US Politics Thread 2016-2020 - Page 589

Mr Quatro · 03-06-20, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by u crank

It isn't Bernie's policies that Democrats don't like. For the most part they are all in with almost everything Sanders is selling. They don't like Bernie personally because of his history and his rhetoric but there isn't much difference in the political philosophy.

Bernie and his supporters will again cry foul if Sanders is denied. But it is Sanders' own fault. He is not a Democrat and he is very open about destroying the Democrat party and replacing it with something else. How did he think they would respond?

Your usually right u crank, but this time I'm going with why the DNC is against Bernie being too socialist not just today, but from the beginning.

Bernie's theories won't work and he has never proven that he can get anything done besides mobilize a lot of other poor people into supporting him with small donations.

Bernie can't win due to he is completely opposite of Trump making it one of those who should lead the country into the next quarter century.

Remember a lot of voters will decide in the next few months and the GOP will pull the plug on socialism if Bernie is the candidate, but good old sleepy Joe is their man and he can't win either.

Mr Quatro · 03-06-20, 10:56 AM

So this is the real reason why President Obama moved to the east coast

https://nypost.com/2020/01/29/joe-bi...jV08S6fanj0yC8

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Democratic presidential contender Joe Biden this week reaffirmed his desire to have former first lady Michelle Obama be his running mate.

“I sure would like Michelle [Obama] to be the vice president,” Biden said Tuesday at a campaign stop in Muscatine, Iowa.

Buddahaid · 03-06-20, 12:49 PM

I fail to see how where one has their primary residence makes any difference unless running for local office.

mapuc · 03-06-20, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Jim, Lizzy aligned with what people wanted to hear. Bernie does the same. In fact, they all say what they believe votes want to hear. This practice has gone on for decades and the American voters still fall for it.

Ok maybe there's a different between American politicians and its politics and European.

´cause here the politicians do know what their voters want to hear.

Markus

Buddahaid · 03-06-20, 01:02 PM

What other choice is there. There's no falling for it, it's the only game out there for all parties and candidates.

AVGWarhawk · 03-06-20, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Believe me Chris, the UK is no different

It truly is astonishing. Election after election the same song and dance. Nothing is done. Free college? Really? Don't drink the Kool Aid. Free healthcare for all. Where have we heard this? Well, way back during Bill Clinton's administration Hillary was heading up a universal healthcare program for all. Still don' have it yet all running are talking a good game about it. Many run to voting booth so the government can pay their mortgage. No wait, that was an Obama support who believed Obama would pay her mortgage.

AVGWarhawk · 03-06-20, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Buddahaid

What other choice is there. There's no falling for it, it's the only game out there for all parties and candidates.

So voters vote for it and sit back instead of holding these idiots accountable? Yes, yes they do and the cycle continues with blowing smoke up their rear ends. These politicians laugh all the way to millions in retirement funds, a pension and their free healthcare.

ET2SN · 03-06-20, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Free healthcare for all. Where have we heard this?

Just to the north in Canada.

Or, most of Europe.

It isn't free health care. Its single payer heath care subsided by the tax payers.
Kinda like the VA without active duty time.

The real problem is the pharmaceutical companies and doctor organizations drop a green brick in their pants when they hear it. "Single payer" means one entity has a massive amount of bargaining power.

AVGWarhawk · 03-06-20, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ET2SN

Just to the north in Canada.

Or, most of Europe.

It isn't free health care. Its single payer heath care subsided by the tax payers.
Kinda like the VA without active duty time.

The real problem is the pharmaceutical companies and doctor organizations drop a green brick in their pants when they hear it. "Single payer" means one entity has a massive amount of bargaining power.

Big Pharma is an issue for sure. By and large we need tort reform as well.

August · 03-06-20, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Big Pharma is an issue for sure. By and large we need tort reform as well.

Tort reform usually means limiting how much the little guy can be awarded in compensation.

Onkel Neal · 03-08-20, 07:30 PM

Trump

vs
Biden

Sailor Steve · 03-08-20, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ET2SN

It isn't free health care. Its single payer heath care subsided by the tax payers.
Kinda like the VA without active duty time.

Yep

I spend half my time these days visiting the VA Medical Center.

The other half is spent feeling guilty because I'm not paying for it.

em2nought · 03-09-20, 02:19 AM

Oh man, I really, really, really want one of those "MAGA" surgical masks.

Skybird · 03-09-20, 06:38 AM

Subsim General Topics knows this underhanded tactic all too well. Its usually called "ripping quotes out of context".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51799366

Rockstar · 03-09-20, 01:46 PM

https://theweek.com/speedreads/90076...now-what-means

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Trump retweets White House photo of him fiddling, says he doesn't know 'what this means'

March 8, 2020
If anybody else had tweeted a doctored photo of President Trump playing the fiddle as the new coronavirus spreads throughout the U.S. and wreaks havoc on the U.S. and global economies, the White House would probably protest vociferously. When White House social media director Dan Scavino tweeted out such a photo, saying Trump's next tune is "Nothing can stop what's coming," though, Trump retweeted it with the message: "Who knows what this means, but it sounds good to me!'"

Who knows what this means, but it sounds good to me! https://t.co/rQVA4ER0PV
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 8, 2020

Trump, of course, wasn't playing the violin over the weekend — he was playing golf at his private club in Florida. And since historical and cultural references to leaders fiddling are scarce, especially in times of disaster, lots of people on social media had no problem identifying what they believed the meme meant. Some were curious why Scavino tweeted it, however, or why Trump retweeted it.

After your followers google "nero" and "fiddle," they're going to demand you fire Dan Scavino for sabotaging you this way.
— Walter Shaub (@waltshaub) March 8, 2020

Scavino is a federal employee — not a member of Trump's campaign, despite his normal posts — so maybe he's trying to warn Americans about the mood in the White House. Whatever it means, it sounds good to Trump. Which is another way of saying: Wash your hands thoroughly for 20 seconds with soap, and try not to touch your face. Peter Weber

03-06-20, 12:49 PM	#8823
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,574 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	I fail to see how where one has their primary residence makes any difference unless running for local office. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

03-06-20, 01:02 PM	#8825
Buddahaid Shark above Space Chicken Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 8,574 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 0	What other choice is there. There's no falling for it, it's the only game out there for all parties and candidates. __________________ "However vast the darkness, we must provide our own light." Stanley Kubrick "Tomorrow belongs to those who can hear it coming." David Bowie

03-09-20, 02:19 AM	#8833
em2nought Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,307 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Oh man, I really, really, really want one of those "MAGA" surgical masks. __________________ ISRAEL: Essentially "The Alamo" 24/7, 365 since 1947

03-09-20, 06:38 AM	#8834
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,655 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Subsim General Topics knows this underhanded tactic all too well. Its usually called "ripping quotes out of context". https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51799366 __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

03-08-20, 07:30 PM	#8831
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,294 Downloads: 534 Uploads: 224	Trump vs Biden