President webcasts to all the schoolkids.... - Page 6

AVGWarhawk · 09-08-09, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by August

I have to wonder is it nothing because the speech was always harmless or is it that way because they saw the way the wind was blowing and changed it to be harmless?

Question is, where is the original speech? What was the verbiage? I have not seen anything remotely original showing this was a smoke and mirrors speech. To me it was all made up and or blown completely out of proportion.

Thomen · 09-08-09, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Question is, where is the original speech? What was the verbiage? I have not seen anything remotely original showing this was a smoke and mirrors speech. To me it was all made up and or blown completely out of proportion.

One thing not to forget is, that this actually might be the original speech, and they waited on purpose that long to publish it to make all those that objected or questioned it, look foolish.

AVGWarhawk · 09-08-09, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomen

One thing not to forget is, that this actually might be the original speech, and they waited on purpose that long to publish it to make all those that objected or questioned it, look foolish.

I think it was the original speech. Really, some were saying he would start with the plege of allegience to him. Come on people, get off the rock. It would take a very large set of balls to do that and then press on about healthcare to numerous school kids. Granted a lot do not trust Obama but quite a few claims about this speech boarded on insanity.

antikristuseke · 09-08-09, 02:57 PM

I think quite a lot of those fears went way south of insane, rather than boarder on it.

Task Force · 09-08-09, 03:08 PM

hmm... I guess they decided not to show it today...

Thomen · 09-08-09, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I think it was the original speech. Really, some were saying he would start with the plege of allegience to him. Come on people, get off the rock. It would take a very large set of balls to do that and then press on about healthcare to numerous school kids. Granted a lot do not trust Obama but quite a few claims about this speech boarded on insanity.

Oh, I agree with you.
Too much ruckus about it. Even my wife found the speech very good once it was released, but at the same questions why wasn't it released earlier to shoot down the objections and questions people brought up.

A card, well played I might say.

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What apparently got some parents up in arms was the lesson plan that was published by the DoE and supposed to be used together with the address.

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...to "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president. These would be collected and redistributed at an appropriate later date by the teacher to make students accountable to their goals."

drew a lot of criticism.

However, I think this particular object was changed before the adress was delivered.

AVGWarhawk · 09-08-09, 03:28 PM

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Oh, I agree with you.
Too much ruckus about it. Even my wife found the speech very good once it was released, but at the same questions why wasn't it released earlier to shoot down the objections and questions people brought up.

A card, well played I might say.

I would not say cards well played or if he was even playing cards. After all it was his vacation. He had larger fish to worry about in the form of his failing healthcare plan. Calming a few lunatics spewing their children will be forced to read Mein Kampf and wear Obama approved school uniforms was not part of Obama's vacation plan. Really, the guy has two kids of his own. He wants them taking on the responsibility of school and being a part. Much to do about nothing when it all came down to it.

Wolfehunter · 09-08-09, 03:50 PM

I don't understand the big issue here? What did he say that pissed so many people?

Thomen · 09-08-09, 03:56 PM

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I don't understand the big issue here? What did he say that pissed so many people?

He didn't say anything to piss people off in the speech. IMO, it was a pretty good speech. Also IMO, the lack of coherant information upfront is was caused all or most of the ruckus and questions.

AVGWarhawk · 09-08-09, 03:56 PM

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I don't understand the big issue here? What did he say that pissed so many people?

Why nothing! It was a pure case of a mountain made out of a mole hill. Cart before the horse.

antikristuseke · 09-08-09, 04:07 PM

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He didn't say anything to piss people off in the speech. IMO, it was a pretty good speech. Also IMO, the lack of coherant information upfront is was caused all or most of the ruckus and questions.

Id have to disagree here, what caused all this bull**** was pure unadultered wingnut insanity by people looking for even the smallest straw to grab on to to scream bloody murder at this administration. Sort of similar what some opposing wingnuts did in the last 8 years, but seems to be a lot more energetic and vitriolic. But meh, from as far as I can tell this is jsut the same old **** in US politics.

Thomen · 09-08-09, 04:17 PM

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Id have to disagree here, what caused all this bull**** was pure unadultered wingnut insanity by people looking for even the smallest straw to grab on to to scream bloody murder at this administration. Sort of similar what some opposing wingnuts did in the last 8 years..

Good point, tho..

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but seems to be a lot more energetic and vitriolic.

I m not so sure about that one..

antikristuseke · 09-08-09, 04:20 PM

Yeah, that may only seem that way to me because now I am paying more attention. Hell, I was only 15 when W came to power.

SteamWake · 09-08-09, 04:24 PM

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Yeah, that may only seem that way to me because now I am paying more attention. Hell, I was only 15 when W came to power.

Well going back to the post I made and got ignored When GHW Bush made an 'infomercial' back then the dems and congress went ape **** and ordered tribunals.

Now... not so much.

That to me is the most glaring part of this whole debacle.

But presidents speaking to school kids? Meh its a bad idea whomever is in power. Besides dont they have more pressing matters at hand?

Wolfehunter · 09-09-09, 08:58 AM

I don't think most of the kid care anyhow what he has to say..

I guess this new world order wants children to grow up a bit faster than before....

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antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I think quite a lot of those fears went way south of insane, rather than boarder on it.

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antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Yeah, that may only seem that way to me because now I am paying more attention. Hell, I was only 15 when W came to power.