Captain Phillips

[CaptainHaplo]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

I love my ignore list. It keeps me out of so many damn pointless arguments with people who are simply not worth the time to bicker with and need to be dropped into the "phuckit bucket". Originally said list had but one name on it. Over the years said list has grown to ten names of varying stripes; and has saved me from countless forum infractions. I would encourage it's use to others.

Sadly, some people insist on quoting pointless people - which means I still end up reading part of the garbage they put out. ARGH! LOL.

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

I was walking between building at work the other day, and I was thinking, is this still a rampant problem there (around Somalia).

As the patrols and convoys cover an area it shifts beyond that area. Likewise with the mercenaries joining ships from a regional port or from the floating armouries, it just gives a handy cut off point for the pirates to adapt to.
One knock on affect of the measures to clear the sea lanes has been the criminals move to attacks on tourists and commerce in neighbouring states instead.

[Red October1984]

This was an excellent movie.

Loved it.

[Sailor Steve]

What was? We were talking about a movie?

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

What was? We were talking about a movie?

Oh...so it's been one of those threads...

This is what is needed.
http://www.advanfort.com/index.php?p...ard Ohio&img=6
Ships like that can make all the difference


Unfortunately....Indian Coast Guard arrests mercenaries.
http://www.thestatesman.net/news/196...ast-guard.html
http://www.thehindu.com/news/nationa...cle5229375.ece
apparently paperwork is a problem and different countries have different laws

[Mr Quatro]

Originally Posted by Red October

This was an excellent movie.

Loved it.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve
What was? We were talking about a movie?

Originally Posted by Red October1984

Oh...so it's been one of those threads...

How dare you start talking about the op ...

Don't you have a thread, that you yourself started, for movies you can post that kind of stuff in

These people are in a serious discussion about what do about pirates

Originally Posted by Mr Quatro

How dare you start talking about the op ...

Don't you have a thread, that you yourself started, for movies you can post that kind of stuff in

These people are in a serious discussion about what do about pirates

From the OP.....On a side note, how ridiculous is it these shipping companies send their crews and cargo into areas of the world where this could happen, and don't provide armed security?
The first reply followed on the content of the OP and it has continued since that.
now it is quite unusual for a thread to stay entirely on the points raised in the OP, but this one seem to have

[TorpX]

I saw this at moviefone.com:

Over the weekend, "Captain Phillips," a true-life adventure based on the hijacking of a freighter off the coast of Somalia, won rave reviews and a respectable box office. The film was buoyed largely by the praise of Tom Hanks' performance as the titular captain, who in the film is a bastion of heroic stoicism. But not so, say some of the crew members who actually worked with Captain Phillips.

"Phillips wasn't the big leader like he is in the movie," one crew member told the New York Post anonymously. According to him, Phillips had a horrible reputation for being "sullen and self-righteous," adding that, "No one wants to sail with him." After the hijacking, 11 crew members sued the freighter company; Phillips was a witness for the defense.

The crew member also points to what he considers to be recklessness on the part of Phillips, who was warned of increased piracy in the area and told to stay at least 600 miles off Somalia's coast (at the time of the hijacking, the boat was 240 miles of the coast). According to this anonymous source, there was not one but two pirate attacks on the ship over an 18 -hour period; only one was depicted in the movie. The first happened during a routine fire drill (in the film it's a security drill). "We said, 'You want us to knock it off and go to our pirate stations?' " the crew member recalled to the Post. "And he goes, 'Oh, no, no, no -- you've got to do the lifeboats drill.' This is how screwed up he is. These are drills we need to do once a year. Two boats with pirates and he doesn't give a s- -t. That's the kind of guy he is."

Sony paid most of the men, although some as little as $5,000, and forced them to sign nondisclosure agreements so that they couldn't speak out against the actual events once the movie had opened.

"They told us they would change some stuff," the anonymous crew member told the post, laughing. He had already seen the movie. "It's a good movie... Real entertaining."

As usual, events have been fictionalized, but then Hollywood is in the fiction business.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by TorpX

I saw this at moviefone.com:

As usual, events have been fictionalized, but then Hollywood is in the fiction business.

Can't say I'm all that surprised.

[soopaman2]

Someone earlier brought up q-ships kinda as a gag.

It got me thinking about maritime law as it is.

Why can a ship not defend itself, why no arms allowed on trade vessels?

Maybe the law should be changed so arms cannot be used offensively or to intimidate, but only to defend themselves.

Why no arms allowed?

It took the military to end this, how many ships being pillaged by pirates are as lucky as the Maersk?... most are just taken...Most are just chalked up as a loss....

What about them?

Captain Phillips was not the brave one on this, the Navy Seals who saved him were.

Why can a ship not defend itself

They can.

why no arms allowed on trade vessels?

They are allowed.

[soopaman2]

I understand that tribesman, but the minute these ships reach port, it can and will be a problem in most ports. If it was OK, to hide a recoiless rifle behind a tarp that looks like crates, then it would be done, but it is not, and we got barefoot skinnies stealing millions of dollars of freight with zero impediment.

Problems with armed merchants come when trying to come into port, the UN has silly rules.

They can even be turned away from port.. Which is why most if not all ships go unarmed.

But having a large bore gun, and a few automatic rifles will stop most piracy.

Most of them are barefooted, break some glass on the deck, then shoot them dead, why are merchants unable to defend themselves?

[Bilge_Rat]

them pirates are none too smart...

A Proposed Movie Deal for a Piracy Suspect Has a Surprise Ending: His Arrest


BRUSSELS — The only thing more enticing to a pirate than treasure, according to Belgian authorities, is the chance to see himself in a movie.

A man suspected of being a pirate mastermind arrived in Brussels on Saturday expecting to sign a deal for a movie about his swashbuckling past in the Somali piracy business. Instead, he found himself under arrest, charged with kidnapping, organized crime and, of course, piracy.

Johan Delmulle, a Belgian federal prosecutor, said Monday that Mohamed Abdi Hassan, a pirate leader also known as Afweyne, had been arrested as he left a flight at the Brussels airport. Mohamed Aden, described as his accomplice, was also arrested.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/15/wo...html?ref=world

I understand that tribesman, but the minute these ships reach port, it can and will be a problem in most ports. If it was OK, to hide a recoiless rifle behind a tarp that looks like crates, then it would be done, but it is not, and we got barefoot skinnies stealing millions of dollars of freight with zero impediment.

Problems with armed merchants come when trying to come into port, the UN has silly rules.

It isn't the UN "silly rules" which come into play on entering a territory, its each country having its own laws.
I am sure you cannot object to sovereign States making their own laws?