Perry.."Evolution is a theory" - Page 6

MH · 08-20-11, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

ok now...that's funny.

NeonSamurai · 08-20-11, 04:17 PM

Typical, its everyone else with the crazy beliefs not yourself

CaptainMattJ. · 08-20-11, 06:37 PM

Lets look at what faith can mean.

Faith says i can tell you to jump off a cliff. i cant assure you anything, i must leave it up to you to believe that you are not going to die.

Creationism is Faith. It is a part of faith, and by definition, it is faith. If Our school children were taught that you can jump off a cliff and not plummet to your death, then we'd have alot fewer children.

However, if children were taught not only that you can jump off a cliff and not kill yourself, but also taught that based on observations, trial and error, and testing, that you cannot jump off a cliff unaided and live, then we'd have a percentage of children not jumping off cliffs, and a percentage of children jumping off cliffs. We would still have kids jumping off cliffs, and that would be asinine.

Children dont know what to believe. If we teach them that things do not evolve, then Medicine will continue using large amounts of antibiotics to cure infections, and when the bacteria change into a super strain because they have evolved to cope with the antibiotics, then medicine wont be able to explain how or why this new species of bacteria has appeared. Along with complete scale backs of development into biology and other aspects of earths history.

We cannot teach creationism. It is just about the most retarded thing we can do. If you want YOUR CHILD to learn creationism, then TAKE HIM TO CHURCH. SCHOOL IS A LEARNING INSTITUTE OF FACTS. CREATIONISM IS A FAITH THAT IS BASED ON NO FACTS.

These retards that end up in politics are churned out by the retards who teach them. Church teachings have been passed on so much that people dont seem to stray from their faith. Hatred of Homosexuals, creationism, and attacking science has been hard enough. but with these retards gaining power and suggesting their retarded ideas are sinking the ship....again. so much for 21st century ideals.

Stealhead · 08-20-11, 07:17 PM

Way to go insulting all the people in this world that actually are mentally retarded and grouping them with people who are not and have ideas that you disagree with.People who have normal mental capacity but that make poor decisions are idiots,morons,dip ****s......

I agree with you feelings about creationism but your description of faith is not very good.

Faith is trust, hope and belief in the goodness, trustworthiness or reliability of a person, concept or entity.Therefore one can have faith in something and have no religious beliefs at all.A person can have faith in his country.Most Marines have faith in the Marine Corps and again that has nothing to do with religion.My wife can have faith that I am an honest person.A loyal member of the Communist party in the USSR would have had faith in the system.

Also it depends on the view of the given version of a religion there are many Christians,Jews,what ever else you can think of that do not follow the hard core ideology.

I would want god dam children to be some how incorporated into dams seeing as they are dam children that would be the best use for them.

Lord_magerius · 08-20-11, 08:23 PM

Dara explains it all

Sailor Steve · 08-20-11, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

That would be ****ing hilarious...

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

People who have normal mental capacity but that make poor decisions are idiots,morons,dip ****s......

It seems like we have to explain the forum rules at least once per day.

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MH · 08-21-11, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

Lets look at what faith can mean.

Faith says i can tell you to jump off a cliff. i cant assure you anything, i must leave it up to you to believe that you are not going to die.

Creationism is Faith. It is a part of faith, and by definition, it is faith. If Our school children were taught that you can jump off a cliff and not plummet to your death, then we'd have alot fewer children.

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Just forgot to mention that in western religions its forbidden to jump of the cliff.
If you did not mean it literally then never mind.

antikristuseke · 08-21-11, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Mookie, let me clarify. What I should have put is that the insistence on teaching evolution in schools (along with the exclusion of any other viewpoint - specifically a creationism one) is designed to undercut faith. Teacing evolution itself isn't necessarily about getting rid of religious views, but the unwillingness to even broach other ideas - is. As for the second part, of your comment, you prove my point. If disagreement is how the process works, why is it that an alternative view on the subject is not allowed? Would not science be viewed as the stronger arguement if it were taught in contrast to other views? Why is it that we cannot expect the children who are (supposedly) being taught how to function as adults to be able to discern logically which they feel is accurate? Or has the public school sysem failed to the point where pure dogma (of any kind) is all it deals in, which turns children into sheep who will go along with anything because they were "told" something was so?

Oh wait... I think we know the answer to that...

Here is the thing though, creationism has been given a fair looking over and found utterly lacking more than a century ago. Since then the same crap has been rehashed and it has been looked over again under different guises and yet again found to be wanting. Yet you people still persist, is it not insanity to expect different results when running an experiment with the exact same input and conditions?

Oh, also, what is this dogma of evolution you mention?

NeonSamurai · 08-21-11, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

It seems like we have to explain the forum rules at least once per day.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/faq...._item_language

Frankly I am starting to get tired of having to issue warnings on this, and am going to start handing out full infractions.

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CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	Lets look at what faith can mean. Faith says i can tell you to jump off a cliff. i cant assure you anything, i must leave it up to you to believe that you are not going to die. Creationism is Faith. It is a part of faith, and by definition, it is faith. If Our school children were taught that you can jump off a cliff and not plummet to your death, then we'd have alot fewer children. However, if children were taught not only that you can jump off a cliff and not kill yourself, but also taught that based on observations, trial and error, and testing, that you cannot jump off a cliff unaided and live, then we'd have a percentage of children not jumping off cliffs, and a percentage of children jumping off cliffs. We would still have kids jumping off cliffs, and that would be asinine. Children dont know what to believe. If we teach them that things do not evolve, then Medicine will continue using large amounts of antibiotics to cure infections, and when the bacteria change into a super strain because they have evolved to cope with the antibiotics, then medicine wont be able to explain how or why this new species of bacteria has appeared. Along with complete scale backs of development into biology and other aspects of earths history. We cannot teach creationism. It is just about the most retarded thing we can do. If you want YOUR CHILD to learn creationism, then TAKE HIM TO CHURCH. SCHOOL IS A LEARNING INSTITUTE OF FACTS. CREATIONISM IS A FAITH THAT IS BASED ON NO FACTS. These retards that end up in politics are churned out by the retards who teach them. Church teachings have been passed on so much that people dont seem to stray from their faith. Hatred of Homosexuals, creationism, and attacking science has been hard enough. but with these retards gaining power and suggesting their retarded ideas are sinking the ship....again. so much for 21st century ideals. __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison Last edited by CaptainMattJ.; 08-22-11 at 12:40 PM.

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Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Way to go insulting all the people in this world that actually are mentally retarded and grouping them with people who are not and have ideas that you disagree with.People who have normal mental capacity but that make poor decisions are idiots,morons,dip **s...... I agree with you feelings about creationism but your description of faith is not very good. Faith** is trust, hope and belief in the goodness, trustworthiness or reliability of a person, concept or entity.Therefore one can have faith in something and have no religious beliefs at all.A person can have faith in his country.Most Marines have faith in the Marine Corps and again that has nothing to do with religion.My wife can have faith that I am an honest person.A loyal member of the Communist party in the USSR would have had faith in the system. Also it depends on the view of the given version of a religion there are many Christians,Jews,what ever else you can think of that do not follow the hard core ideology. I would want god dam children to be some how incorporated into dams seeing as they are dam children that would be the best use for them. Last edited by Stealhead; 08-20-11 at 07:28 PM.

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