.
Or
The Russian tanks is smashing the Leopard 2.

Markus

Catfish · 09-13-23, 04:03 PM

Hello Markus,
yes this is why i wrote it is of no value. It does not matter what is shown in propaganda about who wins or loses, this does
a) not change the real hard facts, and
b) it does not change reality. Someone who loses can be really morally right, or right by international law, or bay any fair observation.
Being crushed by superior forces does say nothing about the moral implication. The one who wins is not automatically morally right.
But the basic understanding of facts and pity or feeling for victims can only show us one way. And any propaganda regardless which side it comes from, cannot throw us off the path of what is obvioulsly, and by any human standard, right.

Russia, but especially Putin does not understand this. In his view the stronger is always "right". But what is worse is that making a public statement by the (self-appointed) "president" (read: autocrat/dictator) is being believed by "his" [sic!] (lmao) people. Most probably not voluntarily of course. No one who does not have to fear Putin (read: outside Russia) will agree to his view of things if he or she has a clear conscience and some education.
And russian people who protest are either incarcerated or too afraid for standing up. I do not blame them, but i hoped there would be more, enough to get rid of this 19th century mafia thug. Easily said from here, I know.
Yes I also despise the US, as i despise german politicians. But can someone like Putin, Xi Jin Ping or Kim Jong-un be the alternative? Really?? I guess not.
Lets get rid of the 19th century dictators first, then deal with our incompetent "leaders" and build a better world.

mapuc · 09-13-23, 04:34 PM

^ Well Put Catfish

Markus

Skybird · 09-13-23, 04:52 PM

Putin is just a rabid street dog who has bitten into a piece of meat that doesn't belong to him, but which he desperately wants. In the meantime, it now is also a matter of personal survival for him. He cannot accept peace and retreat without losing his own life. The continuation of the war, active or frozen, is in his survival interest. We, and I too, have believed for twenty years that he is more complex and complicated. But a backyard thug is not complicated. Only brutal to individually different degrees. This one is extremely brutal. And there are possible successors to him that are even worse than he is.

The Russian assault on Ukraine is not just a war. Its the beginning of an even bigger desaster. The longer we refuse this perception, the worse it will become. For all Europe.

We must get ready for the worst. We must prepare, brace ourselves.

And everbody is refusing that. Instead: childish puppet-plays in the capitals of the Western world.

mapuc · 09-14-23, 07:26 AM

Markus

mapuc · 09-14-23, 09:46 AM

Markus

Exocet25fr · 09-14-23, 12:58 PM

Huge propaganda here too....!

09-13-23, 01:26 PM	#931
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,540 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

09-13-23, 02:00 PM	#932
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,767 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Found this funny "Putin never lies. Here's the proof": https://twitter.com/i/status/1700222712809935133 __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

09-13-23, 02:58 PM	#935
tonschk Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,200 Downloads: 172 Uploads: 0	Senator DROPS Ukraine, TRUTH BOMBS In HISTORIC SPEECH, STOPPING UKRAINE SUPPORT __________________ What we do in life echoes in Eternity

09-13-23, 03:08 PM	#936
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,767 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	This is not the 19th century, but some people have to be reminded. There is no point in declaring who might drop or support Ukraine. Or which side has more "wins" or the upper hand. Who cares about the person posting this (or his, probably paid for) opinion? The right action against dictator Putin and support of Ukraine in the current situation is obvious and humanely mandatory. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

09-13-23, 03:22 PM	#937
tonschk Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,200 Downloads: 172 Uploads: 0	FORMER UKRAINE OFFICIALS EXPOSE ZELENSKYY CORRUPTION: DRUG ADDICT ZELENSKYY SELLS U.S. WEAPONS https://www.bitchute.com/video/qRlDuKQW7JVX/ __________________ What we do in life echoes in Eternity

09-13-23, 03:29 PM	#938
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,767 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	"Bitchute" is complete nonsense and propaganda just like Fox news, has been proven here for a hundred times. But the best part is that just of all Putin accuses the west to "install" a jew to fight Russia. While the Russia helped to liberate the jews subdued by nazis in WW2. And Putin calls jews nazis This is such twisted and concocted history it would make an angel vomit __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

09-13-23, 04:03 PM	#940
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,767 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Hello Markus, yes this is why i wrote it is of no value. It does not matter what is shown in propaganda about who wins or loses, this does a) not change the real hard facts, and b) it does not change reality. Someone who loses can be really morally right, or right by international law, or bay any fair observation. Being crushed by superior forces does say nothing about the moral implication. The one who wins is not automatically morally right. But the basic understanding of facts and pity or feeling for victims can only show us one way. And any propaganda regardless which side it comes from, cannot throw us off the path of what is obvioulsly, and by any human standard, right. Russia, but especially Putin does not understand this. In his view the stronger is always "right". But what is worse is that making a public statement by the (self-appointed) "president" (read: autocrat/dictator) is being believed by "his" [sic!] (lmao) people. Most probably not voluntarily of course. No one who does not have to fear Putin (read: outside Russia) will agree to his view of things if he or she has a clear conscience and some education. And russian people who protest are either incarcerated or too afraid for standing up. I do not blame them, but i hoped there would be more, enough to get rid of this 19th century mafia thug. Easily said from here, I know. Yes I also despise the US, as i despise german politicians. But can someone like Putin, Xi Jin Ping or Kim Jong-un be the alternative? Really?? I guess not. Lets get rid of the 19th century dictators first, then deal with our incompetent "leaders" and build a better world. __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 09-13-23 at 04:19 PM.*

09-13-23, 04:34 PM	#941
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,540 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	^ Well Put Catfish Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

09-13-23, 04:52 PM	#942
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,637 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Putin is just a rabid street dog who has bitten into a piece of meat that doesn't belong to him, but which he desperately wants. In the meantime, it now is also a matter of personal survival for him. He cannot accept peace and retreat without losing his own life. The continuation of the war, active or frozen, is in his survival interest. We, and I too, have believed for twenty years that he is more complex and complicated. But a backyard thug is not complicated. Only brutal to individually different degrees. This one is extremely brutal. And there are possible successors to him that are even worse than he is. The Russian assault on Ukraine is not just a war. Its the beginning of an even bigger desaster. The longer we refuse this perception, the worse it will become. For all Europe. We must get ready for the worst. We must prepare, brace ourselves. And everbody is refusing that. Instead: childish puppet-plays in the capitals of the Western world. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-14-23, 07:26 AM	#943
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,540 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Markus __________________ My little lovely female cat

09-14-23, 09:46 AM	#944
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09-14-23, 12:58 PM	#945
Exocet25fr Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Paris/France Posts: 1,135 Downloads: 255 Uploads: 0	Huge propaganda here too....! __________________ \"Le Triomphant\" listens you !