US Politics Thread 2021-24

[AVGWarhawk]

Start at .23 seconds into the video. This is what Dems are excited about?

[Buddahaid]

"...Trump's chances of winning the election in November look "bleak" after a new poll showed more Americans trust Kamala Harris with the economy, analysts told Newsweek."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...d=BingNewsSerp

[mapuc]

I thought a certain percentage of those who will vote Harris does it to prevent Trump from winning.

I sort of feel sorry for Trump-He love to be in the spotlight and now the spotlight is on Harris.

Trump should change attitude and concentrate on what politics he will be using when or if he wins. Only attacking Harris on her weak politics.

Because it's mystery for me that American who have had 4 years with Dems politics with open border as one of the problems, are going to give them 4 more years, like it would be a mystery for me that American will give Trump 4 more year.

Markus

[Von Due]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Does not appear to legit IMO.

Not gonna touch any interpretation of his mental state but apparently, he did claim fakery
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2lmm2wwlyo

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

"...Trump's chances of winning the election in November look "bleak" after a new poll showed more Americans trust Kamala Harris with the economy, analysts told Newsweek."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...d=BingNewsSerp

Yeah, sure. Everyone is struggling to pay for bills, etc. Harris will fix it. Utter BS

[AVGWarhawk]

Biden's election interference scheme. Any way to get a vote. Stacking the deck.

https://heritageaction.com/press/her...ference-scheme

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

"...Trump's chances of winning the election in November look "bleak" after a new poll showed more Americans trust Kamala Harris with the economy, analysts told Newsweek."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...d=BingNewsSerp

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I really hope Americans are not as stupid as you and that
Brit twat in London Giulia Carbonaro think they are. Harris/Biden had four years to fix the economy and it’s not getting better, contrary to what Biden said he did not “cure the economy”. If you read the July SLOOS & jobs reports they indicate the economy is actually getting worse and we can expect a hard landing and possibly a very long recession.

[August]

[Buddahaid]

[Jimbuna]

Trump and his allies once cheered hacked materials. No longer, now that they say he's a target

Donald Trump was once a cheerleader of publicizing hacked materials. “Russia, if you're listening,” Trump said during a press conference in his 2016 presidential run, when Hillary Clinton's deleted personal emails were a hot topic, “I hope you are able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing.”

“I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press,” he said back then.

That changed when Trump's latest presidential campaign declared this weekend it had been hacked by Iran. "Any media or news outlet reprinting documents or internal communications are doing the bidding of America’s enemies and doing exactly what they want,” Steven Cheung, the campaign's communications director, said in a statement on Saturday announcing that the campaign had been hacked.
The campaign has not responded to questions about why its view on hacking changed, including a query on Monday from The Associated Press. But its new position is a striking change from 2016, when Trump heartily embraced the Russian hacking of his opponent Clinton's aides and the Democratic National Committee.

The current hack, so far, is murky.

On Friday, Microsoft issued a report stating that Iranian hackers tried to penetrate the account of an official with one of the presidential campaigns, but did not disclose additional details. On Saturday, the Trump campaign announced it had been hacked, though it also did not identify the individual whose account was breached. It did so after Politico said it had been contacted by an unknown source peddling what was represented to be internal documents from the campaign.

Iran has denied being involved in any hack. The U.S. government has not confirmed that any breach has occurred. On Monday, the FBI said in a statement it was investigating the matter.

In 2016, intelligence officials said Russian hackers obtained thousands of emails from the Democratic National Committee, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and the personal account of Clinton's campaign chairman, John Podesta. The initial batches came out in the summer, as Clinton clinched the Democratic nomination.

That was when Trump encouraged Russia to find his rival's personal emails. He later argued he was joking.

The hacked material was released through third parties, including the online site Wikileaks, which began to publish daily tranches of Democratic documents in October, just after a videotape of Trump bragging about how he'd sexually assaulted women was disclosed.

Trump routinely touted the Democratic leaks at his campaign rallies, including declaring at one: “I love Wikileaks."

The leaked documents received ample news coverage, and Kathleen Hall Jamieson, a communications professor at the University of Pennsylvania who wrote the book “Cyberwar” on the 2016 hacking, said she found that coverage was what won the election for Trump.

“2016 was not an instance of which journalists should be proud,” Jamieson said in an interview Monday, adding that the greatest question is how news organizations apply their standards to whatever material finds itself in the public domain.

“That Trump is saying what is electorally convenient is not a surprise,” Jamieson said. “This is not a person for whom inconsistency is a concern.”

Nick Merrill was a spokesman for Clinton's 2016 campaign and pushed back against publication of the hacked documents at the time. On Monday, he noted the Trump campaign was in a similar role this time.

“In addition to the characteristic hypocrisy, they just spent three weeks trying to explain they're not weird,” Merrill said via text. “And I'd imagine that sharing their internal correspondence is going to help dispel that notion.”

Asked if that meant he now thought hacked materials should be published, Merrill replied: “A precedent has been set here. I'm not passing judgment on it.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/polit...97c493cb&ei=27

[Buddahaid]

[Jimbuna]

Still a long way to go yet but I'm not sure Trump was expecting this.

Bombshell poll shows presidential candidate taking five-point lead

Kamala Harris maintains a lead on Donald Trump both overall and with independent voters in a new poll. Harris is ahead with 47% while former President Trump is on 44%, according to a survey of 11,778 voters conducted by Morning Consult between August 9 and 11.

The current vice president was at 48% in the same poll last week but maintains that survey's 42-37 lead over Trump with independent voters. At least 12% said they would vote for an independent. Morning Consult has had Harris in the lead in every poll they've taken since the end of July when they started surveying her against Trump.

The survey was the first one the pollster has taken since Harris announced Minnesota Governor Tim Walz as her running mate. Harris' top demographics include black voters (73%-18%) and voters aged 18-34 (48%-41%). That matches up with a new poll of Gen Z and millennial voters in battleground states found the vice president leading the ex-president 51 percent to 42 percent in a head-to-head matchup.

The poll sponsored by Don't PAC Down, which surveyed voters ages 18 to 29 across eight crucial states, is a major shift from before President Biden dropped out of the race last month. Harris has continued her recent surge in popularity with 49% of voters viewing her favorably vs. 47% viewing her negatively, where as Trump's net favorables are at a minus-12. However, the Harris honeymoon may be on the wane, as not only did she drop by one point from last week, voters have their most negative view of the economy in the survey's last year of polling.

The recent downturn - which Trump has referred to as the 'Kamala Crash' - has negative opinions of the economy out-rating positive ones by 24 points. Trump was the red-hot favorite last month when he triumphantly appeared at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee after being shot in an assassination attempt in Butler, Pennsylvania.

But after Harris took over from Biden, the liberal media has gone full-swing behind her campaign and she has seized momentum. The latest polling average from Real Clear Politics shows that Harris has a half-point lead over Trump. In the betting averages that lead is higher at 5.8 percentage points. In one recent example, Harris was more trusted on the economy than Trump - marking a big shift in voter sentiment following Biden's decision to drop out. The survey, for the Financial Times and the Ross School of Business, found that Harris had a 1-point advantage. It is the first time a Democrat presidential candidate has led Trump on the economy since the poll started tracking voter sentiment on the issue almost a year ago.

Another poll by New York Times / Siena College last week found that Harris has moved ahead in the key battleground states of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Among likely voters in each state, 50 percent said they would likely vote for Harris while 46 for Trump.

Trump has begun his fight back Monday with a much-hyped interview with Elon Musk on X Spaces, however it drew some controversy after it started late due to technical snafus . However, donors are worried about Trump's recent strategy, according to The New York Times. At an August 2 dinner in The Hamptons, Trump's big backers hoped he would 'signal that he was recalibrating after a series of damaging mistakes.' But he discussed his 'stop the steal' claims about the election being rigged in 2020 which advisers have reportedly told him to drop.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...&ei=22#image=1

[Buddahaid]

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

He is attacking him for his apparent stolen valor. Should he kiss Walz ass because he is entitled to the GI Bill for college?

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

I stopped at the first 15 seconds. Kamala Harris is not protecting democracy. 14 million votes for Biden were shat on. Kamala was installed without 1 vote. That is not protecting democracy.