US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by August

This is the shining paragon of the Left:

Lol, @1:09, he would be delighted to compare IQs. haha, man, he was trying to "take it outside" even back then.

Funny how he explains all his lies as "his memory failed him"; that was 30 years ago, long before he became senile.

Seriously, if someone had done the work and gotten three degrees, it would be impossible to forget that. For Biden to lie outright about his academic record, unbelievable. And this is who the liberals want us to make President? He's worse than Trump.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Strykr

Does it REALLY make sense that Trump is a super secret Russian agent ???

Nobody ever said he is an agent.



An agent knows that he is an agent, spy, agent provcateur. Trump just is so ahndicapped and so full of himself that he would not npotice if he gets grabbed by his nose and led around.


However, the real relevance of the claim that Russia interferes wiuth getting him elected and now reelected, is an interest that is independent from t he person and name. Its to getcivil societ yin the US deeply polkiaruzed and by that: divided. By that, indifference for glbal affairs gets sown, and the Us interest to intertfere with russian interests, gets muted (dso the calculation). That the name/the man is intelllectually weak and sufcfers from amssive relaity distortions, just helps this.


Its good old textbook operatons from the cold war. And very many Americans do not realise it or do not want to realise it.



In plain English: the US is under Russian attack.



Its all already world war 3, gentlemen. Why waiting for bullets getting fired and bombs gettign dropped? You can cast as much if not mroe havoc by co9bery operaitons, PR wars, public opinion manipulation, media war. And China and Rzussia are attackign since many years alrerady. The war is hot. America is busy with itself (mission goal accomplished). Britain is being disunited with the EU. This weakens NATO. This weakens the EU.



Trump is just a pawn on the board, himself too stupid to realise he is just a pawn. He thinks he is King, Queen, Rook and bishop all in one. And all pawns there are, of course. Both colours. He is all over the board, on every square. 64 Trump pieces on a chessboard. At least so the thinks.

[August]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Lol, @1:09, he would be delighted to compare IQs. haha, man, he was trying to "take it outside" even back then.

Funny how he explains all his lies as "his memory failed him"; that was 30 years ago, long before he became senile.

Seriously, if someone had done the work and gotten three degrees, it would be impossible to forget that. For Biden to lie outright about his academic record, unbelievable. And this is who the liberals want us to make President? He's worse than Trump.

What's got me wondering is this is all no secret. The Dems must be willfully obtuse to ignore it.

[August]

And another gem of a revelation.

https://www.realclearinvestigations....nc_123596.html

CrowdStrike, the cyber-security firm that first accused Russia of hacking Democratic Party emails and served as a critical source for U.S. intelligence officials in the years-long Trump-Russia probe, privately acknowledged more than two years ago that it had no evidence that Russian hackers stole emails from the Democratic National Committee’s server.

CrowdStrike President Shawn Henry's admission under oath, in a newly declassified December 2017 interview before the House Intelligence Committee, raises new questions about whether Special Counsel Robert Mueller, intelligence officials, and Democrats misled the public. The allegation that Russia stole Democratic Party emails and passed them to WikiLeaks helped trigger the FBI's Russia probe and with it the sweeping investigation into whether the Trump campaign was complicit.

Just another lie promoted by the Democrats (and parroted by some here).

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by August

And another gem of a revelation.

https://www.realclearinvestigations....nc_123596.html

Just another lie promoted by the Democrats (and parroted by some here).

Yes, that was raised way back in 2016 as well. Crowdstrike looked at the server, found suspicious code, thought it looked like code used by hackers linked to Russia which is why it said it was probably the Russians. At the time, other computer experts offered opinions that it was not as clear cut, but it quickly became an article of faith and anyone who questioned the "Russian" theory was tarred as a Russian apologist or as peddling conspiracy theories.

[Catfish]

Ah ok. So it was not the Russians but Trump and his folks who hacked the eMails and sent it to Wikileaks?
Or are there eMails at all?
Seems the Russians got what they needed, without their participation, the US against the US.

Well then they should release Asasange instantly without that fake trial

[August]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Ah ok. So it was not the Russians but Trump and his folks who hacked the eMails and sent it to Wikileaks?
Or are there eMails at all?
Seems the Russians got what they needed, without their participation, the US against the US.

Well then they should release Asasange instantly without that fake trial

Trouble with you and Skybird is that you think that everything has to be sewn up into a neat little package. If it is not white it must therefore be black. There can be no shades or colors in between because you know, Trump.

Assange already said where he got the information from. Maybe it's time you give that another look instead of being sarcastic and yeah in light of revelations like this by all means drop those charges against him.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Catfish

Ah ok. So it was not the Russians but Trump and his folks who hacked the eMails and sent it to Wikileaks?
Or are there eMails at all?
Seems the Russians got what they needed, without their participation, the US against the US.

Well then they should release Asasange instantly without that fake trial

nobody said it was not the Russians, it could be the Russians, but we will never know for sure since only Crowdstrike examined the server. By the time the FBI was alerted, the server had been wiped of all possible clues so no evidence still exists.

Crowdstrike also has a dubious track record. A few months later, it claimed the Russians had hacked the computer software controlling Ukrainian artillery which turned out to be completely false.

https://www.voanews.com/usa/cyber-fi...hacking-report

So Crowdstrike was completely wrong when it claimed the Russians were hacking the Ukrainian military, but we have to believe that they were 100% right when they claimed the Russians hacked the DNC server? It does not take a genius to figure out that if they were wrong on one, they could easily be wrong on the other.

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

Lol, @1:09, he would be delighted to compare IQs. haha, man, he was trying to "take it outside" even back then.

Funny how he explains all his lies as "his memory failed him"; that was 30 years ago, long before he became senile.

Seriously, if someone had done the work and gotten three degrees, it would be impossible to forget that. For Biden to lie outright about his academic record, unbelievable. And this is who the liberals want us to make President? He's worse than Trump.

People live into their mid-eighties pretty easy now, but I think the democrats are up to no good on who they will let VP Biden chose to be his running mate.

Someone who almost beat Trump last election comes to mind ... plus her track record of bodies left behind is amazing

[VipertheSniper]

You really think they'd be that stupid? I mean I wouldn't put it past them, but HRC is so utterly and thoroughly burned by now, that'd be taking the piss really and acknowledging they have no chance to win.

[August]

‘Obamagate’ Isn’t A Conspiracy Theory, It’s The Biggest Political Scandal Of Our Time

And the media know it.
When former president Barack Obama told supporters last week that the Justice Department’s decision to drop the case against former White House National Security Adviser Mike Flynn is a “threat to the rule of law,” he was relying wholly on the fiction, willingly propagated for years by a pliant media, that the Russia-Trump collusion probe launched by his administration was lawful and legitimate.
But of course it wasn’t. A string of recently released documents have confirmed that the entire Russia-Trump investigation, which eventually entrapped Flynn and forced then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions to recuse himself, was an unprecedented abuse of power that amounted to organized effort by the Obama administration to nullify the results of the 2016 presidential election. It was in effect an attempted coup.

https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/13...l-of-our-time/

[Mr Quatro]

I'm glad it turned out okay for Flynn, but Obama was wrong about the rule of law ...

Come on man Flynn pleaded guilty

[mapuc]

This Obamagate or the Flynn Case have been in the Danish news and in some Danish Article.

I have taken a part from the article, translated it

"This is similar to the fact that PET had been listening to Martin Rossen's talks up to the latest parliamentary elections, inspired by a report written by a private detective funded by the Liberal Party. If that had happened, I doubt PET had existed today."

The journalist tried to make a comparison to our government our PET(Similar to FBI) To tell the readers what's all about.

Last sentence in this article

"The leftists are blinded by hatred of Trump. And that hatred is the real cause of the FBI's criminal behavior."

Here is the entire article, don't know if you can get google to translate it.

https://jyllands-posten.dk/debat/blo...pen-mod-trump/

Headlines saying
"The FBI revealed in excruciating abuse of power in the fight against Trump"

My input.
Now that I had the possibility to read about it in one of my native language I'm truly shocked

Markus

[u crank]

It is now pretty clear that Trump’s ex-national security advisor Michael Flynn was a target of the Obama administration. He served as Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency under that administration from July 2012 till August 2014. To say that Flynn was at odds with the Obama administration would be an understatement. While Obama was calling ISIS the JV team Flynn was saying that they were a growing threat. Flynn as it turns out was right on that call. He also opposed Obama's Iran deal and then made the unforgivable sin of joining the Trump campaign in February 2016.

We now have a list of Obama officials who requested an unmasking of Flynn. It's quite a list and includes James Comey, Samantha Power, James Clapper, John Brennan, and a guy named Joe Biden.

Currently John Kerry has indorced Joe Biden for President. Imagine if you will the Trump administration opening a counterintelligence probe into Kerry's meeting with Iranian officials which he did. Imagine then that an official in the Trump WH leaks this information to FOX news to smear Kerry and Biden. The howls of protest and calls for impeachment would be deafening.

One thing for sure with all his problems ... Joe Biden didn't need another thing to defend and explain.

[mapuc]

You may say...you can't say for sure.

I have FB friends who can't stand Mr. Trump they can't stand his guts.

If I should post the Danish article(which I posted in my last comment) the answer would very likely be:

In the effort to get this....(ugly word) of an President removed from the Oval Office...every means are legale.

Markus