Dangerous Waters Patch v1.04 / Steam 1.04 patch available - Page 6

Dr.Sid · 01-28-07, 06:53 AM

Stars are pretty stand-alone. Their modifications does not collide with anything.

kage · 01-28-07, 12:18 PM

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First question: Is it possible to lose sonar contact if a sub is below a tanker/freighter, meaning if i want to stay undercover, can I use a ship with heavy cavitation as a hat and to avoin incoming torps?

If you attempt to utilize this tactic, which has been discussed multiple times...a good OPFOR will see that your sub will have different tonals than the freighter. Granted, they won't be able to hear you over the sound of the freighter, but that's what narrowband is for. Then all they have to do is set the ceiling of his torps say to 60-100 feet to get you and not the freighter.

For real life, there is some uncertainty involved in this. First of all, the 'sub class X always emit tonals at n, n, n, n and n frequencies' we're having in DW is bulls^!& - the tonals generated will depend on the exact hull, plus an indeterminate number of internal conditions which may change from one moment to another - the cargo load of a freighter or other ship may affect what it sounds like. (This is part of why the periscope is as important as it is, RL) - what aspect you're at may also affect what sounds are sent in your direction.

In the face of that, a ship getting a "new" tonal may not be worth all that much attention.

(Or at least, this is my understanding of it)

But in DW, it's almost like calling attention to yourself.

sonar732 · 01-28-07, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kage

For real life, there is some uncertainty involved in this. First of all, the 'sub class X always emit tonals at n, n, n, n and n frequencies' we're having in DW is bulls^!& - the tonals generated will depend on the exact hull, plus an indeterminate number of internal conditions which may change from one moment to another - the cargo load of a freighter or other ship may affect what it sounds like. (This is part of why the periscope is as important as it is, RL) - what aspect you're at may also affect what sounds are sent in your direction.

In the face of that, a ship getting a "new" tonal may not be worth all that much attention.

(Or at least, this is my understanding of it)

But in DW, it's almost like calling attention to yourself.

Well...the issue with this is that the DoD will never release the exact tonals given by particular boats. What matters here is the concept of FRAZ display and the 'general' utilization of nb.

Bellman · 01-29-07, 02:01 AM

Top screening is ineffective, however masking is nicely implemented by SCS and can be used in shallow waters. Depending on own depth, the SA may not pick up target sub running at or near peri depth on the opposite side of a surf. However if you can dive and/or deploy enough TA those faint tonals manifest.

Masking is difficult to pull off and would I'm sure only be used by a diver in extremis and in most cases would not inhibit a skillful opponent.

Bera · 01-29-07, 07:47 AM

Still no news about the STEAM patch? Jamie said it would be avaliable due to the last weekend, but so far, nothing...

Pirate · 01-30-07, 10:45 AM

Is this the last patch sonalysts will deploy to DW or in the future will come the 1.05?

ASWnut101 · 01-30-07, 06:44 PM

And what about that depth charge that someone esle asked about? is it even used?:hmm:

LuftWolf · 01-30-07, 10:40 PM

Helicopters equipped with depth charges will use them, and they are generally pretty effective.

Cheers,
David

01-31-07, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LuftWolf

Helicopters equipped with depth charges will use them, and they are generally pretty effective.

Cheers,
David

AI, Player or Both Controlable?:hmm:

hachiman · 02-07-07, 06:43 AM

Thanx for this and love the new 688I model.
Those VLS tubes are sweet.

Frying Tiger · 02-13-07, 10:31 AM

Valve has updated Steam for Dangerous Waters.

Link to the Steam News article: http://www.steampowered.com/v/index....s&id=952&cc=US

There ya go!

Molon Labe · 08-31-07, 12:06 PM

Be advised: The SCS download site to which these patch links point has been moved.

The new site is: http://www.sonalystscombatsims.com/d...ers/patch.html

Those of you who have links to the old site should update.

Palindromeria · 09-17-07, 07:38 PM

what the heck page not found i missed 1.04 grrr

Thank you very much for the correct link, Molon Labe

osteo · 01-18-12, 03:44 AM

03-07-12, 08:11 AM

@Neal
Please edit the first post with the new link. The one you posted is dead unfortunately.

01-29-07, 02:01 AM	#79
Bellman Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,945 Downloads: 220 Uploads: 0	Top screening is ineffective, however masking is nicely implemented by SCS and can be used in shallow waters. Depending on own depth, the SA may not pick up target sub running at or near peri depth on the opposite side of a surf. However if you can dive and/or deploy enough TA those faint tonals manifest. Masking is difficult to pull off and would I'm sure only be used by a diver in extremis and in most cases would not inhibit a skillful opponent. __________________ Liberty, Equality, Fraternity

01-30-07, 10:45 AM	#81
Pirate Lieutenant Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Oeiras, PORTUGAL Posts: 258 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	Is this the last patch sonalysts will deploy to DW or in the future will come the 1.05? __________________

01-30-07, 06:44 PM	#82
ASWnut101 Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: USA Posts: 2,021 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	And what about that depth charge that someone esle asked about? is it even used?:hmm: __________________

01-30-07, 10:40 PM	#83
LuftWolf Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: Free New York Posts: 3,167 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Helicopters equipped with depth charges will use them, and they are generally pretty effective. Cheers, David __________________ LW

02-07-07, 06:43 AM	#85
hachiman Planesman Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Edinburgh Jockland Posts: 199 Downloads: 33 Uploads: 0	Thanx for this and love the new 688I model. Those VLS tubes are sweet. __________________ Whats not to love about Submarines? Long'Hard and full of Seamen!!

01-28-07, 06:53 AM	#76
Dr.Sid The Old Man Join Date: May 2005 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Stars are pretty stand-alone. Their modifications does not collide with anything.

01-29-07, 07:47 AM	#80
Bera Gunner Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: São Paulo, Brazil Posts: 95 Downloads: 103 Uploads: 0	Still no news about the STEAM patch? Jamie said it would be avaliable due to the last weekend, but so far, nothing...

02-13-07, 10:31 AM	#86
Frying Tiger Sonalysts Man Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Waterford, CT Posts: 113 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Dangerous Waters Patch v1.04 / Steam 1.04 patch available Valve has updated Steam for Dangerous Waters. Link to the Steam News article: http://www.steampowered.com/v/index....s&id=952&cc=US There ya go! __________________ *Roger "Frying Tiger"* Long** Art Lead Sonalysts Combat Simulations "the atom-powered submarine: Her engines were to be a miracle of speed and power, her sides strong enough to withstand any blow... The mind of man had thought of everything - except that which was beyond his comprehension!"

08-31-07, 12:06 PM	#87
Molon Labe Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Along the Watchtower Posts: 3,810 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 5	Be advised: The SCS download site to which these patch links point has been moved. The new site is: http://www.sonalystscombatsims.com/d...ers/patch.html Those of you who have links to the old site should update. __________________

09-17-07, 07:38 PM	#88
Palindromeria Planesman Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Brooklyn NY Posts: 199 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	what the heck page not found i missed 1.04 grrr Thank you very much for the correct link, Molon Labe

01-18-12, 03:44 AM	#89
osteo Swabbie Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 0

03-07-12, 08:11 AM	#90
Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	@Neal Please edit the first post with the new link. The one you posted is dead unfortunately.