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Frank Ravelli · 06-04-13, 07:18 AM

@BigWalleye take a look at this site.
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com//?
As you can see there are big ads on the page that I guess help quite a lot in funding the site. They do not bother though. BTW they also accept donations, but they are not "enforced". And check also how there is a forum, but there´s a separate page for each mod. there are thousands of them (possibly the most modded game in history of pc games?)

I don´t know much about programming to help improve the search system on this site or anywhere else. I am just a parasite user. that´s why I respect absolutely the policy in this site in any case

BigWalleye · 06-04-13, 09:04 AM

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com//?

Certainly a nice site, in all respects. 5M+ members, about 2 orders of magnitude bigger than SubSim, probably due in some measure to the much greater popularity of the games involved. Submarine and naval sims are pretty niche.

Yes, I'm sure advertising covers a lot of their expenses. SubSim does solicit ads, altho the fact that we don't see many probably says something about the size of SubSim's market and about the aggressiveness of its ad marketing staff. But they do solicit ads.

The Nexus site has a premium membership available, also. They offer a different goody bag with premium membership. No limits on downloads.

Maybe you could address some of these ideas to Neal. I know the admins are always looking for ways to improve the site. The big issue is liable to be scaling. There's different business models for the Tonight Show and Wayne's World.

EDIT:
SubSim is a relatively small online community of gamers who share a common interest in naval sims. SubSim, like everything on the Internet, and pretty much everything in life, is not free. All the “free stuff” is paid for by someone. The bandwidth I am using to post this was paid for by someone, who felt that the continued existence of the forum was worth a contribution. The downloads section, storage and bandwidth, is not free. It was paid for by someone’s contribution. The mods themselves are not free. They are the result of a lot of hard work, given freely to the community by people who believe that encouraging this commonality of interest is a good idea. Everything on this site is a gift from someone. TANSTAFL

Is it wrong to impose limits on those who do not contribute? That is a morally arguable point. But no one is utterly excluded from anything, and the purpose served is to ensure that SubSim will continue to be here and serve this community. Most of us feel that is a worthwhile goal. YMMV

Sailor Steve · 06-04-13, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Ravelli

I dont think it should be necessary to force the users to donate or post in subsim in order to get the desired mods.

I don't think it's fair to take and take and take and never give. It's annoying to see profiles with 12 posts and 300 downloads, and all 12 posts are asking for help with some mod or another. I think this community would be far better if everyone who registered here actually took part in it.

Just my opinion.

THEBERBSTER · 06-11-13, 11:45 AM

Hi Guys
I decided to subscribe to Subsim not because I wanted a mass of daily downloads, but because I wanted to say thank you in my own way for the fabulous work that not only the modders do but also for the regular help and support that has come my way through the threads. Sometimes its nice to give something back.
Best wishes Peter

06-11-13, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank Ravelli

I dont think it should be necessary to force the users to donate or post in subsim in order to get the desired mods.

no one on this site is forced to do anything.

if you want to download something all we ask is that you make a post, not a hundred and not 10 but just one legitimate real post that could be as simple as saying thank you or this is a great mod is all it takes. you cant say that's such a huge thing to ask is it? or wait I think some of you already said it is.

the only time you need to donate is if you want to download a large number of mods without restriction. anyone else can simply take the time to download the 8-10 mods a day they can download and then do more tomorrow.

all this complaining about download limits is silly since its all provided to you for free and yet that's not good enough for some. what a shame some people are so ungrateful for what they have.

THEBERBSTER · 06-12-13, 05:47 AM

Well said Webster

Vivoune · 06-19-13, 03:50 PM

I downloaded about 60 mods from this site alone and stalked the forums for tips, advices and tutorials for the past few years, even if I do so on a very irregular basis it is oh so comforting to know all this invaluable knowledge and file database is here just waiting for us to enjoy and tickle with.

I remember reading somewhere that the servers cost about $600+ a month to maintain, so I think everyone can understand something has to be done to keep the whole enterprise afloat. I have just donated a few $ to help out a bit and I think it's quite fair given all that community give's me back. Just my two cents

Onkel Neal · 06-19-13, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THEBERBSTER

Hi Guys
I decided to subscribe to Subsim not because I wanted a mass of daily downloads, but because I wanted to say thank you in my own way for the fabulous work that not only the modders do but also for the regular help and support that has come my way through the threads. Sometimes its nice to give something back.
Best wishes Peter

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vivoune

I downloaded about 60 mods from this site alone and stalked the forums for tips, advices and tutorials for the past few years, even if I do so on a very irregular basis it is oh so comforting to know all this invaluable knowledge and file database is here just waiting for us to enjoy and tickle with.

I remember reading somewhere that the servers cost about $600+ a month to maintain, so I think everyone can understand something has to be done to keep the whole enterprise afloat. I have just donated a few $ to help out a bit and I think it's quite fair given all that community give's me back. Just my two cents

Thanks, guys, you rock. (deep bow).

kevinsue · 06-21-13, 04:12 AM

When I first found SH5 in the 2 for $20 bin at E.B Games, I checked out the Subsim website and soon came to the conclusion that I may have stumbled onto the nautical version of Falcon4. A simulator with great potential, but released prematurely and incomplete by the publisher for whatever reason, but then taken up by a community of dedicated people to complete it and turn it into something outstanding.

I set about downloading all the required mods with gusto to get the game up and running then suddenly ran into the download limit.

I was annoyed for a minute or two then I thought, well there are a great bunch of people doing a lot of work providing great mods, valuable information and advice on this site free for our enjoyment, so it's only fair that I become a contributor and do my little bit to help out and keep this resource viable and available. This was when my frustrations really started!
After four or five days on and off trying to create an account with Paypal, who kept refusing my credit card and didn't seem to have enough digit spaces for other regional bank cards on their online application forms, I had almost given up on the idea. I was planning to take my invalid card, buying an airline ticket with it to the nearest city that had a Paypal office so I could personally throttle someone to make me feel a bit better!
My minister for War and Finance returned home after a few days away and talked me out of the airline ticket. She then informed me that maybe Paypal wouldn't accept my card because it was already in use in her own little secret Paypal account!!

Over the years I have seen a few great (niche/genre specific) websites with all the knowledge and expertise of their particular field go down because of increased bandwidth, operating costs and lack of support and usually, once lost are lost forever and that is a crying shame.

I think that you get great value for a small donation (the price of a can of rum or a pub meal) to have the resources of Subsim just a mouse click away. I think SH5 will be around for the long haul and I went out and bought 2 more copies of the game for that reason.

I get even better bang for bucks because I don't use time compression. So if I average 3 hours a day, seven days a week gametime, I should be finished OH2 (1939 - 1945) in say about......40 years!

Sailor Steve · 06-21-13, 08:34 AM

That is a great story! I've always felt that self-deprecating humor is the best kind.

darkone999 · 06-30-13, 12:08 AM

Yep mods our great and the advise even better.Thanks to everyone.

M3PH1ST0 · 03-22-14, 09:17 AM

I have one question about the download limitations : why can't I download files that are the size of, for say, the current page(≈30kb) ?

Onkel Neal · 03-22-14, 09:24 AM

What do you mean? You should be able to download those without any problem. PM me, and let me hear what you are trying to do and I will see if I can determine what's causing you a problem.

M3PH1ST0 · 03-22-14, 09:36 AM

What I mean is that I find no reasons to restrain downloads for files that have the same weight of a web page...

Aktungbby · 03-22-14, 10:16 AM

M3PH1STO

06-04-13, 09:04 AM	#77
BigWalleye Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: On the Eye-lond, mon! Posts: 1,987 Downloads: 465 Uploads: 0	http://skyrim.nexusmods.com//? Certainly a nice site, in all respects. 5M+ members, about 2 orders of magnitude bigger than SubSim, probably due in some measure to the much greater popularity of the games involved. Submarine and naval sims are pretty niche. Yes, I'm sure advertising covers a lot of their expenses. SubSim does solicit ads, altho the fact that we don't see many probably says something about the size of SubSim's market and about the aggressiveness of its ad marketing staff. But they do solicit ads. The Nexus site has a premium membership available, also. They offer a different goody bag with premium membership. No limits on downloads. Maybe you could address some of these ideas to Neal. I know the admins are always looking for ways to improve the site. The big issue is liable to be scaling. There's different business models for the Tonight Show and Wayne's World. EDIT: SubSim is a relatively small online community of gamers who share a common interest in naval sims. SubSim, like everything on the Internet, and pretty much everything in life, is not free. All the “free stuff” is paid for by someone. The bandwidth I am using to post this was paid for by someone, who felt that the continued existence of the forum was worth a contribution. The downloads section, storage and bandwidth, is not free. It was paid for by someone’s contribution. The mods themselves are not free. They are the result of a lot of hard work, given freely to the community by people who believe that encouraging this commonality of interest is a good idea. Everything on this site is a gift from someone. TANSTAFL Is it wrong to impose limits on those who do not contribute? That is a morally arguable point. But no one is utterly excluded from anything, and the purpose served is to ensure that SubSim will continue to be here and serve this community. Most of us feel that is a worthwhile goal. YMMV Last edited by BigWalleye; 06-04-13 at 09:53 AM.

06-11-13, 11:45 AM	#79
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	Subscribing is also a thank you Hi Guys I decided to subscribe to Subsim not because I wanted a mass of daily downloads, but because I wanted to say thank you in my own way for the fabulous work that not only the modders do but also for the regular help and support that has come my way through the threads. Sometimes its nice to give something back. Best wishes Peter

06-19-13, 03:50 PM	#82
Vivoune Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: France Posts: 6 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I downloaded about 60 mods from this site alone and stalked the forums for tips, advices and tutorials for the past few years, even if I do so on a very irregular basis it is oh so comforting to know all this invaluable knowledge and file database is here just waiting for us to enjoy and tickle with. I remember reading somewhere that the servers cost about $600+ a month to maintain, so I think everyone can understand something has to be done to keep the whole enterprise afloat. I have just donated a few $ to help out a bit and I think it's quite fair given all that community give's me back. Just my two cents Last edited by Vivoune; 06-19-13 at 04:06 PM.

06-21-13, 08:34 AM	#85
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	That is a great story! I've always felt that self-deprecating humor is the best kind. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

06-30-13, 12:08 AM	#86
darkone999 Sailor man Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 50 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	worth every cent Yep mods our great and the advise even better.Thanks to everyone.

06-04-13, 07:18 AM	#76
Frank Ravelli Sailor man Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Madrid Posts: 50 Downloads: 83 Uploads: 1	@BigWalleye take a look at this site. http://skyrim.nexusmods.com//? As you can see there are big ads on the page that I guess help quite a lot in funding the site. They do not bother though. BTW they also accept donations, but they are not "enforced". And check also how there is a forum, but there´s a separate page for each mod. there are thousands of them (possibly the most modded game in history of pc games?) I don´t know much about programming to help improve the search system on this site or anywhere else. I am just a parasite user. that´s why I respect absolutely the policy in this site in any case

06-12-13, 05:47 AM	#81
THEBERBSTER Growing Old Disgracefully Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Hythe - Southampton Posts: 9,609 Downloads: 1133 Uploads: 0	Well said Webster

06-21-13, 04:12 AM	#84
kevinsue Der Einzelgänger Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Cairns, Australia Posts: 583 Downloads: 363 Uploads: 3	When I first found SH5 in the 2 for $20 bin at E.B Games, I checked out the Subsim website and soon came to the conclusion that I may have stumbled onto the nautical version of Falcon4. A simulator with great potential, but released prematurely and incomplete by the publisher for whatever reason, but then taken up by a community of dedicated people to complete it and turn it into something outstanding. I set about downloading all the required mods with gusto to get the game up and running then suddenly ran into the download limit. I was annoyed for a minute or two then I thought, well there are a great bunch of people doing a lot of work providing great mods, valuable information and advice on this site free for our enjoyment, so it's only fair that I become a contributor and do my little bit to help out and keep this resource viable and available. This was when my frustrations really started! After four or five days on and off trying to create an account with Paypal, who kept refusing my credit card and didn't seem to have enough digit spaces for other regional bank cards on their online application forms, I had almost given up on the idea. I was planning to take my invalid card, buying an airline ticket with it to the nearest city that had a Paypal office so I could personally throttle someone to make me feel a bit better! My minister for War and Finance returned home after a few days away and talked me out of the airline ticket. She then informed me that maybe Paypal wouldn't accept my card because it was already in use in her own little secret Paypal account!! Over the years I have seen a few great (niche/genre specific) websites with all the knowledge and expertise of their particular field go down because of increased bandwidth, operating costs and lack of support and usually, once lost are lost forever and that is a crying shame. I think that you get great value for a small donation (the price of a can of rum or a pub meal) to have the resources of Subsim just a mouse click away. I think SH5 will be around for the long haul and I went out and bought 2 more copies of the game for that reason. I get even better bang for bucks because I don't use time compression. So if I average 3 hours a day, seven days a week gametime, I should be finished OH2 (1939 - 1945) in say about......40 years!

03-22-14, 09:17 AM	#87
M3PH1ST0 Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 6 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	I have one question about the download limitations : why can't I download files that are the size of, for say, the current page(≈30kb) ?

03-22-14, 09:24 AM	#88
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	What do you mean? You should be able to download those without any problem. PM me, and let me hear what you are trying to do and I will see if I can determine what's causing you a problem. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

03-22-14, 09:36 AM	#89
M3PH1ST0 Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 6 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	What I mean is that I find no reasons to restrain downloads for files that have the same weight of a web page...

03-22-14, 10:16 AM	#90
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,066 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	welcome aboard! M3PH1STO __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!