Niburu, Devil, Freemasons, UFOs.. - Page 6

Sailor Steve · 09-02-10, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

And that cover up would be?

The very fact that you deny that there's a cover up. If you would only see that the possibility of a cover up makes it worth investigating, you might realize that if there were no cover up we wouldn't have to mention it.

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Umm... a missile designed to follow a path to it's target that then spins out of control is usually called an failure.

Unless of course it was designed to spin out of control to divert attention from the cover up.

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Countries conducting these tests dont usually reveal such info.

Of course they don't. It's all a cover up.

TarJak · 09-02-10, 11:49 PM

Wrong Steve. It's never been a cover up. It's always been a white wash.

09-03-10, 01:31 AM

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It's always been a white wash

But its a white wash on black ops so its a grey matter.

TLAM Strike · 09-03-10, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

But its a white wash on black ops so its a grey matter.

But all the Red Tape makes it Pink...

Sailor Steve · 09-03-10, 09:51 AM

You guys are so gullible. TarJak's "whitewash" is just a part of the coverup.

And no, I don't buy tinfoil at the store. I have it delivered in bulk.

Raptor1 · 09-03-10, 09:59 AM

But the tinfoil is manufactured by corporations which are under the control of Freemasons and aliens and so it must be filled with all sorts of mind control equipment...

Sailor Steve · 09-03-10, 10:03 AM

TLAM Strike · 09-03-10, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Don't cry Steve, the tin foil hat doesn't provide any protection- you need to go bigger...

antikristuseke · 09-03-10, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

You guys are so gullible. TarJak's "whitewash" is just a part of the coverup.

And no, I don't buy tinfoil at the store. I have it delivered in bulk.

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

The tinfoil is a government conspiracy! It makes it easier for them to steal your thoughts.

http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/

A few pages ago, pay attention man or they will get you!

yubba · 09-03-10, 04:56 PM

this ought to keep you busy for a bit, oh yea I copied this.

In Decmember 2009, an unprecedented atmospheric anomaly was observed in the skies above Norway.
Initial reports as to the cause were varied but eventually mainstream opinion appeared to favour the Russian malfunctioning missile scenario. Initially disavowing any knowledge of the cause of the effect, Russia eventually accepted responsibility and admitted that the spiral effect was a direct result of the malfunction.

On the surface, this seems to have satisfied the majority of people and already this marvelous event is fading into memory.
But for those who aren't satisfied with such glib and superfluous "explanations" and prefer to dig deeper, I offer the following alternative scenario ...

Let's do a simple analysis to see if the "malfunctioning missile" scenario can possibly be debunked ....

Looking at the following image, the nominal flight path of the Bulava missile when launched from the White Sea area would have placed it almost immediately on a north-east trajectory, following a great circle route to it's intended impact point in the Kamchatka penninsula, approximately 5,500 kms distant.
And yet for the missile to be so clearly visible in the [COLOR=#e0e060 !important][COLOR=#e0e060 !important]Norwegian [COLOR=#e0e060 !important]sky[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR], implies that the missiles guidance system must have almost immediately failed and changed it's path to a north-westerly direction, almost a 90 degree shift in direction ... and headed instead towards Norway !

Based on the following image, it is clear that if the spiral was the result of a failed missile test and was visible from Norway, then it should also have been clearly visible from both Sweden and Finland which both would have been within the missiles flight trajectory - yet corroborating eye witness reports from either of these countries is almost non-existent. Virtually every report and image originates from Norway alone, implying that the spiral display (irrespective of the source) must have occurred at a very low altitude if only visible from Norway.

Now lets determine whether I'm justified in stating that the spiral display occured at a very low altitude which is not commensurate with the proposed mainstream conclusion that it was the result of a failed Russian Bulava missile test.

Firstly, lets take a look at the Bulava's specifications:

Not mentioned is that the Bulava has an apogee of 1,000 kms which is achieved after the successful burn of all 3 stages.

We are now being told that this particular Bulava test failed because of problems associated with the third stage burn. Now this implies that until the 3rd stage problems, that the 1st and 2nd stages completed their burns nominally which should have lifted the Bulava to an altitude of at least 500 kms.
But here we have a major stumbling block in our acceptance that the spiral was a direct result of the missile failure.
If the spiral was mainly observed only from Norway, that implies that the missile was already off course shortly after launching and heading in a radically wrong direction and would cross at least 3 sovereign countries of Finland, Sweden and Norway. It also implies that the missile never reached any appreciable altitude otherwise the spiral effect would have been visible over a vast geographical area and not just Norway. The immediate question to be asked is why the missile was allowed to complete a 1st and 2nd stage burn and not terminated immediately a deviation was noticed ... with the potential horrendous political repercussions should it come down in one of those 3 countries, especially Norway !
It's common knowledge that all previous Bulava tests that had inflight malfunctions were immediately terminated ... and yet this one doesn't appear to have been.
So why have Norway, Sweden and Finland remained completely silent on the entire matter instead of raising a political #-storm over [COLOR=#e0e060 !important][COLOR=#e0e060 !important]Russia[/COLOR][/COLOR] test firing flawed missiles through their air space ?

Now lets take a look at whats been stated to be proof of a Russian missile launch on that day ... namely the visible exhaust trail.
In the following images, you can clearly see on the horizon what appears to be an exhaust trail and has been taken as evidence of a missile launch ... in this case the launch of a Bulava missile on 9 December.

Now take a look at the following image that illustrates the "distance to the horizon" calculation.

For someone of average height standing at sea level, the distance to the horizon is approximately 5 kms.

Let's use the above calculation and rearrange it so that instead of determining the distance to the horizon, we use it instead to calculate the height.

Now, the distance from Tromso, Norway to the White Sea is approximately 800 kms. Plugging this value into the rearranged equation tells us that to be able to see the "exhaust plume" created at the White Sea from a distance of 800 kms, that the height of the plume will need to extend an incredible 40 kms into the upper atmosphere. If that wasn't bad enough, to be able to visually see that plume, it would imply that the exhaust plume had a width in excess of 10 kilometres !!
A height of 40 kms and a width greater than 10 kms ... all from the launch of a single missile ... thats equivalent to the exhaust plume from a shuttle launched in Cape Canaveral being seen 800 kms away in North Carolina ... somehow I don't think so !!!!

So, as has been shown, it doesn't take much analysis to arrive at the conclusion that whatever was responsible for the spiral effect above Norway, it could NOT have been the result of a failed Russian missile test ending in a spectacular fashion in the airspace above Norway.

Well, if a missile test could NOT have been responsible for the spiral display in the sky, what other options or possibilities would make more logical sense ?

TarJak · 09-03-10, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by yubba

this ought to keep you busy for a bit,

Now lets take a look at whats been stated to be proof of a Russian missile launch on that day ... namely the visible exhaust trail.
In the following images, you can clearly see on the horizon what appears to be an exhaust trail and has been taken as evidence of a missile launch ... in this case the launch of a Bulava missile on 9 December.

Now take a look at the following image that illustrates the "distance to the horizon" calculation.

For someone of average height standing at sea level, the distance to the horizon is approximately 5 kms.

Let's use the above calculation and rearrange it so that instead of determining the distance to the horizon, we use it instead to calculate the height.

Now, the distance from Tromso, Norway to the White Sea is approximately 800 kms. Plugging this value into the rearranged equation tells us that to be able to see the "exhaust plume" created at the White Sea from a distance of 800 kms, that the height of the plume will need to extend an incredible 40 kms into the upper atmosphere. If that wasn't bad enough, to be able to visually see that plume, it would imply that the exhaust plume had a width in excess of 10 kilometres !!
A height of 40 kms and a width greater than 10 kms ... all from the launch of a single missile ... thats equivalent to the exhaust plume from a shuttle launched in Cape Canaveral being seen 800 kms away in North Carolina ... somehow I don't think so !!!!

So, as has been shown, it doesn't take much analysis to arrive at the conclusion that whatever was responsible for the spiral effect above Norway, it could NOT have been the result of a failed Russian missile test ending in a spectacular fashion in the airspace above Norway.

Well, if a missile test could NOT have been responsible for the spiral display in the sky, what other options or possibilities would make more logical sense ?

It only took me 30 odd seconds to work out this calculation of his is based on the assumption that the photos were taken by an average heigt person at sea level and if not then the calculation is worthless. Is there any evidence to suggest this was in fact the case? The article mentions Tromso, in Norway. Tromso is built in a fijord surrounded by high mountains. Is there any information that these photos were take from sea level in Tromso?

This calculation falls flat on its face if the photos were taken from any higher than 50 odd metres. The argument is pointless without the vital information as to the height that the photo was taken from. Where were they taken? They could have been taken somewhere nearer to the launch site but unless we have that datum we have no case either way.

09-03-10, 06:25 PM

Nice website Yubba , so the global masters are getting mind control of everyone by putting microchips into them with the flu vaccine.
Obama is a CIA operative, the same CIA who blew up the WTC on 9/11 and hurricanes are guided by defence contractors for the new world order by the use of chemtrails

You really don't disappoint do you

antikristuseke · 09-03-10, 06:29 PM

I wonder if someone wears their pants on his head.

TLAM Strike · 09-03-10, 08:21 PM

Lets see it was Observed low near the horizon in Tromso in Northern Norway... why wasn't it seen in Sweden or Finland? Because there are few heavly populated cities in Northern Sweden and Finland! Norway has around 10 decently populated Cities and Towns in its northern half around the Latitude of Tromso or above, Finland has one the rest if it is national parks, Sweden has no major areas of population above the arctic circle...

Task Force · 09-03-10, 08:25 PM

Hmm, so in the end, its all a conspiracy!

09-03-10, 09:51 AM	#80
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	You guys are so gullible. TarJak's "whitewash" is just a part of the coverup. And no, I don't buy tinfoil at the store. I have it delivered in bulk. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

09-03-10, 09:59 AM	#81
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	But the tinfoil is manufactured by corporations which are under the control of Freemasons and aliens and so it must be filled with all sorts of mind control equipment... __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

09-03-10, 10:03 AM	#82
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	<whimper> __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

09-03-10, 04:56 PM	#85
yubba Admiral Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: in a neighborhood near you Posts: 2,478 Downloads: 293 Uploads: 2	sorry had some business to attend too this ought to keep you busy for a bit, oh yea I copied this. In Decmember 2009, an unprecedented atmospheric anomaly was observed in the skies above Norway. Initial reports as to the cause were varied but eventually mainstream opinion appeared to favour the Russian malfunctioning missile scenario. Initially disavowing any knowledge of the cause of the effect, Russia eventually accepted responsibility and admitted that the spiral effect was a direct result of the malfunction. On the surface, this seems to have satisfied the majority of people and already this marvelous event is fading into memory. But for those who aren't satisfied with such glib and superfluous "explanations" and prefer to dig deeper, I offer the following alternative scenario ... Let's do a simple analysis to see if the "malfunctioning missile" scenario can possibly be debunked .... Looking at the following image, the nominal flight path of the Bulava missile when launched from the White Sea area would have placed it almost immediately on a north-east trajectory, following a great circle route to it's intended impact point in the Kamchatka penninsula, approximately 5,500 kms distant. And yet for the missile to be so clearly visible in the [COLOR=#e0e060 !important][COLOR=#e0e060 !important]Norwegian [COLOR=#e0e060 !important]sky[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR], implies that the missiles guidance system must have almost immediately failed and changed it's path to a north-westerly direction, almost a 90 degree shift in direction ... and headed instead towards Norway ! Based on the following image, it is clear that if the spiral was the result of a failed missile test and was visible from Norway, then it should also have been clearly visible from both Sweden and Finland which both would have been within the missiles flight trajectory - yet corroborating eye witness reports from either of these countries is almost non-existent. Virtually every report and image originates from Norway alone, implying that the spiral display (irrespective of the source) must have occurred at a very low altitude if only visible from Norway. Now lets determine whether I'm justified in stating that the spiral display occured at a very low altitude which is not commensurate with the proposed mainstream conclusion that it was the result of a failed Russian Bulava missile test. Firstly, lets take a look at the Bulava's specifications: Not mentioned is that the Bulava has an apogee of 1,000 kms which is achieved after the successful burn of all 3 stages. We are now being told that this particular Bulava test failed because of problems associated with the third stage burn. Now this implies that until the 3rd stage problems, that the 1st and 2nd stages completed their burns nominally which should have lifted the Bulava to an altitude of at least 500 kms. But here we have a major stumbling block in our acceptance that the spiral was a direct result of the missile failure. If the spiral was mainly observed only from Norway, that implies that the missile was already off course shortly after launching and heading in a radically wrong direction and would cross at least 3 sovereign countries of Finland, Sweden and Norway. It also implies that the missile never reached any appreciable altitude otherwise the spiral effect would have been visible over a vast geographical area and not just Norway. The immediate question to be asked is why the missile was allowed to complete a 1st and 2nd stage burn and not terminated immediately a deviation was noticed ... with the potential horrendous political repercussions should it come down in one of those 3 countries, especially Norway ! It's common knowledge that all previous Bulava tests that had inflight malfunctions were immediately terminated ... and yet this one doesn't appear to have been. So why have Norway, Sweden and Finland remained completely silent on the entire matter instead of raising a political #-storm over [COLOR=#e0e060 !important][COLOR=#e0e060 !important]Russia[/COLOR][/COLOR] test firing flawed missiles through their air space ? Now lets take a look at whats been stated to be proof of a Russian missile launch on that day ... namely the visible exhaust trail. In the following images, you can clearly see on the horizon what appears to be an exhaust trail and has been taken as evidence of a missile launch ... in this case the launch of a Bulava missile on 9 December. Now take a look at the following image that illustrates the "distance to the horizon" calculation. For someone of average height standing at sea level, the distance to the horizon is approximately 5 kms. Let's use the above calculation and rearrange it so that instead of determining the distance to the horizon, we use it instead to calculate the height. Now, the distance from Tromso, Norway to the White Sea is approximately 800 kms. Plugging this value into the rearranged equation tells us that to be able to see the "exhaust plume" created at the White Sea from a distance of 800 kms, that the height of the plume will need to extend an incredible 40 kms into the upper atmosphere. If that wasn't bad enough, to be able to visually see that plume, it would imply that the exhaust plume had a width in excess of 10 kilometres !! A height of 40 kms and a width greater than 10 kms ... all from the launch of a single missile ... thats equivalent to the exhaust plume from a shuttle launched in Cape Canaveral being seen 800 kms away in North Carolina ... somehow I don't think so !!!! So, as has been shown, it doesn't take much analysis to arrive at the conclusion that whatever was responsible for the spiral effect above Norway, it could NOT have been the result of a failed Russian missile test ending in a spectacular fashion in the airspace above Norway. Well, if a missile test could NOT have been responsible for the spiral display in the sky, what other options or possibilities would make more logical sense ?

09-03-10, 08:21 PM	#89
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Lets see it was Observed low near the horizon in Tromso in Northern Norway... why wasn't it seen in Sweden or Finland? Because there are few heavly populated cities in Northern Sweden and Finland! Norway has around 10 decently populated Cities and Towns in its northern half around the Latitude of Tromso or above, Finland has one the rest if it is national parks, Sweden has no major areas of population above the arctic circle... __________________

09-02-10, 11:49 PM	#77
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Wrong Steve. It's never been a cover up. It's always been a white wash.

09-03-10, 06:25 PM	#87
Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Nice website Yubba , so the global masters are getting mind control of everyone by putting microchips into them with the flu vaccine. Obama is a CIA operative, the same CIA who blew up the WTC on 9/11 and hurricanes are guided by defence contractors for the new world order by the use of chemtrails You really don't disappoint do you

09-03-10, 06:29 PM	#88
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I wonder if someone wears their pants on his head.

09-03-10, 08:25 PM	#90
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Hmm, so in the end, its all a conspiracy! __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"