Warming on hold.......cooling on the way? - Page 6

Sea Demon · 05-31-07, 04:00 PM

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/in.../neptune-news/

Hmmm. Global Warming on Neptune. Maybe Al Gore will find a way to blame it on human emissions, and provide us with a place where we can all pay for carbon credits to ease our collective guilt.

robbo180265 · 05-31-07, 05:46 PM

Is this true?

Are my eyes decieving me?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/internatio...092628,00.html

Perhaps there is hope for us

Tony Juniper, the head of Friends of the Earth, said: "This is a deliberate and carefully crafted attempt to derail any prospect of a climate change agreement (at the G8 summit) in Germany next week. [Mr Bush] is trying to destroy the prospect of that getting anywhere by announcing his own parallel process with very vaguely expressed objectives ... Basically we should see this as a delaying tactic to keep the climate change issue off his back in terms of any real decisions until he leaves office (in early 2009)."

But then again, probably not:hmm:

Sea Demon · 05-31-07, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by robbo180265

Is this true?

Are my eyes decieving me?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/internatio...092628,00.html

Perhaps there is hope for America

Read the last paragraph carefully. This is probably the most accurate statement I've ever seen from anybody in the environmental community to date. Bush doesn't have any history supporting these measures and seemingly no intention of reducing economic output to pacify the greenies. I think this chap is quite right.

05-31-07, 05:59 PM

Not only the US and GWB my friend.

A crucial agreement on climate change failed to materialize in final talks at the ASEM summit in Hamburg on Tuesday, and the continuing gulf between European and developing Asian nations may likewise sink hopes for a climate agreement at next week's G-8 summit in Heiligendamm.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...485631,00.html

robbo180265 · 05-31-07, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo180265

Is this true?

Are my eyes decieving me?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/internatio...092628,00.html

Perhaps there is hope for America

Read the last paragraph carefully. This is probably the most accurate statement I've ever seen from anybody in the environmental community to date. Bush doesn't have any history supporting these measures and seemingly no intention of reducing economic output to pacify the greenies. I think this chap is quite right.

Dude! I quoted the last chapter

Sea Demon · 05-31-07, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by robbo180265

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon

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Originally Posted by robbo180265

Is this true?

Are my eyes decieving me?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/internatio...092628,00.html

Perhaps there is hope for America

Read the last paragraph carefully. This is probably the most accurate statement I've ever seen from anybody in the environmental community to date. Bush doesn't have any history supporting these measures and seemingly no intention of reducing economic output to pacify the greenies. I think this chap is quite right.

Dude! I quoted the last chapter

No. You edited it after I added my response.

robbo180265 · 05-31-07, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon

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Originally Posted by robbo180265

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Originally Posted by Sea Demon

Quote:

Originally Posted by robbo180265

Is this true?

Are my eyes decieving me?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/internatio...092628,00.html

Perhaps there is hope for America

Read the last paragraph carefully. This is probably the most accurate statement I've ever seen from anybody in the environmental community to date. Bush doesn't have any history supporting these measures and seemingly no intention of reducing economic output to pacify the greenies. I think this chap is quite right.

Dude! I quoted the last chapter

No. You edited it after I added my response.

Actually I did, now I think about it - sorry

Tchocky · 05-31-07, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by U-533

I'll be back with proof that all this global warming crap is just that "CRAP"

I have to dig through the records and stuff gemme some time BRB!

*twitches in anticipation*

robbo180265 · 06-02-07, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by U-533

I'll be back with proof that all this global warming crap is just that "CRAP"

I have to dig through the records and stuff gemme some time BRB!

#Pulls up deckchair, pours a pint, relaxes and waits#

kurtz · 06-02-07, 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by micky1up

certainly looks like a sine wave cycle to me not perfect but defo a cycle

Maybe it looks like a sine wave to you I don't imagine it does to anyone else. Have you seen a tangent wave. It's not either but looks rather more like a tangent. Now extrapolate that a bit.

Happy Times · 06-02-07, 04:51 AM

Read what a 15 year old girl has to say about it.:p

http://home.earthlink.net/~ponderthemaundercf/id12.html

Skybird · 06-02-07, 08:55 AM

Some of our American friends may wish to sign up here:

http://action.foe.org/dia/organizati...ntent_KEY=2748

Or not.

All this with reference to this week's honestly meant :rotfl: events:

http://www.germanwatch.org/klima/g8mai.pdf (Anglish and German)

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...485992,00.html

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...486090,00.html

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...486135,00.html

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...485683,00.html

Sometimes, no compromise is better than a foul compromise, and this is such an occasion. I do not expect Bush to move during the summit, and thus hope that the europeans and the Germans let the summit fail with flying colours, by that america could be better isolated and brandmarked as the world's major roadblock to tackling environmental problems and adapting to climate change. even China was becoming more willing to reconsider it'S stand - and now use the American stubborness again as an excuse not do move at all. Ironically, on national levels the US are far more positive on Green policies than is the administration. I reead that many cities and counties are far ahead of federal policies on renewable energies and emission control. Bush claims credits that are nit his own. However, nobody outside sees the US as world leader in according technologies and policies, but it could become something like that - after Bush is history and hopefully neither Hillary nor a Republican becomes the new president. Bush'S proposals are a fake, and you know what?

I knew that something like this would becoming from the WH short before the summit - it would have been exaclty the thing that I would have done in his place, too, to ease the pressure on me and hoping to deflect european and global pressures a bit withiut needing to coimmit myself to anything real, and obligatory. Well, he can bury that hope - in Germany, most people are just laughing about his "initiative", and many are even angry.

And btw, Mr President, on your remarks in that speech of the US being the global leader in fighting climate change: the global market leader on wind energy technologies and manufacturing solar cells - is Germany (our books are filled with order for the mnext 13-17 years), while concerning according technologies American car makers lack behind considerably behind European and Japanese car manufacturers. You, Mr. President, are leader in only one thing: air pollution, and wasting oil.

And give Mrs. Pelosi a hug when you see here.

Bush is playing for time. But as a matter of fact, his nation already is ahead of him. It's only a question of time, until even america will start to move towards greener policies - necessarily. Green" does not mean "evil". It can boost your prestige - see California, and Arnold.It can boost your economy: see Germany, our ecology-related branches are skyrocketing.

Unfortunately, time is what we do have less and lesser of.

elite_hunter_sh3 · 06-02-07, 09:00 AM

HA

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...arming+swindle

:s hifty:

Happy Times · 06-02-07, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Happy Times

Read what a 15 year old girl has to say about it.:p

http://home.earthlink.net/~ponderthemaundercf/id12.html

She is a child genius.

Actually she makes good arguments.

http://home.earthlink.net/~ponderthemaunderg/id13.html

http://newsbusters.org/node/12968

Tchocky · 06-02-07, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by robbo180265

#Pulls up deckchair, pours a pint, relaxes and waits#

Ah! that's much better!

06-02-07, 04:51 AM	#86
Happy Times Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 2,950 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Read what a 15 year old girl has to say about it.:p http://home.earthlink.net/~ponderthemaundercf/id12.html __________________

06-02-07, 08:55 AM	#87
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,782 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Some of our American friends may wish to sign up here: http://action.foe.org/dia/organizati...ntent_KEY=2748 Or not. All this with reference to this week's honestly meant :rotfl: events: http://www.germanwatch.org/klima/g8mai.pdf (Anglish and German) http://www.spiegel.de/international/...485992,00.html http://www.spiegel.de/international/...486090,00.html http://www.spiegel.de/international/...486135,00.html http://www.spiegel.de/international/...485683,00.html Sometimes, no compromise is better than a foul compromise, and this is such an occasion. I do not expect Bush to move during the summit, and thus hope that the europeans and the Germans let the summit fail with flying colours, by that america could be better isolated and brandmarked as the world's major roadblock to tackling environmental problems and adapting to climate change. even China was becoming more willing to reconsider it'S stand - and now use the American stubborness again as an excuse not do move at all. Ironically, on national levels the US are far more positive on Green policies than is the administration. I reead that many cities and counties are far ahead of federal policies on renewable energies and emission control. Bush claims credits that are nit his own. However, nobody outside sees the US as world leader in according technologies and policies, but it could become something like that - after Bush is history and hopefully neither Hillary nor a Republican becomes the new president. Bush'S proposals are a fake, and you know what? I knew that something like this would becoming from the WH short before the summit - it would have been exaclty the thing that I would have done in his place, too, to ease the pressure on me and hoping to deflect european and global pressures a bit withiut needing to coimmit myself to anything real, and obligatory. Well, he can bury that hope - in Germany, most people are just laughing about his "initiative", and many are even angry. And btw, Mr President, on your remarks in that speech of the US being the global leader in fighting climate change: the global market leader on wind energy technologies and manufacturing solar cells - is Germany (our books are filled with order for the mnext 13-17 years), while concerning according technologies American car makers lack behind considerably behind European and Japanese car manufacturers. You, Mr. President, are leader in only one thing: air pollution, and wasting oil. And give Mrs. Pelosi a hug when you see here. Bush is playing for time. But as a matter of fact, his nation already is ahead of him. It's only a question of time, until even america will start to move towards greener policies - necessarily. Green" does not mean "evil". It can boost your prestige - see California, and Arnold.It can boost your economy: see Germany, our ecology-related branches are skyrocketing. Unfortunately, time is what we do have less and lesser of. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert. Last edited by Skybird; 06-02-07 at 09:14 AM.

05-31-07, 04:00 PM	#76
Sea Demon Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: USA Posts: 2,552 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	http://www.worldclimatereport.com/in.../neptune-news/ Hmmm. Global Warming on Neptune. Maybe Al Gore will find a way to blame it on human emissions, and provide us with a place where we can all pay for carbon credits to ease our collective guilt.

05-31-07, 05:46 PM	#77
robbo180265 Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brighton, England.Party capital of the south Posts: 2,255 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	Is this true? Are my eyes decieving me? http://www.guardian.co.uk/internatio...092628,00.html Perhaps there is hope for us Tony Juniper, the head of Friends of the Earth, said: "This is a deliberate and carefully crafted attempt to derail any prospect of a climate change agreement (at the G8 summit) in Germany next week. [Mr Bush] is trying to destroy the prospect of that getting anywhere by announcing his own parallel process with very vaguely expressed objectives ... Basically we should see this as a delaying tactic to keep the climate change issue off his back in terms of any real decisions until he leaves office (in early 2009)." But then again, probably not:hmm:

05-31-07, 05:59 PM	#79
waste gate Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Not only the US and GWB my friend. A crucial agreement on climate change failed to materialize in final talks at the ASEM summit in Hamburg on Tuesday, and the continuing gulf between European and developing Asian nations may likewise sink hopes for a climate agreement at next week's G-8 summit in Heiligendamm. http://www.spiegel.de/international/...485631,00.html

06-02-07, 09:00 AM	#88
elite_hunter_sh3 The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,376 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	HA http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...arming+swindle :s hifty: