Forced retirement (merged)

[Platapus]

I am confused.

I completed my first cruise in a Gar class submarine (I chose this from the career screen). I completed all missions and sunk over 65K tons.

Got back to pearl and got handed a bunch of fakeo medals and everyone marveled at how I could get my sub back in the condition (had a rough cruise)

I was given a new submarine and it is a Porpose class! 6 torp tubes instead of 10 and I lost all my upgrades

Is this anyway to reward an intrepid (and damn lucky) skipper?

Was the gar class I choose at the start of my career unrealistic and when the game "upgraded" me it went with a more historical sub?

Or is someone up the chain borkin me?

[mookiemookie]

I think you're getting borked. A P-class is definately a step down from the Gar, and I can't think of any historical reason why that would happen.

Look at it this way: at least they didn't bump you up the chain and retire you out altogether.

[Sir Big Jugs]

They gave it to someone better...

Be more aggressive!

[Chock]

Look at it this way, sometimes sh*t like that happens in the military, so I guess you could look at it that way. After all, Burt Lancaster gets screwed over in Run silent Run deep, too.

[Steppenwolf]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Is this anyway to reward an intrepid (and damn lucky) skipper?

Was the gar class I choose at the start of my career unrealistic and when the game "upgraded" me it went with a more historical sub?

Or is someone up the chain borkin me?

Oddly enough, it is a way to reward you.

One of the developers posted that sometimes when a sub is very badly damaged it cannot be repaired (or will take too long to repair) and has to be junked. Rather than scrap you, as well as the boat, if your performance was good (as yours obviously was) they will reward you by giving you another submarine. However, you get whatever sub is on hand (supplies are limited you know ), which may be inferior to your original boat.

[SteamWake]

How did you get a Gar as your first commission anyhow ?


Yes I know you picked it but from a "roleplay" aspect (shrug).

[XanderF]

Moral of the story: don't get your boat so banged up. You can't drive over a few powerups and magically have your "health" restored to 100 pts.

As with reality, some damage can't be repaired, and the boat gets scrapped.

[shawnyp420]

That makes sense. I know they made a crapload of those diesel subs so the decision to scrap one must not have been a hard one to make.

[TheSatyr]

I can only think of one or two boats that were so damaged they had to be scrapped.

Look at it this way,they have to send your Gar back to the States for a full repair job and they don't want to keep you out of action for as long as the repair job would take so they transfered you to the first available boat.

Your exec gets the Gar and gets to party in San Francisco for a few months while you get to go back out and risk your neck again.

[TheBrauerHour]

Originally Posted by Sir Big Jugs

They gave it to someone better...

Be more aggressive!

Classic... :rotfl:

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by XanderF

Moral of the story: don't get your boat so banged up. You can't drive over a few powerups and magically have your "health" restored to 100 pts.

As with reality, some damage can't be repaired, and the boat gets scrapped.

Well Sir,

Getting my boat banged up was not exactly my idea. You see, there were these Japanese gentlemen who seemed to take umbrage at my decreasing the buoyancy of some of their cargo ships.


They were awfully decent about it. They just wanted to chat about it. However, I was preoccupied with checking my trim at depth and running a silent running drill for the crew that I neglected to pay my respects to the convoy commander. Awfully sorry old chap!


Well those Japanese blokes wanted to send me a little something for the occasion. They were all carefully wrapped in metal drums, but something went wrong with them. Every time they got close to my submarine, they exploded. Must have been shotty workmanship what with the war being on.


Well, it started getting a little wet and noisy for my good so I waited until darkness and then surfaced for a breather. I guess the chaps got tired of waiting so I went home.


Believe me, if it were up to me, I would rather have forgone the damage to my submarine.


However, I will take your advice on my next patrol. Thanks for sharing.

[Tieg]

I started in the asiatic arena and on my first war patrol came home with empty torpedo rooms and 9 ships sunk for around 43000 tons.

My 2nd war patrol, again empty torpedo rooms with 9 ships sunk for 45000 tons. Was trying like hell to get 10. At the end of that war patrol I noticed manila was taken by the japs and I had to go to Surabaya to end patrol.

My 3rd war patrol with a new boat, again empty torpedo rooms with 10 ships sunk for 46000 tons. My boat is rapidly running out of brooms for the periscope when we pull in.

** My only gripe with these patrol was I was given the victory medal (medal of honor) when it should have been a lower award and I'm thinking about revisiting my medal mod and going back to the previous version I had. Wasn't perfect but it worked.**

NOW THE KICKER: I end up transferred to Pearl where I start out at and head back to the celebes sea. Right away I run into a convoy where I sink a destroyer on a snap shot as she appeared out of no where at night. I get the objectives to focus on convoy escorts so that re attacks on the convoy could be achieved. I end up sinking 2 more destroyers and have nothing but ships around me. Conserving torpedos for short accurate shots I end up sinking, damaging enough so they won't go no where and can be finished with deck gun later, and ultimately battle surfacing and sinking the entire convoy for 13 ships at 67000 tons. On my way back I get bomb twice by airplanes. Even though radar is installed I get no fore warning and recieve damage on both occasions so that I have to emergency surface, fight off the planes while making emergence repairs which I am successful.

I pull into port...get 2 medals and a note stating because of my less the noteworthy achievements I am retired early.

Was it the plane attacks? Or was I suppose to NOT sink the blipping convoy? Anyone else have similar sea stories?

[Onkel Neal]

That simulates the admiral getting drunk and making foolish decisions.


Just kidding, it sounds like a bug, the patch team is aware of it. What I do is start a new career in the year the old one ended, and then add the totals at war's end.

[hyperion2206]

Isn't that bug caused when you get a Gato class before it should be officially available? I think if you get a Gato before it should be available the game ends your career at the very same date the Gato is introduced into service.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by hyperion2206

Isn't that bug caused when you get a Gato class before it should be officially available? I think if you get a Gato before it should be available the game ends your career at the very same date the Gato is introduced into service.

I think that happends, only if you forget to change the dates on the "patrol planner" for want of a better term. In every flotilla, each boat has a specified date its introduced, and a list of patrols that are sort of planned out based on date. If you forget to change the introduction date, and/or the date on the patrol assigments, then ya, you get an early career ending.

On a side note, the boat introduction date into a flotilla, also dictates when you can transfer to that flotilla with that boat type.