Hearts of Iron 2.. Arrg I suck at it. - Page 6

Raptor1 · 03-29-10, 12:35 AM

Cash is based off of excess consumer goods, at least in the other HoI games.

I haven't played AoD, but in HoI2 I have never had too much of a problem with resources or money while playing a major power, at least not in the pre-war years...

What difficulty are you playing on?

CaptainHaplo · 03-29-10, 06:26 AM

I am playing on Very Easy difficulty since I am just starting out.

As for building more factories - unless I misunderstand the tutorials and the manual, building factories would make the problem worse, since each factory (producing 1 IC) requires energy, metal, and rubber to operate. Thus, more factories = more demand of resources I don't have.

If I am wrong, and factories CREATE these goods, then someone please correct me, as I can just build a load of industry at the start. But if they consume resources, its going to crash me even harder....

I did see where surplus consumer goods will translate into money - but adjusting the slider never seemed to change my money situation though. Perhaps it has to go through a full day of time before it can update your cash flow?

Raptor1 · 03-29-10, 06:34 AM

Generally, things update at the end of every day, so it's a safe bet to wait a day before ruling out something as not working.

Factories won't create new resources, they are extracted automatically from provinces.

Camaero · 03-29-10, 05:02 PM

Oops, yeah my mistake. Factories DO help you produce more consumer goods and therefore bring in more money correct?

I'm playing AOD as Germany and I just took Poland... my resources have been ok but it's very tough balancing between everything. As far as oil and rare mats go, I've done fine by leaving the trading process on automatic. Japan has been nice enough to send me free trade offers on several occasions to help with my oil levels when it goes into the red. I've been building a lot of factories but also oil refineries and blah blah to balance it out.

I'm curious if you have been letting the AI set up those crucial trades for you?

It's funny how I always thought that if *I* was in control of Germany when Hitler was, and I was.. ya know... an insane **** head... I could have conquered the world by waiting a few more years to build up my navy, develop nukes, and blah blah blah... but damn! I started in 1936 and by the time 1939 rolled around I could NOT wait anymore... just too excited to try my hand at world domination and I invaded poor Poland. It was quite fun. I told Russia I would let them have their share... but when the time came to give up those provinces, I told them ruskies to piss off. They promised they wouldn't forget my act of betrayal... meh.

I don't even know how to group my fighters or bombers yet... so my doom is probably only a matter of time. Awesome game so far though... I really like how you are able to make historical decisions or try things another way via random popups... all with their own pros and cons.

CaptainHaplo · 03-29-10, 11:11 PM

I am cheating... I modded the territories - so now areas that have specific resources - have them. No resource issue any longer..

I will take the mod out later - but for now - learning is easier when the economy isn't so fragile.

Task Force · 03-31-10, 08:50 PM

GAAAAA!!!!!!

I load up HOI2 and think to my self... wouldnt it be nice to play with my Germany campaign, I might be able to knock out afrika...

click save, and press start...

Loading... loading... loading... BLACK SCREEN

WTF, the savefile isnt working.

I Hate it when this happens... guess Ill have to do the whole war again...

I had one Hell of a hard time invadeing britian, I dont wan't to again.

Poland here I come...

Oberon · 04-01-10, 06:01 PM

25th April 1936, forever immortalised as the Isle of Wight Missile Crisis

Discussions on French Armour following the French invasion of London and the British invasion of Paris.

Raptor1 · 04-01-10, 06:03 PM

All my defensive positions, revealed!

Ah, well, good thing I was just about to revise them...

I'd fix that leaking IC if I was you as well.

Task Force · 04-01-10, 06:10 PM

Lol, yep... But the germans left and the british lost track of em.

Oberon · 04-01-10, 06:15 PM

The leaking IC is just the start of the problems. I only have enough IC to produce, if I'm lucky, ten Hurri squadrons by 1938, if I'm lucky, and no money, no real airforce, no real army, no transport ability, 18% dissent and so many ships I don't know what to do with them.

I'm screwed.

Task Force · 04-01-10, 06:17 PM

That sucks...

Oberon · 04-01-10, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Task Force

That sucks...

No, I suck, more specifically, I suck at HOI2.

Task Force · 04-01-10, 06:21 PM

Soo... do you have the AI manageing you IC or is it you?
I think you get reserves/draftees when the war starts

Oberon · 04-01-10, 06:22 PM

Me at the moment, I had the AI doing it earlier but they kept mismanaging it, I'll probably throw it back to them next time though, they can't do any worse than me.

HunterICX · 04-02-10, 03:44 AM

The chatter was just.....

talk about getting into character

Italy really needs some work thought....lack of pretty much everything even the technology of tanks with 5 reverse gears

HunterICX

03-29-10, 12:35 AM	#76
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Cash is based off of excess consumer goods, at least in the other HoI games. I haven't played AoD, but in HoI2 I have never had too much of a problem with resources or money while playing a major power, at least not in the pre-war years... What difficulty are you playing on? __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory Last edited by Raptor1; 03-29-10 at 01:38 AM.

03-29-10, 06:26 AM	#77
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,405 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	I am playing on Very Easy difficulty since I am just starting out. As for building more factories - unless I misunderstand the tutorials and the manual, building factories would make the problem worse, since each factory (producing 1 IC) requires energy, metal, and rubber to operate. Thus, more factories = more demand of resources I don't have. If I am wrong, and factories CREATE these goods, then someone please correct me, as I can just build a load of industry at the start. But if they consume resources, its going to crash me even harder.... I did see where surplus consumer goods will translate into money - but adjusting the slider never seemed to change my money situation though. Perhaps it has to go through a full day of time before it can update your cash flow? __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

03-29-10, 06:34 AM	#78
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Generally, things update at the end of every day, so it's a safe bet to wait a day before ruling out something as not working. Factories won't create new resources, they are extracted automatically from provinces. __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

03-29-10, 05:02 PM	#79
Camaero The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA, Massachusetts Posts: 1,477 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Oops, yeah my mistake. Factories DO help you produce more consumer goods and therefore bring in more money correct? I'm playing AOD as Germany and I just took Poland... my resources have been ok but it's very tough balancing between everything. As far as oil and rare mats go, I've done fine by leaving the trading process on automatic. Japan has been nice enough to send me free trade offers on several occasions to help with my oil levels when it goes into the red. I've been building a lot of factories but also oil refineries and blah blah to balance it out. I'm curious if you have been letting the AI set up those crucial trades for you? It's funny how I always thought that if I was in control of Germany when Hitler was, and I was.. ya know... an insane **** head... I could have conquered the world by waiting a few more years to build up my navy, develop nukes, and blah blah blah... but damn! I started in 1936 and by the time 1939 rolled around I could NOT wait anymore... just too excited to try my hand at world domination and I invaded poor Poland. It was quite fun. I told Russia I would let them have their share... but when the time came to give up those provinces, I told them ruskies to piss off. They promised they wouldn't forget my act of betrayal... meh. I don't even know how to group my fighters or bombers yet... so my doom is probably only a matter of time. Awesome game so far though... I really like how you are able to make historical decisions or try things another way via random popups... all with their own pros and cons. __________________

03-29-10, 11:11 PM	#80
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,405 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	I am cheating... I modded the territories - so now areas that have specific resources - have them. No resource issue any longer.. I will take the mod out later - but for now - learning is easier when the economy isn't so fragile. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

03-31-10, 08:50 PM	#81
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	GAAAAA!!!!!! I load up HOI2 and think to my self... wouldnt it be nice to play with my Germany campaign, I might be able to knock out afrika... click save, and press start... Loading... loading... loading... BLACK SCREEN WTF, the savefile isnt working. I Hate it when this happens... guess Ill have to do the whole war again... I had one Hell of a hard time invadeing britian, I dont wan't to again. Poland here I come... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

04-01-10, 06:01 PM	#82
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	25th April 1936, forever immortalised as the Isle of Wight Missile Crisis *Discussions on French Armour following the French invasion of London and the British invasion of Paris.*

04-01-10, 06:03 PM	#83
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	All my defensive positions, revealed! Ah, well, good thing I was just about to revise them... I'd fix that leaking IC if I was you as well. __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

04-01-10, 06:10 PM	#84
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Lol, yep... But the germans left and the british lost track of em. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

04-01-10, 06:15 PM	#85
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	The leaking IC is just the start of the problems. I only have enough IC to produce, if I'm lucky, ten Hurri squadrons by 1938, if I'm lucky, and no money, no real airforce, no real army, no transport ability, 18% dissent and so many ships I don't know what to do with them. I'm screwed.

04-01-10, 06:17 PM	#86
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	That sucks... __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

04-01-10, 06:21 PM	#88
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Soo... do you have the AI manageing you IC or is it you? I think you get reserves/draftees when the war starts __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

04-01-10, 06:22 PM	#89
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Me at the moment, I had the AI doing it earlier but they kept mismanaging it, I'll probably throw it back to them next time though, they can't do any worse than me.

04-02-10, 03:44 AM	#90
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	The chatter was just..... talk about getting into character Italy really needs some work thought....lack of pretty much everything even the technology of tanks with 5 reverse gears HunterICX __________________