Here we go again-Ukraine once again pt2

[Dargo]

UK planes protecting Ukraine ships from Russian attack after grain deal collapse

RAF is conducting patrols over the Black Sea to deter Putin from carrying out attacks on civilian vessels carrying grain exports
RAF aircraft are protecting cargo vessels carrying grain from Ukraine, following Russian attacks, Downing Street has revealed. In recent weeks, British aircraft have been conducting patrols over the Black Sea to deter Russia from carrying out strikes on civilian vessels.

The Ministry of Defence stepped up its activity in the area after Moscow began attacking grain infrastructure in July, when it scrapped a deal that allowed Ukraine to export grain from its Black Sea ports. Grain from the Black Sea region is considered vital for staving off hunger in lower-income countries. Russia said it had pulled out of the deal because Ukraine refused to reopen an ammonia pipeline that runs from central Russia to the Black Sea.

Downing Street said: “We will use our intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance to monitor Russian activity in the Black Sea … As part of these surveillance operations, RAF aircraft are conducting flights over the area to deter Russia from carrying out illegal strikes against civilian vessels transporting grain.”

The disclosure came as the Government announced that the UK will host an international food security summit in November “to tackle the causes of food insecurity and malnutrition.”
‘The G20 will work together against Putin’

The issue is expected to feature at the G20 summit in Delhi, which Rishi Sunak is attending this weekend. The Prime Minister said: “Once again, Vladimir Putin is failing to show his face at the G20. He is the architect of his own diplomatic exile, isolating himself in his presidential palace and blocking out criticism and reality. “The rest of the G20, meanwhile, are demonstrating that we will turn up and work together to pick up the pieces of Putin’s destruction.

“That starts with dealing with the terrible global consequences of Putin’s stranglehold over the most fundamental resources, including his blockade of and attacks on Ukrainian grain.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...grain-exports/

[u crank]

Is this war a failure in basic diplomacy?

[Catfish]

^ yes it is a diplomatic failure trying to appease a wannabe dictator, like Germany did for the last decades with Putin, having learned nothing from WW2 and history generally

[u crank]

^ If your plan of appeasement is to surround Putin with NATO countries then I would say that diplomacy is out the window.

[mapuc]

Is Russia giving up Donbas and Luhansk ?

This is what I get from watching the latest videos on yt.

They have moved their best soldiers south to stop Ukrainian advancement.

Could also be they are determined on protecting Crimea at the cost of Donbas and Luhansk.

Markus

[Dargo]

Originally Posted by mapuc

Is Russia giving up Donbas and Luhansk ?

This is what I get from watching the latest videos on yt.

They have moved their best soldiers south to stop Ukrainian advancement.

Could also be they are determined on protecting Crimea at the cost of Donbas and Luhansk.

Markus

Do not think that for Russia it is vital to prevent Ukraine taking their supply line, so Russia need to strengthen the front where Ukraine tries to break through.

[Dargo]

US likely to send long-range ATACMS missiles to Ukraine for the first time: Officials

"They are coming," one U.S. official told ABC News.
The Biden administration is likely to send Ukraine long-range Army Tactical Missile Systems, or ATACMS, to help in its fight to repel the Russian invasion of its territory, according to U.S. officials.

"They are coming," said one official who had access to security assistance plans. The official noted that, as always, such plans are subject to change until officially announced.

A second official said the missiles are "on the table" and likely to be included in an upcoming security assistance package, adding that a final decision has not been made. It could be months before Ukraine receives the missiles, according to the official... https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-s...y?id=103031722

[tonschk]

These 30 minutes video contain everything we really need to know about Ukraine from the very beginning to this whole catastrophe. My hat's off to Judge Napolitano and Jeffrey Sachs. Except for prof. Sachs there is no one else who could provide more rational explanation analysis about this war. I pray to God for this madness to stop and I wish peace to all of you!

Originally Posted by u crank

Is this war a failure in basic diplomacy?

[mapuc]

Markus

[Exocet25fr]

Zelensky admitted that Russia has "blocked" Ukraine's mission through their hellbirds...

This information was confirmed by the French official media this morning too....!

[tonschk]

[mapuc]

What's up and down in this Elon Musk saga ?



Markus

[Rockstar]

Musk never admitted to ordering shutting off or disabling Starlink to Sevastopol Crimea. Newspapers and Walter Issacson said he did and once again the mob of guliable morons ran with with it.

Walter Issacson recently made this statement: “To clarify on the Starlink issue: the Ukrainians THOUGHT coverage was enabled all the way to Crimea, but it was not. They asked Musk to enable it for their drone sub attack on the Russian fleet. Musk did not enable it, because he thought, probably correctly, that would cause a major war.’

And you know what? I don’t even believe Issacson’s so called clarification either. Number one Starlink is a civilian satellite system, it is NOT a military one. And I’d guaran-goddamn-tee you that if Musk or any other private U.S. individual arbitrarily allowed a foreign government the use of private assets such Starlink to wage war without first consulting their own government. The U.S. government would come down on them so fookin’ hard it would make your head spin and they’d be in jail as we speak.

The U.S. government already has a military version of Starlink satellites in orbit. If anything Issacson amd Ukraine should have known better and thought of the need to ask a friendly foreign government instead of a private individual or company.

[Jeff-Groves]

Publicly available GPS satellites and open source GPS software can handle the job.
Given the Billions (Many times over!) One shouldn't need Starlink to start with.
Throw in Open Source AI? I don't see the problem.

[tonschk]

By Ebenezer Mensah 4 days ago


HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH ACCUSES UKRAINIAN MILITARY OF USING CLUSTER MUNITIONS CAUSING CIVILIAN DEATHS

Human Rights Watch (HRW) has raised serious concerns regarding the Ukrainian military’s use of cluster munitions in shelling the city of Izyum, resulting in civilian casualties. These findings shed light on a troubling aspect of the conflict and have implications for international norms and agreements.

HRW’s Mary Wareham revealed that their investigators uncovered evidence of cluster munitions being used in Izyum after Russian forces withdrew from the area. The remnants of these munitions were found scattered throughout the city, leading investigators to conclude that Ukrainian forces were responsible for their use.

https://bnn.network/breaking-news/hu...vilian-deaths/



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