UK Politics Thread

[STEED]

Green MSP Ross Greer has repeated his controversial claim that Sir Winston Churchill was a "white supremacist" and a "mass murderer."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-47028246


What a trumped up little fart this pillock is.

[Catfish]

Of course it is so politically incorrect to call a spade a spade. But as you should know Mr Greer is not entirely wrong. England was never in need to look critically at its own past.
It seems England does not only love its wars, but also tends to forget about its own history. From colonial rule, to drug wars, slavery and how they treat(ed) Ireland. Some of the worst is still being locked away, to not arouse public indignation. You know this could lead to raised eyebrows.

[Jimbuna]

[STEED]

Well here we go again Brexit amendments part two, big bad John will make his selections around 1:45pm today and the debates start. Or should I say the screaming and shouting before they go off to vote.

The backstop one will be interesting as the EU and the Irish government has rejected May's rewording and trimmings around the edges. Word has it now she may win this one but it will be very close.

[Jimbuna]

I'm predicting another defeat.

[ikalugin]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

We had a simmilar vote, the concern was that if the Government had the power to remove citizenship then this power could be abused.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by ikalugin

We had a simmilar vote, the concern was that if the Government had the power to remove citizenship then this power could be abused.

I can't say I'm surprised.

[Jimbuna]

Theresa May has said she will talk to the EU later about reopening the withdrawal agreement.

The EU has ruled out making changes to the legal text agreed with the UK prime minister.

But Mrs May has told her cabinet she will seek to do that, as MPs debate her plan ahead of a series of votes.

Conservative rebels who voted down her deal earlier this month are demanding legally binding changes to the controversial Irish backstop clause.

Some Tory Brexiteers have signalled they will now back Mrs May, despite previously threatening to rebel.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47037365

About bloody time....perhaps we can make some progress now because if the EU refuse I can only see that strengthening a vote for a no deal Brexit.

[Jimbuna]

An MP has become the first sitting politician in nearly three decades to be jailed after she lied to police when she was issued with a speeding ticket.

Solicitor Fiona Onasanya had denied being behind the wheel when her car was spotted being driven at 41mph in a 30mph zone, in July 2017.

The Peterborough MP was thrown out of the Labour Party after being convicted of perverting the course of justice.

She has been jailed for three months after a re-trial at the Old Bailey.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-47040912

One down, only 649 more to go

[STEED]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

One down, only 649 more to go

That is so funny Jim.... Oh wait you are being serious.

So MayBot has won five of the votes and the one she lost holds no water and no soon she cracks out the booze the Irish PM and the EU have stated the backstop is not up for new talks and can not be changed. Booze on hold, oh look Mad Dog Jezzer will now talk with MayBot well I never and here comes the snow.

[Jimbuna]

A good night for the PM and common sense. Now we see some hope of an eventual deal because that is surely the best outcome.

I've started following Lord Digby Jones because IMHO he is one of the few who seem level headed and knowledgeable enough.

https://twitter.com/Digbylj?ref_src=...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

I also noticed Corbyn has eventually agreed to discuss the issue with the PM putting far too much emphasis on the one vote the government lost and is actually non enforceable

[STEED]

MayBot has only kicked the can down the road for two weeks.

[Jimbuna]

I'm with Lord Digby Jones on this, a gace saving compromise will probably be conjured up at the last minute.

The biggest stumbling block will be getting it through Parliament.

[Jimbuna]

Juncker tells MEPs: "Yesterday's vote has further increased the risk of a disorderly exit of the UK."

Juncker continues: "It's important the EU remains calm, united and determined, as it has done throughout this process."

https://news.sky.com/story/live-ther...talks-11622177

[STEED]

Let's be honest here DC gave us the referendum and by a narrow margin the UK voted to leave, it was us who rocked the boat so why should the EU compromise with the UK. The government should had taken that into account but they did not, they believed we could get our cake and eat it.

The whole thing was a mess right from the start and the voter will not stand up to this shower at Westminster so we have to swallow the bitter pill. Even if there are riots after a no deal Brexit the end result it will not affect the elite behind there high walls.

I think we would have been better off planning the safe guarding of the UK when the mighty EU falls and be ready for that day.