US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Reece

Now how could I possibly add to that, Joy to the world!!

Well ,It seems that there was an old song Joy to the World and the fishes in the sea.I don't think i will give my sons up to fight and die for a word called Democracy.No i will not, When the Politicians son's and daughters stand for their parents belief and they are willing to lead the charge.And i know they are on the front and their dead body comes back home.Then it's RAh RAH and we will kill them all.

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

"Federalist Society and conservative icon and lifelong Republican Judge Luttig has just given his full-throated endorsement of Kamala Harris, calling the Democratic Party the only true protector of the flame of democracy in America."

Never heard of him. Is he another fake republican like you guys keep inventing?

[Gorpet]

[QUOTE=Gorpet;2923658]Well ,It seems that there was an old song Joy to the World and the fishes in the sea.I don't think i will give my sons up to fight and die for a word called Democracy.No i will not, When the Politicians son's and daughters stand for their parents belief and they are willing to lead the charge.And i know they are on the front and their dead body comes back home.Then it's RAh RAH and we will kill them all.

[Gorpet]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

Well ,It seems that there was an old song Joy to the World and the fishes in the sea.I don't think i will give my sons up to fight and die for a word called Democracy.No i will not, When the Politicians son's and daughters stand for their parents belief and they are willing to lead the charge.And i know they are on the front and their dead body comes back home.Then it's RAh RAH and we will kill them all.

Well it seems that Neals,Wendy will not.Put everything you type in a post. see the above. that's not all of my response.And ya know what if this neals new wendy.and you will be edited and censored.And misconstrued well i have just got to go and buy a camel.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by August

Never heard of him. Is he another fake republican like you guys keep inventing?

You appear to be getting desperate.
https://www.fjc.gov/history/judges/luttig-j-michael
https://www.americanbar.org/groups/p...acy//our-work/

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Gorpet

Well Jimbo, It seems that Starmer is also unfit.Yes the UK is in more turmoil.

I'd certainly agree with you regarding Starmer.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

"Federalist Society and conservative icon and lifelong Republican Judge Luttig has just given his full-throated endorsement of Kamala Harris, calling the Democratic Party the only true protector of the flame of democracy in America."

As Dems install Kamala without a single vote. That is not democracy. I guess if Dems keep saying it it's true. Similar to OJ Simpson saying he's innocent.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

As Dems install Kamala without a single vote. That is not democracy. I guess if Dems keep saying it it's true. Similar to OJ Simpson saying he's innocent.

Now you sound desperate.

1. There is nothing in the Constitution that dictates, or describes, how a political party chooses its candidate for President.

2. This candidate will be on state ballots and voted for, or against, to certify electors for that state.

3. A lot of Republicans emphasize the US is a Republic and not a Democracy. Well, the representatives (delegates) of the Democratic Party being confronted with Biden’s withdrawal and no time to organize new State primaries before the DNC, represented Democrats and voted for a new candidate.

4. Do you honestly think if Trump had been killed, or incapacitated, the Republican Party would start over with new primaries? I don’t, and I seriously doubt it could even get behind another candidate as quickly as the Democratic Party did with such glaring factional differences so eloquently displayed by the House speaker troubles and complete lack of being able to govern.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Now you sound desperate.

1. There is nothing in the Constitution that dictates, or describes, how a political party chooses its candidate for President.

2. This candidate will be on state ballots and voted for, or against, to certify electors for that state.

3. A lot of Republicans emphasize the US is a Republic and not a Democracy. Well, the representatives (delegates) of the Democratic Party being confronted with Biden’s withdrawal and no time to organize new State primaries before the DNC, represented Democrats and voted for a new candidate.
4. Do you honestly think if Trump had been killed, or incapacitated, the Republican Party would start over with new primaries? I don’t, and I seriously doubt it could even get behind another candidate as quickly as the Democratic Party did with such glaring factional differences so eloquently displayed by the House speaker troubles and complete lack of being able to govern.

1. Why bother with primaries? A vote at all? It's called the Democratic way.

2. ?

3. We are a Republic

4. Understand the Democrats staged the entire affair. They knew Joe was not up to it. This went on for well over 2 years. You fail to recognize this. You accept the deception, lies and cover up. This indicates to me you would accept everything fed to you by the Democratic party.

The world of what ifs Trump was killed, only conjecture what would occur. Not having anyone in the wings like VP to prop up a vote would have to take place. Republicans certainly would not install a blooming idiot. But blooming idiots are easy to control. Something Democrats in power like.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

...Republicans certainly would not install a blooming idiot...

But that's exactly what you are doing and a criminal one as well.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

But that's exactly what you are doing and a criminal one as well.

Our political system has been broken for decades, but you have to deal with the system you have, not the one you want. The insiders in the political system have fought Trump ever since he announced his first Presidential campaign. A lot of his policies were good from day one, but many were fought by the political insiders all four years of his Presidency, so many things never got accomplished that should have. You can dislike his style and not like some things about him personally, and still see that he is a far better choice as President than a failed universally disliked VP, who has been installed as a candidate and been miraculously transformed into some loved politician overnight by the Media and big tech companies. It is amazing to see what media talking heads had to say about her before Biden dropped out and compare it to what they said the day after Biden dropped out of the race. It is also important to realize how we were lied to about how "sharp" Biden was by all of the politicians and news media folks for years until his debate performance showed that it was a lie, only to see how they changed their tune the second the political insiders decided to dump him... apparently against his will. We will never know who makes up the Cabal that has actually been running the current administration for the past few years, but the fact that unknown individuals in the government have been running it with Joe as a puppet figurehead should scare us all. That is not how our Republic was designed to operate!

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

...The insiders in the political system have fought Trump ever since he announced his first Presidential campaign...

A lot of Trump's insiders say he's not fit.

"Trump's former National Economic Council Director Gary Cohn, a former president and chief operating officer for Goldman Sachs, reportedly called Trump a "professional liar."

Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who prior to joining the Trump administration was the CEO of ExxonMobil, in a meeting at the Pentagon reportedly called Trump a "f**king moron."

Former National Security Adviser John Bolton, who previously served as an ambassador to the UN and has worked in three Republican presidential administrations, in his memoir called Trump "erratic" and "stunningly uninformed."

Former Secretary of Defense James Mattis, a four star US Marine Corps general who commanded troops in three wars, in a statement in June said Trump "tries to divide us," that he makes "a mockery of the Constitution" and that "we are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership." He also told veteran journalist Bob Woodward: "The president has no moral compass."

Former White House Chief of Staff and Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly, also a four star US Marine Corps general, has been the tightest-lipped about his time working for Trump. But he did say he agrees with Mattis' assessment of Trump, and he publicly disputed Trump's claim that he fired Mattis. That means Kelly effectively called Trump a liar."

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

A lot of Trump's insiders say he's not fit.

"Trump's former National Economic Council Director Gary Cohn, a former president and chief operating officer for Goldman Sachs, reportedly called Trump a "professional liar."

Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who prior to joining the Trump administration was the CEO of ExxonMobil, in a meeting at the Pentagon reportedly called Trump a "f**king moron."

Former National Security Adviser John Bolton, who previously served as an ambassador to the UN and has worked in three Republican presidential administrations, in his memoir called Trump "erratic" and "stunningly uninformed."

Former Secretary of Defense James Mattis, a four star US Marine Corps general who commanded troops in three wars, in a statement in June said Trump "tries to divide us," that he makes "a mockery of the Constitution" and that "we are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership." He also told veteran journalist Bob Woodward: "The president has no moral compass."

Former White House Chief of Staff and Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly, also a four star US Marine Corps general, has been the tightest-lipped about his time working for Trump. But he did say he agrees with Mattis' assessment of Trump, and he publicly disputed Trump's claim that he fired Mattis. That means Kelly effectively called Trump a liar."

That pretty much validates what AVG said. Political Insiders every one of them.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

A lot of Trump's insiders say he's not fit.

"Trump's former National Economic Council Director Gary Cohn, a former president and chief operating officer for Goldman Sachs, reportedly called Trump a "professional liar."

Former Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who prior to joining the Trump administration was the CEO of ExxonMobil, in a meeting at the Pentagon reportedly called Trump a "f**king moron."

Former National Security Adviser John Bolton, who previously served as an ambassador to the UN and has worked in three Republican presidential administrations, in his memoir called Trump "erratic" and "stunningly uninformed."

Former Secretary of Defense James Mattis, a four star US Marine Corps general who commanded troops in three wars, in a statement in June said Trump "tries to divide us," that he makes "a mockery of the Constitution" and that "we are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership." He also told veteran journalist Bob Woodward: "The president has no moral compass."

Former White House Chief of Staff and Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly, also a four star US Marine Corps general, has been the tightest-lipped about his time working for Trump. But he did say he agrees with Mattis' assessment of Trump, and he publicly disputed Trump's claim that he fired Mattis. That means Kelly effectively called Trump a liar."

RFK:
"What "MAGA" really means

The phrase has troubled liberals who think it is a call for a return to an America before civil rights, gay rights, and women's rights. But I have a more generous interpretation, one that is truer to my experience of Donald Trump as he is today. "Make America Great Again" recalls a nation brimming with vitality, with a can-do spirit, with hope and a belief in itself. It was an America that was beginning to confront its darker shadows, could acknowledge the injustice in its past and present, yet at the same time could celebrate its successes. It was a nation of broad prosperity, the world's most vibrant middle class, and a idealistic belief (though not consistently applied) in freedom, justice, and democracy. It was a nation that led the world in innovation, productivity, and technology. And it was the healthiest country in the world. I have talked to many Trump supporters. I have talked with his inner circle. I have talked to the man himself. This is the America they want to restore.
The phrase has troubled liberals who think it is a call for a return to an America before civil rights, gay rights, and women's rights. But I have a more generous interpretation, one that is truer to my experience of Donald Trump as he is today. "Make America Great Again" recalls a nation brimming with vitality, with a can-do spirit, with hope and a belief in itself. It was an America that was beginning to confront its darker shadows, could acknowledge the injustice in its past and present, yet at the same time could celebrate its successes. It was a nation of broad prosperity, the world's most vibrant middle class, and a idealistic belief (though not consistently applied) in freedom, justice, and democracy. It was a nation that led the world in innovation, productivity, and technology. And it was the healthiest country in the world. I have talked to many Trump supporters. I have talked with his inner circle. I have talked to the man himself. This is the America they want to restore."

[mapuc]

One person in my head
It is quiet dumb
Well now it has been said
It's all about Trump

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