UK Politics Thread

[Jimbuna]

Quite self-explanatary.

[Skybird]

My money is on the green little box in the bottom right corner. The agony will continue. Because nothing has changed: nobody baked a cake in the past two years, but everybody wants to keep it while eating it.



The EU operetta parliament may be against allowing it, but I am not in knowledge of whether they can overrrule Juncker & gang.

[Jimbuna]

I agree the outcome of the vote ie an extension but I think ultimately we will remain.

[Jimbuna]

May loses again but by a lower margin of 149 to last time (230), still a significant number though.

Tomorrows vote will be about a no deal Brexit and that result is already obvious, Parliament having already previously rejecting that option.

Should the above happen then Thursday will be a deal for an extension which puts us well and truly under the EU thumb and begs the question how did we get into this position?

The answer to that I'm afraid rests on the politicians shoulders solely.

I predict May will stand down sooner rather than later now.

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

May loses again but by a lower margin of 149 to last time (230), still a significant number though.

Tomorrows vote will be about a no deal Brexit and that result is already obvious, Parliament having already previously rejecting that option.

Should the above happen then Thursday will be a deal for an extension which puts us well and truly under the EU thumb and begs the question how did we get into this position?

The answer to that I'm afraid rests on the politicians shoulders solely.

I predict May will stand down sooner rather than later now.

Yup, 2 years of nothing.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by JU_88

Yup, 2 years of nothing.

I doubt the folk in Westminster will ever be allowed to forget their actions and reprehensible stupidity.

[Catfish]

I have no desire to comment any of this.. who do you think will follow after May?

[Jimbuna]

I don't think any of the current senior figures would want to pick up where she leaves off but I will add....anyone but Steptoe.

[skidman]

how did we get into this position?

haughtiness, dupability, dopiness

[mapuc]

In the Danish news some hours ago I saw this Corbyn speaking in the English Parliament.

Is he against this brexit deal for what it is or is he fishing for an extra election ? Which he said in his statement.

Markus

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by mapuc

In the Danish news some hours ago I saw this Corbyn speaking in the English Parliament.

Is he against this brexit deal for what it is or is he fishing for an extra election ? Which he said in his statement.

Markus

Well in way, he'd be crazy not to 'fish' at this point in time. He probably wont get another opportunity as good as this to take power. on the otherhand -
Would he and his kabal be any more competent at handling this? Not likely. So even if he got there, it could quickly become his undoing.
Same goes for who ever takes over from May - if she goes.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

The answer to that I'm afraid rests on the politicians shoulders solely.

Who voted for these political "elites", and legitimises them time and again, and with enthusiastic servility subordinates himself under their claim for command and power although history could and should teach everybody for the better...?

Politicians and politics are a symptom only for the state of mind and character the population lives in. Politicians are neither a God-given, nor do they have any natural fundament for their claim to be set above anyone else and living at his/their cost.

We are too many. No one can overwacth it anymore, it is all too big and too much of everything and too complex. Because we are way too many, in every aspect and meaning imaginable. And that is where any attempt to solve things and heal the world must start. Which means short-sighted short cuts and quick solutions will not work. We talk about a decades- and generations project. A jump in intellectual evolution. And as always wioth evoluution, this our species either adapts to the need, or goes extinct. No gain, no loss, just things in motion there.

Its like with interstellar travel. Such travels will need to be thought of not in terms of individual's lifespans, but generations'. Which gives a whole new meaning to the sentence: the cause weighs heavier than the individual life.

The dome of Cologne was build over centuries and generations as well. Compared to the minds of those ancient people nevertheless tarting with it, modern, super-accelerated man has the awareness span of an ant only.

Politicians are not the cause. They are a symptom (that additionally feeds back on itself, however).

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Catfish

I have no desire to comment any of this.. who do you think will follow after May?

You.

Good evening all well I got a text from a mate saying the bitch lost and refused to step down. Well am I that surprised no.

Up the revolution follow Skybird into a new and better age. Let's get the ball rolling here in the UK and onwards to Europe.

Moving on as Jim pointed out the next vote is for a no deal and they will reject that. And finally the last vote to drag this horror show out you bet your arse they will.

[mapuc]

A question

Would an election change the fact that the people in UK voted for a brexit ?

Would the next government do otherwise, like throw this brexit into the bin and let UK stay in EU ?

I....'m just wondering, what can Corbyn do what May couldn't archive during these Brexit-negotiation.



Markus

[JU_88]

Originally Posted by mapuc

A question

Would an election change the fact that the people in UK voted for a brexit ?

Would the next government do otherwise, like throw this brexit into the bin and let UK stay in EU ?

I....'m just wondering, what can Corbyn do what May couldn't archive during these Brexit-negotiation.



Markus

No - it wont make any difference. Corbyns ideas on negotiating with the EU are even worse than May's. Hes a nice guy with some silly ideas and like his Tory counter part, he is virtually spineless. Hes a bit of brexiteer who is forced to bend the knee to his overwhelmingly Pro Remain Party members and supporters.

We are heading for a delay and eventual deal that'll gives us the worst of both Leave and Remain outcomes at the same time.
Out best option now would be leave with No deal, our second best option would be scrap Brexit all together and just remain, but we are heading for the worst option of being caught in some kind of Limbo with most of the EUs rules will still in apply to us, we still pay for membership but we have no voice at the table, screwed our selves basically.
I think the first two options are near impossible now.