[WIP] FX Update - Page 60

Bilge_Rat · 03-28-12, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PrEZeX

Yes, just before (0,5 sec) the unit is destroyed the game freezes and I have no lag until just before the next unit is destroyed. I do not notice lag when the unit gets hit and start burning, exploding, etc, just before it is officially destroyed. I also tried to turn down the particle density all the way to the left but it's not working. I feel like its not a graphical lag but has something to do with whatever the game is doing just before a ship gets destroyed...

did you try the anti-lag tweaker (post 867), that made the biggest diference for me or the change suggested by Echolot in post 868?

Rubini · 03-28-12, 04:31 PM

Well, i have a GTX560 and sometimes have the big explosions lag using FX mod anyway as I said. Win 7 8gb i5 2500k. It's just a feedback, not a big problem indeed.

PrEZeX · 03-28-12, 04:45 PM

Yes, I have the antilag installed and tried different FPS and framesahead settings. I have now also tried turning down all the graphical settings to the lowest possible, but I still get this lag and the strange cursor unattachment.

Echolot · 03-28-12, 04:49 PM

I can remember the mouse cursor thing happens to me too sometime ago.
IRC it has to do with a wrong mod order but can't remember what mods.

Try enable mods one by one and check the mouse.

PrEZeX · 03-28-12, 04:55 PM

The problem is that I'm using MegaMod and it's impossible to change the order of the mods in it...

Echolot · 03-28-12, 05:03 PM

Have you asked in the MegaMods thread, maybe other users have the same issues?

IMO it has nothing to do with mouse device or drivers, with other mods (order) the problem was not there.

PrEZeX · 03-28-12, 05:10 PM

I understand, maybe I can try to make my own mod list... It would be more simple to change everything...

misha1967 · 03-29-12, 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

That being said, Nvidia drivers are not perfect either, they just have a different set of problems.

Tell me about it!

I fell for the temptation to install the all new, WHQL certified 296.10 drivers when I upgraded from a 260 to a 570 as opposed to the 285.62 I'd been using quite happily up until then.

And I really should have known better. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I don't know how many times I've made that mistake in the past so I really have no excuse. But, hey, new card, new drivers! Yay me. Gotta have!

And my performance immediately started changing from what I was used to, and not in a good way.

What finally got my thick head to consider that maybe the new drivers weren't really what I needed was when my graphics WEI score dropped from 5.9 (max in Vista) to 3.6. After upgrading to a card about three generations newer than the one I used to have. Right. THAT'S likely to happen. Of course, we all know that the WEI score isn't exactly "gold standard", but when it drops it DOES mean that you have to manually "fix" the registry to make Windows act normally since it uses that infernal score to "adjust" the way Windows behaves to give you a "better" experience, no matter what your system is actually capable of. It's really fun having to edit the registry to keep Windoze from "helpfully" adjusting your screen resolution while viewing slide shows back to 1990s standards. Not.

More importantly, I'd also noticed strange behavior in other applications such as SH5 that I'd never seen before. Such as the FPS dropping to single digits when trying to drag the TAI at one particular zoom level.

So I finally realized that the only thing I'd done to make my system perform worse was to upgrade to a GPU ten times better than the old one I used to have AND upgrade the drivers to nVidia's "latest and greatest." Two solutions here: Throw out the GPU I'd just spent hundreds of dollars on or roll back the drivers. For some odd reason I chose the latter and went back to 285.62. And guess what? Everything went back to what it should be. 5.9 across the board and, more importantly, no "odd" behavior in games anymore.

And again, I have only myself to thank for this because I KNOW better. Drivers are like "new and improved" versions of Windows OS's: Don't ever use anything that it the "latest." Always go for the the version prior to that.

Don't be a paying beta tester for the twits.

SilentAssassin · 03-29-12, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Echolot

Hello SilentAssassin and welcome to the forum.

You could try to put the Dynamic Environment Mod before FX Update because it overwrites the baza_fx.dat from FX Update.

And delete the BRF 1.3 from your list, it will conflict with FX Update too.

Regards.

Echol

t.

Thanks Echolot...tried both of those to no avail, and decided to do a fresh install. Turns out I simply wasn't taking the root folder out of the unzipped file (just the first one labeled FX_Update) and copying in to the MODS folder. After fixing that...good to go!

I've got to say TDW, you have some skills. One of the better modders of any game forum I have been to. Nicely done!

PrEZeX · 03-30-12, 08:33 AM

I made a debug log when the game crashes, don't know if it helps...

Bilge_Rat · 04-01-12, 07:48 AM

On my system, it was the distress flares that was causing lags/freezes. I commented out both sections and now have no problems with even the biggest explosions.

Dignan · 04-01-12, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

On my system, it was the distress flares that was causing lags/freezes. I commented out both sections and now have no problems with even the biggest explosions.

what file and line in the file do we need to edit?

Bilge_Rat · 04-01-12, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dignan

what file and line in the file do we need to edit?

Look at post #868 above for instructions. I commented out the the entire sections, not just "effect 2".

Dignan · 04-02-12, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

Look at post #868 above for instructions. I commented out the the entire sections, not just "effect 2".

Thanks

PrEZeX · 04-02-12, 08:37 PM

Can someone competent take a look at my debug log in post #895 and help me locate the cause of CTD?

03-28-12, 04:31 PM	#887
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	Well, i have a GTX560 and sometimes have the big explosions lag using FX mod anyway as I said. Win 7 8gb i5 2500k. It's just a feedback, not a big problem indeed. __________________ One gamer's must-have mod is another gamer's waste of time. -Sailor Steve

04-01-12, 07:48 AM	#896
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,810 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	On my system, it was the distress flares that was causing lags/freezes. I commented out both sections and now have no problems with even the biggest explosions. __________________

03-28-12, 04:45 PM	#888
PrEZeX Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 108 Downloads: 98 Uploads: 0	Yes, I have the antilag installed and tried different FPS and framesahead settings. I have now also tried turning down all the graphical settings to the lowest possible, but I still get this lag and the strange cursor unattachment.

03-28-12, 04:49 PM	#889
Echolot Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 718 Downloads: 567 Uploads: 0	I can remember the mouse cursor thing happens to me too sometime ago. IRC it has to do with a wrong mod order but can't remember what mods. Try enable mods one by one and check the mouse.

03-28-12, 04:55 PM	#890
PrEZeX Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 108 Downloads: 98 Uploads: 0	The problem is that I'm using MegaMod and it's impossible to change the order of the mods in it...

03-28-12, 05:03 PM	#891
Echolot Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 718 Downloads: 567 Uploads: 0	Have you asked in the MegaMods thread, maybe other users have the same issues? IMO it has nothing to do with mouse device or drivers, with other mods (order) the problem was not there.

03-28-12, 05:10 PM	#892
PrEZeX Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 108 Downloads: 98 Uploads: 0	I understand, maybe I can try to make my own mod list... It would be more simple to change everything...

03-30-12, 08:33 AM	#895
PrEZeX Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 108 Downloads: 98 Uploads: 0	I made a debug log when the game crashes, don't know if it helps...

04-02-12, 08:37 PM	#900
PrEZeX Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 108 Downloads: 98 Uploads: 0	Can someone competent take a look at my debug log in post #895 and help me locate the cause of CTD?