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Jimbuna · 05-09-21, 01:25 PM

Carnage lies ahead but I suspect we all realise that.

Rockstar · 05-15-21, 06:51 PM

Afghan govt delegation, Taliban discuss peace talks

Quote:

ANI
15 May 2021, 12:37 GMT+10

Doha [Qatar], May 15 (ANI): After months of stalled negotiations, the Afghan government's negotiating team and the Taliban leadership met in Doha, Qatar on Friday to discuss speeding up peace talks.

https://www.afghanistannews.net/news...ss-peace-talks

Moonlight · 05-30-21, 01:51 PM

We can't have this thread disappearing yet, the video in the link gives a bit of insight to exactly what the Taliban is or are.

Who are the Taliban? | Start Here
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainm...?ocid=msedgdhp

Catfish · 05-30-21, 02:07 PM

Good video, but the difference between Russia and the US seems to be that the Taliban received wepaons from the US to get rid of Russians, while the Taliban did not need support for getting out foreign forces now.
And after this it will be all like 40 years ago?

mapuc · 05-30-21, 02:39 PM

?? isn't Taliban supported by some countries in the Middle East ?

Seem to recall some article where it said Taliban got support from..

Markus

Catfish · 05-30-21, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

?? isn't Taliban supported by some countries in the Middle East ? Seem to recall some article where it said Taliban got support from.. Markus

Yes there are some, but i take it the main support for the Taliban is coming from their international customers like us, read buying drugs and noble/rare earths and resources from them. You can even read this in the media if you know what to look for.

Moonlight · 06-20-21, 09:52 AM

It won't be long before the Afghan government capitulate, I didn't think the Taliban would find it so easy against the security forces, this will turn into a rout in much less than a year.

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The changes, announced late on Saturday by the presidential palace, come as Afghan security forces battle the Taliban in 28 of 34 provinces in the country, with the hardline Islamic group claiming more territory in recent weeks.

On Friday, 24 members Afghan special forces soldiers were killed and dozens more wounded during a fight to retake a district captured by the Taliban in northern Faryab province, security officials said.

Since the United States announced plans in April to pull out all of its troops by Sept. 11, at least 30 districts have been seized by the Taliban.

Afghan president replaces two top ministers, army chief as violence grows
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...?ocid=msedgntp

Bilge_Rat · 06-21-21, 02:27 PM

I remember when the Taliban used to be the good guys......

August · 06-21-21, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I remember when the Taliban used to be the good guys......

Those aren't Taliban, they are Mujaheddin. Just because they wear similar hats doesn't make them all the same you know.

vienna · 06-21-21, 06:46 PM

It all goes back to the long-standing moral equivocations of US foreign policy: "they may be SOBs, but they're our SOBs..."...

<O>

Moonlight · 06-25-21, 09:48 AM

A sign of desperation or a decisive tactical move, these killer militias helped to oust the Taliban 20 years ago but I don't think they'll be doing that this time.
This is the last throw of the dice for the Afghan government, if this latest initiative fails the disillusioned Security Forces will melt away into the hills soon to be followed by the government.
Many of the citizens will hopefully survive the Taliban reprisals but their will be bloodletting, and lots of it.

Taliban gains drive Afghan government to recruit militias
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...edgdhp&pc=U531

Skybird · 06-29-21, 04:42 PM

The Germans are out. German media report the last 250 German soldiers have been flown out this evening, with several transports, to Tiflis, Georgia.

On the height of the engagement, up to 1300 BW soldiers were based in afghansitan. The 20 years costed the lives of 59, 35 of them in combat and bomb assaults.

A female veteran whose interview I red some weeks ago, said just this for a closing: "Heck, we have been so naive to even get engaged there. So many illusions!"

Skybird · 07-02-21, 06:07 PM

Bagram airbase fully evacuated and handed over to the Afghan army. Last major troop contingents of ISAF are out. Plunderers already inside the perimeter, it is reported. Tells something of the success of the training programs westenr armies ran on Afghan forces. Not that this enlightenment comes as something new.

No way to weasel around it: its another, the latest strategic defeat in a string of such defeats. Calling it differently, is glossing over it.

Western intelligence service take bets whether the Taliban take 6 months to capture Kabul - or even less. That the Afhghan government gets toppled, is almost taken for granted.

Bad for the civilian population, especially the females. But the outcome was predictable, and staying longer would not have changed anything. Not changing while lasting. Change only lasting under the guard of the bajonets, is no change, just a deadlock.

No longer trapped in the Afghan maze, but out of it - finally.

August · 07-02-21, 10:09 PM

Nobody is talking about what happens to all the Afghanis who worked for us over the years.

Buddahaid · 07-03-21, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by August

Nobody is talking about what happens to all the Afghanis who worked for us over the years.

Not so.

05-09-21, 01:25 PM	#76
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Moonlight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,523 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	We can't have this thread disappearing yet, the video in the link gives a bit of insight to exactly what the Taliban is or are. Who are the Taliban? \| Start Here https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainm...?ocid=msedgdhp __________________

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Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,800 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Good video, but the difference between Russia and the US seems to be that the Taliban received wepaons from the US to get rid of Russians, while the Taliban did not need support for getting out foreign forces now. And after this it will be all like 40 years ago? __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

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Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,856 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	I remember when the Taliban used to be the good guys...... __________________

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vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,720 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	It all goes back to the long-standing moral equivocations of US foreign policy: "they may be SOBs, but they're our SOBs..."... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

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Moonlight Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Fookhall Copse Posts: 2,523 Downloads: 184 Uploads: 0	A sign of desperation or a decisive tactical move, these killer militias helped to oust the Taliban 20 years ago but I don't think they'll be doing that this time. This is the last throw of the dice for the Afghan government, if this latest initiative fails the disillusioned Security Forces will melt away into the hills soon to be followed by the government. Many of the citizens will hopefully survive the Taliban reprisals but their will be bloodletting, and lots of it. Taliban gains drive Afghan government to recruit militias https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...edgdhp&pc=U531 __________________

06-29-21, 04:42 PM	#87
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,710 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The Germans are out. German media report the last 250 German soldiers have been flown out this evening, with several transports, to Tiflis, Georgia. On the height of the engagement, up to 1300 BW soldiers were based in afghansitan. The 20 years costed the lives of 59, 35 of them in combat and bomb assaults. A female veteran whose interview I red some weeks ago, said just this for a closing: "Heck, we have been so naive to even get engaged there. So many illusions!" __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-02-21, 06:07 PM	#88
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,710 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Bagram airbase fully evacuated and handed over to the Afghan army. Last major troop contingents of ISAF are out. Plunderers already inside the perimeter, it is reported. Tells something of the success of the training programs westenr armies ran on Afghan forces. Not that this enlightenment comes as something new. No way to weasel around it: its another, the latest strategic defeat in a string of such defeats. Calling it differently, is glossing over it. Western intelligence service take bets whether the Taliban take 6 months to capture Kabul - or even less. That the Afhghan government gets toppled, is almost taken for granted. Bad for the civilian population, especially the females. But the outcome was predictable, and staying longer would not have changed anything. Not changing while lasting. Change only lasting under the guard of the bajonets, is no change, just a deadlock. No longer trapped in the Afghan maze, but out of it - finally. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-02-21, 10:09 PM	#89
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,226 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Nobody is talking about what happens to all the Afghanis who worked for us over the years. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.