Russian Politics Thread - Page 6

Catfish · 08-11-19, 03:47 PM

Thanks, this is interesting.
But I still think that nuclear power as mankind uses it is inherent unsafe, and no one knows how to deal with the remnants. B.t.w. Chernobyl is said by experts to have killed between 43 and 14000 People, indirectly of course and hard to prove.
“The risk projections suggest that by now Chernobyl may have caused about 1,000 cases of thyroid cancer and 4,000 cases of other cancers in Europe, representing about 0.01% of all incident cancers since the accident,” it reads. “Models predict that by 2065 about 16,000 (95% UI 3,400–72,000) cases of thyroid cancer and 25,000 (95% UI 11,000–59,000) cases of other cancers may be expected due to radiation from the accident.”
Meaning if one country plays with radio nuclides, the whole world will have to face the consequences of incompetence.

Not entirely off topic, what happened in Archangelsk two days ago? Radioactive spike?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...test-explosion
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49295521

Seems Rosatom is involved. I really had to laugh when i heard that the european branch of "Rosatom" is called "NUKEM". How fitting.

ikalugin · 08-11-19, 07:01 PM

Coal power plants release more radioactivity per MW of installed power due to them constantly burning large quantities of coal which contain small proportions of radioactive materials. But as with the frogs people do not notice themselves being slowly boiled so to speak.

As to the waste - with fast reactors you can close the fuel cycle and more or less re-use the fuel. One of such set ups would be BREST-300-OD and BN-800 and BN-1200 though only BN-800 made it so far and the others have uncertain fates.

As to the incident near to Severodvinsk - it is unclear as to what has happened there, but 5 Rosatom (well, their subsidiery) employees died, most likely from radioactive exposure and there was a small/short time period spike in gamma radioactivity in the nearby Severodvinsk but no tell tale signs of reactor mulfunction (ie no radioactive Iodine).
My hypothesis from available reporting is that they have had a chemical explosion of some sort in close proximity to radio-thermal power source they were working on.

Catfish · 08-13-19, 09:41 AM

Seems it was one of Russia's nuclear-powered drones that exploded in Archangelsk
https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/artic...xplodiert.html

Google translate:
https://translate.google.com/transla...xplodiert.html

Dmitry Markov · 08-13-19, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

Thanks, this is interesting.
But I still think that nuclear power as mankind uses it is inherent unsafe, and no one knows how to deal with the remnants. B.t.w. Chernobyl is said by experts to have killed between 43 and 14000 People, indirectly of course and hard to prove.
“The risk projections suggest that by now Chernobyl may have caused about 1,000 cases of thyroid cancer and 4,000 cases of other cancers in Europe, representing about 0.01% of all incident cancers since the accident,” it reads. “Models predict that by 2065 about 16,000 (95% UI 3,400–72,000) cases of thyroid cancer and 25,000 (95% UI 11,000–59,000) cases of other cancers may be expected due to radiation from the accident.”
Meaning if one country plays with radio nuclides, the whole world will have to face the consequences of incompetence..

As for Chernobyl Disaster - better read true experts like Dr. Robert Gale https://cancerletter.com/articles/chernobyl/ - totally proven number of victims of this tragedy is 31 person. All other numbers are fruit of speculation. Hundreds of former Liquidators had contacts with medicine of different seriousness but most part of them are still alive. And these were the people who were in the most dangerous zone. As for cancer - there is nice tab in Dr Gale's article showing which part of all possible causes radiation takes.

Catfish · 08-13-19, 12:11 PM

If you say so.

ikalugin · 08-13-19, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

Seems it was one of Russia's nuclear-powered drones that exploded in Archangelsk
https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/artic...xplodiert.html

Media reporting is a bit hasty right now.

Dmitry Markov · 08-16-19, 03:49 AM

A Miracle in a corn field near Zhukovsky ( LII airfield in Moscow Region used as a newest international airport in addition to previous three: SVO, VNU, DMO): yesterday pilots of A-321 with 200+passengers onboard after collision with birds in both engines managed to belly-land on a corn field - everyone SURVIVED ))) Great crew!

Dmitry Markov · 08-28-19, 09:19 AM

Very good and un-biased article about tragedy in Nenoxa polygon:

https://www.theamericanconservative....upon-scrutiny/

Aktungbby · 08-28-19, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmitry Markov

A Miracle in a corn field near Zhukovsky ( LII airfield in Moscow Region used as a newest international airport in addition to previous three: SVO, VNU, DMO): yesterday pilots of A-321 with 200+passengers onboard after collision with birds in both engines managed to belly-land on a corn field - everyone SURVIVED ))) Great crew!

I wonder what is the Russian word for 'Sully',

whether the Hudson River or a nice tall well-stalked cornfield after an engine-kill birdstrike to soften the belly landing...I wonder if the Russian pilot remembered to announce "brace for impact" to the crew and passengers?

ikalugin · 08-28-19, 12:42 PM

Well Erdogan was in Moscow yesterday on MAKS-2019.

ikalugin · 09-16-19, 07:44 AM

https://translate.google.ru/translat...Fdoc%2F4094365
Belorussia pursues deeper integration with Russia.

https://strategy.csr.ru/user/themes/...compressed.pdf
Russian developmental program. Not sure how to autotranslate it

ikalugin · 10-10-19, 03:06 AM

A good video, but sadly without translation, on Russia and Ukraine.

Catfish · 07-22-20, 01:43 AM

Russian court to rule in trial of historian who found Stalin-era graves (Reuters)

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-r...-idUSKCN24N0CZ

Jimbuna · 07-22-20, 04:04 AM

Quote:

The Kremlin has said it is not involved in the case. Asked about whether it is driven by politics, state prosecutors have said it based on real evidence.

Then the band played 'Believe it if you like'

Dmitry Markov · 07-23-20, 04:14 AM

I don't think his case has anything with his gulag research - taking into account all that anti-stalinism and anti sovietism in our official media. If you'd live here you'd thought that our authorities are kind of shizo: We celebrate Victory, but we cover Lenin's Mausoleum with plywood; We are proud of Soviet space program but we make films about bloodthirsty Soviet officials who do everything to hopple engineers and cosmonauts; We are proud of Soviet sports program - but we make films about sportsmen who dreamed of defecting westwards; We hate 90-s and Perestroika but we build multi-billion Yeltsin-center and we let Gorbachev to live on rent from his fund.

With all that films by Yury Dud' ( Colyma - a motherland of our fear) and tons of other antisoviet bsht which is on every corner, omnipresent museums of Gulag where eager attendants would tell you that "half-of-country-was-sitting-and-the-other-half-was-guarding", Ministers of Culture and Head of administration who take part in opening a memorial plates to Carl Mannerheim ( in St Petersburg! in a city which he helped to starve to death! )... to sue a person for anti-Stalin views or for gulag diggings in modern RF is a nonsence - (it's like in US someone would sue a person for resarches of McCarthysm ). I'd rather think that he either has done something wrong to his adopted daughter or there could be some disputed property - which is most frequent ground in cases with adopted children/harassment etc.

08-11-19, 03:47 PM	#76
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,801 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Thanks, this is interesting. But I still think that nuclear power as mankind uses it is inherent unsafe, and no one knows how to deal with the remnants. B.t.w. Chernobyl is said by experts to have killed between 43 and 14000 People, indirectly of course and hard to prove. “The risk projections suggest that by now Chernobyl may have caused about 1,000 cases of thyroid cancer and 4,000 cases of other cancers in Europe, representing about 0.01% of all incident cancers since the accident,” it reads. “Models predict that by 2065 about 16,000 (95% UI 3,400–72,000) cases of thyroid cancer and 25,000 (95% UI 11,000–59,000) cases of other cancers may be expected due to radiation from the accident.” Meaning if one country plays with radio nuclides, the whole world will have to face the consequences of incompetence. Not entirely off topic, what happened in Archangelsk two days ago? Radioactive spike? https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...test-explosion https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49295521 Seems Rosatom is involved. I really had to laugh when i heard that the european branch of "Rosatom" is called "NUKEM". How fitting. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

08-11-19, 07:01 PM	#77
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Coal power plants release more radioactivity per MW of installed power due to them constantly burning large quantities of coal which contain small proportions of radioactive materials. But as with the frogs people do not notice themselves being slowly boiled so to speak. As to the waste - with fast reactors you can close the fuel cycle and more or less re-use the fuel. One of such set ups would be BREST-300-OD and BN-800 and BN-1200 though only BN-800 made it so far and the others have uncertain fates. As to the incident near to Severodvinsk - it is unclear as to what has happened there, but 5 Rosatom (well, their subsidiery) employees died, most likely from radioactive exposure and there was a small/short time period spike in gamma radioactivity in the nearby Severodvinsk but no tell tale signs of reactor mulfunction (ie no radioactive Iodine). My hypothesis from available reporting is that they have had a chemical explosion of some sort in close proximity to radio-thermal power source they were working on. __________________ Grumpy as always. Last edited by ikalugin; 08-11-19 at 07:22 PM.

08-13-19, 09:41 AM	#78
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,801 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Seems it was one of Russia's nuclear-powered drones that exploded in Archangelsk https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/artic...xplodiert.html Google translate: https://translate.google.com/transla...xplodiert.html __________________ >^..^<)))>{ All generalizations are wrong. Last edited by Catfish; 08-14-19 at 01:14 AM.*

08-13-19, 12:11 PM	#80
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,801 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	If you say so. __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

08-16-19, 03:49 AM	#82
Dmitry Markov Officer Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Moscow, Russian Federation Posts: 236 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	A Miracle in a corn field near Zhukovsky ( LII airfield in Moscow Region used as a newest international airport in addition to previous three: SVO, VNU, DMO): yesterday pilots of A-321 with 200+passengers onboard after collision with birds in both engines managed to belly-land on a corn field - everyone SURVIVED ))) Great crew! __________________ Большому кораблю - большая торпеда!

08-28-19, 09:19 AM	#83
Dmitry Markov Officer Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Moscow, Russian Federation Posts: 236 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Very good and un-biased article about tragedy in Nenoxa polygon: https://www.theamericanconservative....upon-scrutiny/ __________________ Большому кораблю - большая торпеда!

08-28-19, 12:42 PM	#85
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	Well Erdogan was in Moscow yesterday on MAKS-2019. __________________ Grumpy as always.

09-16-19, 07:44 AM	#86
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	https://translate.google.ru/translat...Fdoc%2F4094365 Belorussia pursues deeper integration with Russia. https://strategy.csr.ru/user/themes/...compressed.pdf Russian developmental program. Not sure how to autotranslate it __________________ Grumpy as always. Last edited by ikalugin; 09-16-19 at 08:45 AM.

10-10-19, 03:06 AM	#87
ikalugin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 3,212 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	A good video, but sadly without translation, on Russia and Ukraine. __________________ Grumpy as always.

07-22-20, 01:43 AM	#88
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,801 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Russian court to rule in trial of historian who found Stalin-era graves (Reuters) https://www.reuters.com/article/us-r...-idUSKCN24N0CZ __________________ >^..^<*)))>{ All generalizations are wrong.

07-23-20, 04:14 AM	#90
Dmitry Markov Officer Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Moscow, Russian Federation Posts: 236 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I don't think his case has anything with his gulag research - taking into account all that anti-stalinism and anti sovietism in our official media. If you'd live here you'd thought that our authorities are kind of shizo: We celebrate Victory, but we cover Lenin's Mausoleum with plywood; We are proud of Soviet space program but we make films about bloodthirsty Soviet officials who do everything to hopple engineers and cosmonauts; We are proud of Soviet sports program - but we make films about sportsmen who dreamed of defecting westwards; We hate 90-s and Perestroika but we build multi-billion Yeltsin-center and we let Gorbachev to live on rent from his fund. With all that films by Yury Dud' ( Colyma - a motherland of our fear) and tons of other antisoviet bsht which is on every corner, omnipresent museums of Gulag where eager attendants would tell you that "half-of-country-was-sitting-and-the-other-half-was-guarding", Ministers of Culture and Head of administration who take part in opening a memorial plates to Carl Mannerheim ( in St Petersburg! in a city which he helped to starve to death! )... to sue a person for anti-Stalin views or for gulag diggings in modern RF is a nonsence - (it's like in US someone would sue a person for resarches of McCarthysm ). I'd rather think that he either has done something wrong to his adopted daughter or there could be some disputed property - which is most frequent ground in cases with adopted children/harassment etc. __________________ Большому кораблю - большая торпеда!