Syria conflict: 'Chemical attacks kill hundreds' - Page 60

Stealhead · 09-06-13, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by eddie

Got that right, he got the whole thing from here-

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-us-...terror/5348548

Which is a CT rag.
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Globalresearch.ca

eddie · 09-06-13, 11:56 PM

I know that, but it sure looks like he is using it to support his ideas!

Stealhead · 09-07-13, 12:17 AM

Well it was not exactly clear if you where supporting the CT or the rational.

tonschk · 09-07-13, 06:58 AM

UN Official - Rebels actually are using the Sarin Nerve Gas

The US obama regime support the rebels which are using sarin nerve gas

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023591720

(Reuters) - U.N. human rights investigators have gathered testimony from casualties of Syria's civil war and medical staff indicating that rebel forces have used the nerve agent sarin, one of the lead investigators said on Sunday.

The United Nations independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapons, which are banned under international law, said commission member Carla Del Ponte.

"Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated," Del Ponte said in an interview with Swiss-Italian television.

"This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities," she added, speaking in Italian.

Tchocky · 09-07-13, 07:01 AM

We have a thread on this.

A big one.

Just down the page a bit.

kraznyi_oktjabr · 09-07-13, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky

We have a thread on this.

A big one.

Just down the page a bit.

Btw OP: Del Ponte's statement is from spring - its not connected into current situation but I'm sure you already knew this.

Kazuaki Shimazaki II · 09-07-13, 10:09 AM

Actually it does. If we accept the rebels used gas first, well, then even if the government uses gas next, well, it is just proportionate response.

Jimbuna · 09-07-13, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tchocky

We have a thread on this.

A big one.

Just down the page a bit.

Threads merged.

kraznyi_oktjabr · 09-07-13, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazuaki Shimazaki II

Actually it does. If we accept the rebels used gas first, well, then even if the government uses gas next, well, it is just proportionate response.

I meant directly connected. Did you watch video? In that video a gentleman claims that UN officials have said that it was rebels who used nerve gas not Assad's Army (video is uploaded (27.8.2013). In same post OP has link to post where anoter OP (or OP's alt acc, 3.9.2013) has posted a link to article from last spring (5.5.2013).

Ofcourse everything that have happened during this civil war is connected with each other but not in such way implied by OP.

Armistead · 09-07-13, 11:48 AM

I don't know how Obama gets out of this without looking the fool. It's funny to see all the warmongering on MSNBC.

The world basically hates America, but always calls on us to bomb or build, usually both. The Mid-East will never come out of the dark ages, I hope we stay out. It's sad that millions are homeless and cities in crumbles.

Obvious, if he does nothing, more gas will be used, millions more displaced and the nation will go to hell. The nation will implode, best to let it. Until those people learn to get along, they will continue, nothing we can do about it.

If Assad goes the next war will be extremist rebels fighting moderate rebels. I think most agree the two forces are about equally split.

Mittelwaechter · 09-07-13, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

The revolt was on for... what, 2 years? WHY not attack with gas earlied if it was a plot?

Answer me that.

Come on Dowly, is this so hard to realize?

They were waiting, because the aggressors were on their way to overcome Assad.
Running a false flag operation is dangerous.
But the tides turned recently and Assad seems to be able to keep the control.
Now they have to justify more support for the aggressors.
So they tried in spring, but DelPonte told the world the aggressors were responsible.
This time they cared for an inspection, insisting on not to try to find the responsible party.

Quote:

So?

So we are interested in kicking him out - an Iranian ally - and install a Sunni government.

Quote:

Now, IIRC translates to "If I recall/remember correctly", so, you got a source for that? I'd honestly would like to see that.

There was an article I can't find anymore, emphazising the Saudi interest on the pipeline.
But a simple search and you find more information. Qatar seems to be the main profiteer in these articles.

http://www.thenational.ae/business/e...line-to-turkey

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...ergy-pipelines

I expect you to deny honestly any validity of the information...

Russia is not interested in a Syrian pipeline to Europe, so they back Assad loyally.

Mittelwaechter · 09-07-13, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex

Not the Muslim world. And here I've just said everything I'm allowed to.

The church lost its political influence in the western world with the democratisation of the nations, but the aristocracy, the elites regained their power.

The Muslim world took a different course.

Platapus · 09-07-13, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by August

This is a copy of the letter I just wrote to my senator:

Finally, a citizen doing what needs to be done. Good on ya

Mittelwaechter · 09-07-13, 01:02 PM

^^ I second that.

MH · 09-07-13, 01:21 PM

Pipeline in Afghanistan pipeline in Syria...****ing pipelines everywhere.
...and great failed social social engineering project in Iraq...its all about
pipelines as well....yeah.

God dammit i want piece of the pie.

09-07-13, 06:58 AM	#889
tonschk Admiral Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,200 Downloads: 172 Uploads: 0	UN Official - Rebels are using Sarin Nerve Gas UN Official - Rebels actually are using the Sarin Nerve Gas The US obama regime support the rebels which are using sarin nerve gas http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023591720 (Reuters) - U.N. human rights investigators have gathered testimony from casualties of Syria's civil war and medical staff indicating that rebel forces have used the nerve agent sarin, one of the lead investigators said on Sunday. The United Nations independent commission of inquiry on Syria has not yet seen evidence of government forces having used chemical weapons, which are banned under international law, said commission member Carla Del Ponte. "Our investigators have been in neighboring countries interviewing victims, doctors and field hospitals and, according to their report of last week which I have seen, there are strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof of the use of sarin gas, from the way the victims were treated," Del Ponte said in an interview with Swiss-Italian television. "This was use on the part of the opposition, the rebels, not by the government authorities," she added, speaking in Italian.

09-07-13, 07:01 AM	#890
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	We have a thread on this. A big one. Just down the page a bit. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

09-07-13, 11:48 AM	#895
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I don't know how Obama gets out of this without looking the fool. It's funny to see all the warmongering on MSNBC. The world basically hates America, but always calls on us to bomb or build, usually both. The Mid-East will never come out of the dark ages, I hope we stay out. It's sad that millions are homeless and cities in crumbles. Obvious, if he does nothing, more gas will be used, millions more displaced and the nation will go to hell. The nation will implode, best to let it. Until those people learn to get along, they will continue, nothing we can do about it. If Assad goes the next war will be extremist rebels fighting moderate rebels. I think most agree the two forces are about equally split. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

09-07-13, 01:02 PM	#899
Mittelwaechter The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	^^ I second that. __________________ 10 happy wolves rear 90 blinded, ensnared sheep. 90 happy sheep banish the wolves. Arrest the 1% - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ6hg1oNeGE

09-06-13, 11:56 PM	#887
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	I know that, but it sure looks like he is using it to support his ideas!

09-07-13, 12:17 AM	#888
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Well it was not exactly clear if you where supporting the CT or the rational.

09-07-13, 10:09 AM	#892
Kazuaki Shimazaki II Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Actually it does. If we accept the rebels used gas first, well, then even if the government uses gas next, well, it is just proportionate response.

09-07-13, 01:21 PM	#900
MH Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,184 Downloads: 248 Uploads: 0	Pipeline in Afghanistan pipeline in Syria...****ing pipelines everywhere. ...and great failed social social engineering project in Iraq...its all about pipelines as well....yeah. God dammit i want piece of the pie.