Take one minute to think about this

[StdDev]

Remember Spooka.. sarcasm is an ART FORM!

Neal.. we worship the people you walk on!!!!!!

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by spooka 2

So I should take Skybird seriously. OK I can do that. I do like the sence of humor that I have seen here at Subsim.com. This is an example of a very fun time
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=127015

What a comedy sketch. :rotfl: I laughed very hard. I will keep a look out for Skybird. Thank you StdDev.

Cheers
sp2

This is the big black boogey man speaking. Boogey man actually understands humour, and likes to laugh a lot, and has a strong sense for even black humour and some sarcasm as well, but - there is always a "but" you see - some people use humour a.) for toning down hot threads, which is okay, or b.) not for making fun, but to personally hurt or discredit other people if they find themselves having run out of arguments and now try to use volume where subtelty or content was not sufficient to make others beloieve like they believe themselves. That is the time when these people start to describe me as being "serious" and not understanding "humour" when they misbehave themselves. Sometimes we better agree to disagree instead of using tricks and cheats.

Nothing wrong with your start here, post your opinion on topics, if you feel like it, and try to leave it to argument when it is a debate, else have fun. That way, personal collisions usually should not happen. After some time you will have learned to differ the noisemakers form the guys you can have a decent talk with, no matter the theme.

Originally Posted by Fish

You know the guy? Perhaps he is a simple person. Try to be human.

Or better try to be more human than human - try to be Nexus-6!

Originally Posted by spooka 2

I won't go to the Skybird or this neal guys threads. Thank you all for the warning.

Both things will prove to be difficult, but for very different reasons. :rotfl:

Poor guy. Anyone remembering the running joke in Private Ryan: "What is it about this FUBAR thing?"

[StdDev]

Waitaminit thar pardner...

Originally Posted by Skybird

to personally hurt or discredit other people if they find themselves having run out of arguments and now try to use volume where subtelty or content was not sufficient to make others beloieve like they believe themselves. That is the time when these people start to describe me as being "serious" and not understanding "humour"

Are you sayin that I try to hurt people?
While its true that I accuse you of being "serious".. I did not mean it as an attack..
"Serious" is not the same as "A**hole", or "Dumba**"
"Serious" is OK!... seriously!

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by StdDev

Waitaminit thar pardner...

Are you sayin that I try to hurt people?
While its true that I accuse you of being "serious".. I did not mean it as an attack..
"Serious" is not the same as "A**hole", or "Dumba**"
"Serious" is OK!... seriously!

Hey, are you the navel of this thread!? we haven't talked to each other since months, so no: it was not you on my mind, but some others.

[joea]

Originally Posted by spooka 2

Wow! I see what you mean StdDev.

No, they are joking with each other!

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by joea

No, they are joking with each other!

Yep, that's true, and I think that StdDev will agree - serious!

[StdDev]

Yes Yes Yes.. I agree I agree!!!!!
please dont beat me no mo

[Zachstar]

Ah yes I have seen that movie (The older one right after reading the book) many a time and thank you for the wonderful comparason! I accept it fully! I support the things that get the poor back on their feet (fusion being the main)

Oh and please stop showing your stupidity and start showing some basic respect. It's Zachstar not Zack Zackster or Zackstar. Get it right fools.

Hey Neal or whoever else has the power to do so. Can I have the custom title of Mr. Scrooge? Since the bleeding hearts seem to want to compare me to such lately I think it is fitting just to do it proper.

Dispite your weird attempts to paint me as some sort of scumbag who hates the poor why don't you do a tad bit of research first?

I support breaking up the unions the vile groups that steal the economy away from so many of my generation. My friends that will exit college to find the good paying jobs can no longer afford to hire because of union demands. The outrageous actions of the union while on strike showing people of serious mental instability. The problems for the economy. Yes I want that GONE.

I support real programs to help people get back on their feet. Home development programs that quickly build houses and give the keys to the poor allowing families that got hit hard to recover and live happy lives again. Also the job programs that use the power of computers to quickly educate and train people to get into jobs they can build up from.

I support the development of fusion. The real solution that will lift us from the vile death that is oil and deliver us into a new economy that will help everyone. Jobs will rise so fast and demand for workforce grow so much that there will be basicly no excuse to be homeless. The REAL solution. The LONG TERM solution.

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by Skybird

quite a lot of preassumptions on your side, eh? You seem to know more about the story's event than even we over here, and the author of the article, and the police.

On paper it all is nice and well, you know. Just that in practice and reality - things often look very different, more complex, more difficult.

Just give me the proof and stop with the sillyness please.

Originally Posted by Skybird

Crystal clear. But you will steal at one time, my friend. Your misery just needs to be big enough. If you are up to decide wether to steal something to eat, or start the third week in sequence with nothing to bite and red circles before your eyes, and you don't obey your human nature at that point, you would be a stupid.

Please do me a favor and never assume anything about me again. No misery is enough to tear away the values my family holds dear. NEVER! So take your crap elseware.

Originally Posted by Skybird

And let'S see what has come of your values once you had been 10 years a homeless, and being treated like a non-existing nothing by people - at best.

Just the same as they are today. Your silly attempt to paint a future is meaningless.

Originally Posted by Skybird

Maybe a shelter was not available. maybe it had closing hour already gone by. Maybe he did not know where to search. Maybe he already was too cold. Or had lost all hope. Or had fear, was ashamed, was afraid. Or was mentally derranged, or drank too much alcohol to stay warm. Or he was too hopeless or stubborn or to proud to ask for help - homeless people get looked down on all day long - if being looked at at all. Maybe his life has been like that since too long. There are a million reasons possible why this guy not headed for a shelter. And only a computer's processing can prove to be unable to understand these, and stick to nill-one-logic only.

Prove it... Show me proof he could not have gained help. Otherwise your silly post means little

Originally Posted by Skybird

Of a human witnesses, of course some more than just logic must be expected. Because what else makes humans human, and different to primitive animals reflex-automatisms?

Help is not allowing them to break the law. Help is developing fusion. Help is building the housing. Help is pointing them to shelters.

Theft is Theft please take off the bleeding heart shades for a moment.

Originally Posted by Skybird

You expect to be homeless yourself soon. But that is a description with many facettes and possible fates behind the label. As long as your socks and the skin and nails of your feet have not grown together so that only a doctor with a scalpel can seperate the two and in the process must remove greater parts of your feet's skin and upper layers of flesh since the textile has been grown into the flesh and in parts is totally surrounded by it, as long as you do not know how ashamed people can be to accept medical treatment for free because they know they haven't changed underwear since one and a half year or more, you can talk easy about the dignity in being a homeless.

What the hell is wrong with you? Please go seek help.

Originally Posted by Skybird

Stop expecting people to behave like computers. Man is man, not some piece of digital logic-code always following the rule of what is "reasonable". Everybody working in any social-oriented profession or job, knows that, from the hospital-doctor to the streetworker. Where they do not learn this, they fail in their jobs miserably. and people only acting by the law of reason - are capable of the most cruel and inhumance crimes imaginable.

Stop letting people break the law. When you allow one to break the law it weakens the system. This is the reason I am against unenforceable laws such as drug laws.

Originally Posted by Skybird

In the end I get the imprssion that some of the things that got said in this thread, are only to avoid any irritation reagrding the tools and means of luxurious christmas - by rationalising an individual's unwelcomed fate away. for the religious crowd here, christmas marks the birthday of the Christ, that is the major point in it - not the marketing show the muppets made of it. So see if you can bring your grim fingerpointing regarding this homeless man into conformity with what Christ has taught regarding "love thy next like you love thyself" and what he lived by his own example when sitting together with the pariahs of society of his time when having a meal. After all, he is your religious icon, so the obligation is with you - for me he only was a wise mind like many others, and I am free to agree with him or not. So think of it and see if you are in conformity with him when you act by cold reason only and demand the law's full range to rule over the suffering (deserved or not) of a fallen man - or sink christmas altogether. That at least would be honest by you, then. Those of you being without guilt - throw the first stone. Ideally at christmas day - that would be the best of all timings.

NICE TRY! Too bad you assume that my view of religion clouds my judgement. Too bad I am not very religious (I believe in god and his son. I believe his son came down to help us advance from our dark ways at the time and move on)

I can only apologize for I know you thought that was the perfect MK-50 to drop from your bleeding heart Helicoper. To bad it ended up being a slow and weak one unable to catch me off guard.

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by Fish

You know the guy? Perhaps he is a simple person. Try to be human.

I am human. I want this man to make it IN THE END. I think long term. Not bleeding heart short term. He needs to go to a shelter if there is none then somthing is seriously messed up over there. But first you have to PROVE IT!

[SUBMAN1]

Perfect answers Zachstar.

-S

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

No misery is enough to tear away the values my family holds dear. NEVER! So take your crap elseware.

In both this thread, the the one by swifty about his sub, I notice that your values do
not include even the most basic manners, courtesy, humility of respect towards other
members of this forum or their achivements.

it is not hard to disagree without losing your manners.

[Reaves]

I don't know about your countries but over here there simply is no excuse to be homeless. The reason we have them is because they've given up on life and don't try anymore or have a mental illness and have fallen through the cracks in the system.


Pitty them yes, feel sorry for them? No.

[Zachstar]

Agreed! And I see no reason why Germany ought to be different.

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by Letum

In both this thread, the the one by swifty about his sub, I notice that your values do
not include even the most basic manners, courtesy, humility of respect towards other
members of this forum or their achivements.

it is not hard to disagree without losing your manners.

Nice try. Good that you try to make small potatoes into big ones.

Respect for the law and the privacy and property of people is the value here. Not how I treat sillyness. Take your crap elseware.