[REL] RFB/Real Fleet Boat for 1.5 - Page 60

vanjast · 06-13-08, 08:26 AM

Thanks Luke.. will try later when I get home.

RFB Team · 06-16-08, 12:19 AM

Hey guys,

Just to confirm, we are indeed working on two major mods that will do a lot to revolutionize damage modeling both to ships and subs alike. The former could be considered a successor to NSM, and early test results from it are very promising. The latter will be like nothing you've seen yet in SH4. All of this is being made possible in large part by Observer, whom, as many of you might know, is known for his (and Der Teddy Bär's) excellent NYGM mod for SH3.

Good times, they are a'coming!

Fish40 · 06-16-08, 04:05 AM

Can't wait!! Thanks guys for all you're hard work and continued effort

The truth is, I simply refuse to play this sim without this mod

Thanks again!

THE_MASK · 06-16-08, 11:17 PM

same here

vanjast · 06-18-08, 11:16 AM

Will these super-mods be a new RFB install, or will they be seperate mods? Could you give an indication of which mods are coming up.. I think there's still one more RFB update, plus these newer mods Thanks

Fish40 · 06-18-08, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by vanjast

Will these super-mods be a new RFB install, or will they be seperate mods? Could you give an indication of which mods are coming up.. I think there's still one more RFB update, plus these newer mods Thanks

Sounds like a whole new RFB version

It'll have everything that we have now, plus all the new stuff!

Trout · 06-18-08, 03:17 PM

THere is a tonne of work that could be done to improve the damage modeling of the subs.

1) repair time is completley unrealistic
2) rarely, as a skipper, do you have to change your tactics on the basis of damage you have recieved. Consider:

-damage to the hull props or planes does not make you noisier under water
-permament battery damage hardly ever happens
-depth keeping seems unaffected by damage
-there is no damage to the air conditioning/ scrubbing that would make it harder to stay long underwater

Basically, taking damage in this game should somtimes create real challenges for the skipper. MOre often than not, you die, or you fix your problems pretty quick - there is no in-between.

Trout

Fish40 · 06-18-08, 04:38 PM

May I be so bold as to make a request? I would love to see this implemented (perhaps as an optional install file) in RFB for those who also play a U Boat campaign: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=135184

I use this mod in SH3, and it adds a ton to the immersion scale. Would really like to see it included here if possible. As far as I know, the tools represented in this mod are historic. What better place to have them then in a realistic as possible mod such as RFB! Thanks..

RFB Team · 06-18-08, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by vanjast

Will these super-mods be a new RFB install, or will they be seperate mods? Could you give an indication of which mods are coming up.. I think there's still one more RFB update, plus these newer mods Thanks

It will be an all-new RFB install. This version will be kind of an interim one, but we believe the best way to keep people interested in the mod is to release updates as often as is reasonably possible. This new version won't include the new submarine damage model (things are still being hashed out with it), but it is coming along well, and it's likely to make the next release of RFB after this one currently planned.

RFB Team · 06-18-08, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish40

May I be so bold as to make a request? I would love to see this implemented (perhaps as an optional install file) in RFB for those who also play a U Boat campaign: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=135184

I use this mod in SH3, and it adds a ton to the immersion scale. Would really like to see it included here if possible. As far as I know, the tools represented in this mod are historic. What better place to have them then in a realistic as possible mod such as RFB! Thanks..

It's on the to-do list, for sure.

Fish40 · 06-18-08, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RFB Team

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fish40

May I be so bold as to make a request? I would love to see this implemented (perhaps as an optional install file) in RFB for those who also play a U Boat campaign: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=135184

I use this mod in SH3, and it adds a ton to the immersion scale. Would really like to see it included here if possible. As far as I know, the tools represented in this mod are historic. What better place to have them then in a realistic as possible mod such as RFB! Thanks..

It's on the to-do list, for sure.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

DrBeast · 06-19-08, 04:39 AM

Will the new sinking mechanism include a keel zone, a la NSM4?

RFB Team · 06-19-08, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DrBeast

Will the new sinking mechanism include a keel zone, a la NSM4?

Most likely, yes.

DrBeast · 06-19-08, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RFB Team

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Originally Posted by DrBeast

Will the new sinking mechanism include a keel zone, a la NSM4?

Most likely, yes.

Bear in mind, then, that this will work just fine on ships loaded with plain Freight cargo. But, load them with Ammo or Fuel, and you'll get ships breaking in half with a single torpedo hit. Stock merchants and (I'm hazarding a guess here) RFB and TM merchants only carry Freight, but in RSRDC roughly 1 out of 4 ships carries either Ammo or Fuel. Just a heads-up

RFB Team · 06-19-08, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DrBeast

Bear in mind, then, that this will work just fine on ships loaded with plain Freight cargo. But, load them with Ammo or Fuel, and you'll get ships breaking in half with a single torpedo hit. Stock merchants and (I'm hazarding a guess here) RFB and TM merchants only carry Freight, but in RSRDC roughly 1 out of 4 ships carries either Ammo or Fuel. Just a heads-up

I'm sure we'll get it all worked out. Observer knows his stuff when it comes to ship damage modeling.

06-16-08, 12:19 AM	#887
RFB Team SH4 Mod Team Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 165 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Hey guys, Just to confirm, we are indeed working on two major mods that will do a lot to revolutionize damage modeling both to ships and subs alike. The former could be considered a successor to NSM, and early test results from it are very promising. The latter will be like nothing you've seen yet in SH4. All of this is being made possible in large part by Observer, whom, as many of you might know, is known for his (and Der Teddy Bär's) excellent NYGM mod for SH3. Good times, they are a'coming! __________________ Thanks for everyone's encouragement and support. The RFB team is an open group and our work is open to anyone. Although we have a separate forum for development and testing, it is not a private forum, so you can drop in and see what's going on or contribute. The forum is open to other developers that need a place to exchange ideas too. http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php...647a9120c08614

06-19-08, 04:39 AM	#897
DrBeast The Old Man Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Somewhere Out In Space Posts: 1,408 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Will the new sinking mechanism include a keel zone, a la NSM4? __________________ Let the Beast inside you free!

06-13-08, 08:26 AM	#886
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,740 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	Thanks Luke.. will try later when I get home.

06-16-08, 04:05 AM	#888
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	Can't wait!! Thanks guys for all you're hard work and continued effort The truth is, I simply refuse to play this sim without this mod Thanks again!

06-16-08, 11:17 PM	#889
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	same here

06-18-08, 11:16 AM	#890
vanjast Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somewhere else now Posts: 1,740 Downloads: 825 Uploads: 4	Will these super-mods be a new RFB install, or will they be seperate mods? Could you give an indication of which mods are coming up.. I think there's still one more RFB update, plus these newer mods Thanks

06-18-08, 03:17 PM	#892
Trout A-ganger Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 76 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	THere is a tonne of work that could be done to improve the damage modeling of the subs. 1) repair time is completley unrealistic 2) rarely, as a skipper, do you have to change your tactics on the basis of damage you have recieved. Consider: -damage to the hull props or planes does not make you noisier under water -permament battery damage hardly ever happens -depth keeping seems unaffected by damage -there is no damage to the air conditioning/ scrubbing that would make it harder to stay long underwater Basically, taking damage in this game should somtimes create real challenges for the skipper. MOre often than not, you die, or you fix your problems pretty quick - there is no in-between. Trout

06-18-08, 04:38 PM	#893
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	May I be so bold as to make a request? I would love to see this implemented (perhaps as an optional install file) in RFB for those who also play a U Boat campaign: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=135184 I use this mod in SH3, and it adds a ton to the immersion scale. Would really like to see it included here if possible. As far as I know, the tools represented in this mod are historic. What better place to have them then in a realistic as possible mod such as RFB! Thanks..