Strike on North Korea - Page 61

Rockstar · 12-07-17, 05:54 PM

Newly Revealed Experiment Shows How F-35 Could Help Intercept ICBMs

http://www.defenseone.com/technology...-icbms/144365/

Jimbuna · 12-08-17, 07:01 AM

I certainly would like to think so but am hoping even more so that we never need to find out definitively.

Mr Quatro · 12-08-17, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

Newly Revealed Experiment Shows How F-35 Could Help Intercept ICBMs

http://www.defenseone.com/technology...-icbms/144365/

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I certainly would like to think so but am hoping even more so that we never need to find out definitively.

I wish we knew for sure how many missiles the US would have to shoot down if war did ignite ...
not so much nuclear warheads, also nasty chemical warheads aimed a bit closer to our troops.

In all of this fear spreading, the media has started, I see very little information on what artillery shell with mass destruction numbers
could do to our side in Seoul, Korea.

I did find this interesting:

Could North Korea Annihilate Seoul with Its Artillery? | The National ...
nationalinterest.org/blog/the.../could-north-korea-annihilate-seoul-its-artillery-20345

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Apr 25, 2017 - During the Cold War, North Korea built up an oversized army—and artillery corps—as part of its goal of re-invading South Korea. ..... ever 2 minute (that's the norm fire rate for a M110 versus Max which is 3 every 2) puts each one delivering 8 shells down range before we even get a plane off the ground.

mapuc · 12-08-17, 01:09 PM

After having read one of the lastest statement from KJU where he say a war is inevitable

I got a insight-What if KJU is 110 % sure that Trump is going to attack him and his country. Due to this he have given his forces order to step up the manufactoring of these ICBM and when he seems to have enough, he will make a preemptive strike.

It could also be the other way-Trump is 110 % sure that KJU is going fire all ICBM he has, as soon he has enough of them.

Markus

Mr Quatro · 12-08-17, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

After having read one of the lastest statement from KJU where he say a war is inevitable

I got a insight-What if KJU is 110 % sure that Trump is going to attack him and his country. Due to this he have given his forces order to step up the manufactoring of these ICBM and when he seems to have enough, he will make a preemptive strike.

It could also be the other way-Trump is 110 % sure that KJU is going fire all ICBM he has, as soon he has enough of them.

Markus

Like watching a chess match, uh Markus?

ikalugin · 12-08-17, 03:37 PM

From what I remember the US IC estimate was that DPRK would be able to build more bombs in 5 or so years than US has ICBM capable interceptors for the Homeland.

They only need simple decoys and stack 3 non independetly targeted RVs on 16 or so ICBMs to get there, stock R36 style:

Jimbuna · 12-09-17, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

I wish we knew for sure how many missiles the US would have to shoot down if war did ignite ...
not so much nuclear warheads, also nasty chemical warheads aimed a bit closer to our troops.

In all of this fear spreading, the media has started, I see very little information on what artillery shell with mass destruction numbers
could do to our side in Seoul, Korea.

I did find this interesting:

Could North Korea Annihilate Seoul with Its Artillery? | The National ...
nationalinterest.org/blog/the.../could-north-korea-annihilate-seoul-its-artillery-20345

What I find extremely concerning is the fact that something must be done before it's too late but exactly what is the most worrying thing.

Platapus · 12-09-17, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

What I find extremely concerning is the fact that something must be done before it's too late but exactly what is the most worrying thing.

Something must be done? Why?

How about we do nothing and therefore give KJU no reason to commit suicide because he feels his country/regime is threatened?

We could give that a try.

Posturing and sabre rattling has not worked much for the past 60+ years

ikalugin · 12-09-17, 07:51 AM

Ideology and exceptionalism maybe?

Catfish · 12-09-17, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

[...]Posturing and sabre rattling has not worked much for the past 60+ years

It has "worked" for a lot of western ~~empires~~ countries, at least they think it has. Pride and patriotism and threats, and invasions, and colonies. And some million deaths, but who cares if you "win".

Jimbuna · 12-09-17, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

Something must be done? Why?

How about we do nothing and therefore give KJU no reason to commit suicide because he feels his country/regime is threatened?

We could give that a try.

Posturing and sabre rattling has not worked much for the past 60+ years

I'm talking about the next step beyond posturing and sabre rattling.

The guy is intent on creating weapons of mass destruction and vowed to use them.

Sitting back and doing nothing may well send the wrong message and be interpreted as a sign of weakness.

I believe Trump has stacked a lot of chips on US credibility here and sooner or later push is going to turn into shove.

Delgard · 12-09-17, 11:07 AM

This is no longer a peninsula issue. The U.N. and it's members would then be required to uphold the treaty. It is a US/NK issue in the mind of NK. Maybe rightly so...looking at history.

But, what are the "red" lines for the U.S.? I say that because NK is going to continue developing their ICBMS and warhead technologies.

The U.S. is looking to implement every sanction possible. I heard the other day that NK was open to back-channel discussions but, for me, that is just a stall tactic.

It won't be long before NK will have more missiles than the ABM defenses can handle. Then it will be remove all sanctions unless...

So...what is next for the U.S.?

Jimbuna · 12-09-17, 11:31 AM

I'd say a tactical pre-emptive strike of conventional means as a possibly starter.

Delgard · 12-09-17, 12:54 PM

Actually, I thought of that in the past, but had lost track of that.

I thought of nuke processing plants. But, I imagine that and assembly facilities are far underground.

But, that would be taKen rather seriously. Trump better have a good case when he stands before the media.

Mr Quatro · 12-09-17, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

I'd say a tactical pre-emptive strike of conventional means as a possibly starter.

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ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	From what I remember the US IC estimate was that DPRK would be able to build more bombs in 5 or so years than US has ICBM capable interceptors for the Homeland. They only need simple decoys and stack 3 non independetly targeted RVs on 16 or so ICBMs to get there, stock R36 style: __________________ Grumpy as always.

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ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Ideology and exceptionalism maybe? __________________ Grumpy as always.

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 184,161 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I'd say a tactical pre-emptive strike of conventional means as a possibly starter. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!! GWX3.0 Download Page - Donation/instant access to GWX (Help SubSim)

12-08-17, 01:09 PM	#904
mapuc Fleet Admiral Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 19,212 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	After having read one of the lastest statement from KJU where he say a war is inevitable I got a insight-What if KJU is 110 % sure that Trump is going to attack him and his country. Due to this he have given his forces order to step up the manufactoring of these ICBM and when he seems to have enough, he will make a preemptive strike. It could also be the other way-Trump is 110 % sure that KJU is going fire all ICBM he has, as soon he has enough of them. Markus

12-09-17, 11:07 AM	#912
Delgard Captain Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: AZ & DC Posts: 487 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	This is no longer a peninsula issue. The U.N. and it's members would then be required to uphold the treaty. It is a US/NK issue in the mind of NK. Maybe rightly so...looking at history. But, what are the "red" lines for the U.S.? I say that because NK is going to continue developing their ICBMS and warhead technologies. The U.S. is looking to implement every sanction possible. I heard the other day that NK was open to back-channel discussions but, for me, that is just a stall tactic. It won't be long before NK will have more missiles than the ABM defenses can handle. Then it will be remove all sanctions unless... So...what is next for the U.S.?

12-09-17, 12:54 PM	#914
Delgard Captain Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: AZ & DC Posts: 487 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Actually, I thought of that in the past, but had lost track of that. I thought of nuke processing plants. But, I imagine that and assembly facilities are far underground. But, that would be taKen rather seriously. Trump better have a good case when he stands before the media.