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Old 02-18-10, 09:37 PM   #76
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Wait a minute. I did a bit of research and it seems if you pay for it, it's illegal but if you get it free, that's ok? How can that be? On the plus side there seems to be no DRM.


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Oh, trust me, you never get it for free. It's pay for play, all the way.

It's the most subtle RM there is.


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Old 02-18-10, 09:39 PM   #77
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Oh, trust me, you never get it for free. It's pay for play, all the way.

It's the most subtle RM there is.
Oh yeah, I see what you mean. This looks expensive. Gold rings? Mortgages? Wow. Maybe I'll pass this one up.
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Old 02-18-10, 09:41 PM   #78
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Actually I was thinking more of the emotional side. ERM=Emotional Rights Management.

But don't get me wrong. Jokes aside, it's the best there is.
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Old 02-18-10, 09:42 PM   #79
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Oh yeah, I see what you mean. This looks expensive. Gold rings? Mortgages? Wow. Maybe I'll pass this one up.
No, they're not in the EULA. You're sort of expected to provide them but you're not actually obliged to.
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No, they're not in the EULA. You're sort of expected to provide them but you're not actually obliged to.
Maybe there's a demo I can try and see if I like it first.
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Maybe there's a demo I can try and see if I like it first.
I don't think there's a demo, but there's a lot of preview videos around.
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Maybe there's a demo I can try and see if I like it first.
Lots of them. Just be aware of the possible hidden add-ons. A demo can turn into a very expensive full-blown game if you're not careful.
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I don't think there's a demo, but there's a lot of preview videos around.
Well, at least I have the hardware requirements covered. I run overclocked with watercooling so I wouldn't need any upgrades. It just looks like a whole big thing to be getting into. Hidden costs out the wazoo. I dunno. Is it worth all the hassle?
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Well, at least I have the hardware requirements covered. I run overclocked with watercooling so I wouldn't need any upgrades. It just looks like a whole big thing to be getting into. Hidden costs out the wazoo. I dunno. Is it worth all the hassle?
Definitely. Just make sure you use a good antivirus.
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Well, you've given me lots of things to think about. Maybe I'll run it past the wife and see what she thinks. Yeah, yeah, 'she who must be obeyed' ha ha, whatever. Anyway. She usually has pretty good instincts with this sort of thing.

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Bunch of you guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Really what is the point being in the SHV Forum if all your going to do is complain.

Most of you are pissed becuase of what UBI has done, but TOm and the DEV team that made SHV are Not UBI Soft. UBI soft is a software company that fronts money to devs to make a game and release it.

Really I hope that Mods soon start coming down on people in this forum. I so sick of every single forum I go to with a New Release having people complaining and jumping all over people that actually might like the game.

And to boot the game is not even out yet. And Most of you have said your not buying it. So why stay in the forum.

Give some people a break, I want to read about a game that I am buying and will most likely enjoy. Not listen to a bunch of grown men act like a Bunch of children.

Seriously when will we put an end to it. I have seen other forums start kicking but when things get out of hand. If you want to complain I suggest go to the Official Forums.
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What? You've already played?

NO.

NO.

NO!!!

You're only allowed one game at a time! No soup for you!
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Bunch of you guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Really what is the point being in the SHV Forum if all your going to do is complain.

Most of you are pissed becuase of what UBI has done, but TOm and the DEV team that made SHV are Not UBI Soft. UBI soft is a software company that fronts money to devs to make a game and release it.

Really I hope that Mods soon start coming down on people in this forum. I so sick of every single forum I go to with a New Release having people complaining and jumping all over people that actually might like the game.

And to boot the game is not even out yet. And Most of you have said your not buying it. So why stay in the forum.

Give some people a break, I want to read about a game that I am buying and will most likely enjoy. Not listen to a bunch of grown men act like a Bunch of children.

Seriously when will we put an end to it. I have seen other forums start kicking but when things get out of hand. If you want to complain I suggest go to the Official Forums.
Happily, our moderators are not unemployed Stasi members.

There's a lot of 'Voltaire' around here i.e. disagree with what you say but defend to the death your right to say it.

Don't like what others are saying? Bad luck. You are, however, free to object, as you have done, and I'm all in favour of that.

Don't make the mistake of thinking you can arbitrarily say who can say what in which thread. Won't happen. The mods do sometimes step in to remind people to stay on topic.

Comments such as "grown men behaving like a bunch of children" is bordering on the sort of behaviour the mods WILL object to.

Doesn't do much to advance your point, either. Lecturing people like you're their parent won't get you far, but feel free to continue and see how well it works....
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Boy you guys are rough.

This is a short, 3 page preview of a game that is coming out for a generalized readership that plays flight, fighting, and driving simulations. If I tried to make it an in depth preview it would take four times longer and the readership at SimHq would be turned off.
Yeah, wolfpack tactics are done to a fine art, here.

Welcome aboard. This place IS tough. As you pointed out, there's a lot of aggro around DRM. Was nice of you to point people to the thread here, but a pity the poll results aren't visible (that's not your fault, of course). I'm sure a lot of us would like to see your definitive statement about DRM, especially around the fact you won't support it due to the nature of your laptop use, prominent in your final review.

To be fair, I think you'll find people fairly reasonable when given more info. I certainly appreciate you taking the time to visit and post, and your explanation around the limits of your preview was great. In a sense it's a shame some comment on that couldn't have been in the preview, but that might have been making comments that would be unfair on the game (people might make unjustified conclusions about the game without reading the article carefully).

Anyway, thanks for the article and for visiting. I can't imagine this is the first time you've run into passionate enthusiasts and the somewhat 'demanding' attitude they display!

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DRM? We don't need no stinkin' DRM.

We have boobies.
Some people mightn't object to 'constant connection required', however, despite how impractical that might be at times.

Crash dive, blow all tanks, crush depth and asDIC all take on entirely new meanings in this game..

...and I don't want to know about hedgehogs or squids
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