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Old 11-16-07, 07:16 PM   #76
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Buy them after the law changes instead, they'll be cheaper, that's what all the criminals are doing in the UK thanks to the ridiculous gun legislation over here. Meanwhile, all the law abiding citizens have to sit there armed with a potato peeler.

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Old 11-16-07, 07:26 PM   #77
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Buy them after the law changes instead, they'll be cheaper, that's what all the criminals are doing in the UK thanks to the ridiculous gun legislation over here. Meanwhile, all the law abiding citizens have to sit there armed with a potato peeler.

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That works if one is a criminal at heart. Law abiding folks will make their purchase before it becomes illegal to do so.

"When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns".
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Old 11-16-07, 07:29 PM   #78
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"When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns".
Tautology ahoy!
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Old 11-16-07, 07:36 PM   #79
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"When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns".
Tautology ahoy!
I know it can be hard to wrap ones mind a round if you don't believe that criminals exist, or that law abiding people exist.
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Old 11-16-07, 07:46 PM   #80
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I know it can be hard to wrap ones mind a round if you don't believe that criminals exist, or that law abiding people exist.
Speaking from experience? Oh I don't know anymore.

Saying that when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns is needlessly circular, obvious, and a bit stupid. It's like saying "why should we make laws, criminals will still break them?".
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Old 11-16-07, 07:50 PM   #81
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When privately owned nuclear weapons are outlawed, only outlaws have privately
owned nuclear weapons.
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Old 11-16-07, 08:05 PM   #82
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When privately owned nuclear weapons are outlawed, only outlaws have privately
owned nuclear weapons.
SOP for you Letum. Over the top when your argument is shown to be phlacid.
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Old 11-16-07, 08:24 PM   #83
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I know it can be hard to wrap ones mind a round if you don't believe that criminals exist, or that law abiding people exist.
Speaking from experience? Oh I don't know anymore.

Saying that when guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns is needlessly circular, obvious, and a bit stupid. It's like saying "why should we make laws, criminals will still break them?".
But will banning of guns prevent crime? I dont understand that people in UK are like sheep and let the goverment take their guns. Now this stupidy is spreading in EU.
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Old 11-16-07, 08:32 PM   #84
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When privately owned nuclear weapons are outlawed, only outlaws have privately
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SOP for you Letum. Over the top when your argument is shown to be phlacid.
No argument, just joke.
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Old 11-16-07, 08:42 PM   #85
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But will banning of guns prevent crime? I dont understand that people in UK are like sheep and let the goverment take their guns. Now this stupidy is spreading in EU.
Of course banning guns won't prevent crime. The world isn't that simple.
No public gun ownership = stupidity = sheep

^the world isn't that simple either^
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Old 11-16-07, 08:45 PM   #86
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But will banning of guns prevent crime? I dont understand that people in UK are like sheep and let the goverment take their guns. Now this stupidy is spreading in EU.
Of course banning guns won't prevent crime. The world isn't that simple.
No public gun ownership = stupidity = sheep

^the world isn't that simple either^
You dont think owning guns is a basic right?
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Old 11-16-07, 09:45 PM   #87
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You dont think owning guns is a basic right?
Nope, its privilege.

I don't think I would be comfortable living somewhere that sanctioned the mentally unstable, criminal, blind etc etc having unfettered access to firearms.
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Old 11-16-07, 11:15 PM   #88
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I have a sign outside my house that says "intruders will be shot. Male intruders will be raped and shot"
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Old 11-17-07, 03:15 AM   #89
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You dont think owning guns is a basic right?
Nope, its privilege.

I don't think I would be comfortable living somewhere that sanctioned the mentally unstable, criminal, blind etc etc having unfettered access to firearms.
Heh, those people can get weapons when ever they want one.
The point is that healthy and honest citizen should have the right to own guns.
I can accept psycological tests and right to access your medical bacground when getting your license. But just banning them, what does that make us? We cant be trusted on how we think and act so goverment does it for us. Maybe thay will ban knives next? Gasoline? Rocks? I wont live like that and will emigrate to US if things start to go that stupid here. Anyone get this?
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Old 11-17-07, 10:09 AM   #90
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Happy Times, don't forget that you elect this cruel government that doesn't trust you.

As regards guns as a right, I agree with you, owning guns is a right. But it's not an absolute right. I believe that mass public gun ownership has an adverse impact on other rights; right to life, fair trial. Enough of an impact to justify controlling guns.
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