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12-17-18, 09:44 AM | #8791 |
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As the recent trade history shows, WTO is not very good at promoting free trade.
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The UK now has many camps battling each other, which si their greatest handicap. But what the UK wants and offers, they have said relatvoey early on already. It just was not what the EU wanted. An in all points, the concessions were made by the UK, and I do not know of any signfivcant point where the EU made any. So much for compromise - in this draft deal, it is a one-way road only. That some countries want one country to pay for something, does not automatically give them claim for this country. The UK agreed to plannings in the past BEFORE the maority of the referendu voters said they want to leave. That there thus must be an end to the UK payng for these things, is natural. Reason also would demand that the UK, even after a leave, keeps a say on all things it has agreed to continue paying for, since that also was part of the dcision why they earlier agreed to pay for them. You are absolutely biased and one-sided here. If you ent a flat and then tell the landlord that you leave again some years later, you are under no obligation to endlessly pay a rent nevertheless. The transition period is limited, and has been cut even shorter by courts some years ago. Only deliveries to your old adress that you have ordered, must be paid for by yourself, even if you already have left, else they RTS. In general you say that the UK shuld not even leave, not to mention: stop paying, becasue in the future EU states planned to have a profit from this net payer'S contributions. In my book that borders enslavement. A people has no claim for other people. A people cannot own other people. A people does not live for the sake of having another people profiting from them. The EU has to change its highflying plans. Well, what a shock. Many of them are wrong by their mere intention and content anyway. Quote:
Under the premisse to have a say in them and remaining to stay in the EU. You can expect them to pay on only for things they have said yes to since the Brexit vote. Quote:
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There sill is an underlying claim if Brussel for the UK. They do not accept their leave, and they do not plan to let them really go. That simpe it is. Its like with the Mafia. you do not leave the family - except with feet first. Quote:
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That I augh about the highflying plans for a European nified ilitary, is known by now.Natiosn that cannot even handle their own national defences and budgets, should be able to now finance even somethign bigger and more complex? BS. The experiences of insiders with the French-German brigae, teach some elssons. They are absolutely sobering. Quote:
There is no raosn why the eU and the UK should not be trading partners. The eu trades with many actors that are no EU members, without demanding them to obey EU interventions into their sovereingty. But with London they demand it? Why? Londown will not be EU memeber, so it falls not under EU legislation, end of message, live with it, period. And if you piss this single actor too much, don'Ät be surorised that he may choose to show you a scnd stining finger then and withdrawing from the defenc eunion as well, telling you: your business, take care of it yourself, we're out of standign guard for you bullying us. Quote:
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12-17-18, 10:02 AM | #8793 | |
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Bottom line: What a bloody mess. @SKY....saved me the effort
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12-17-18, 10:12 AM | #8794 |
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IF...A general election is called jim I think the Conservatives will win but Labour will gain more seats. Result hung parliament and the Cons will have to work with Lab result six months down the line it will fall apart and they will hold another general election as they will not step aside for Labour off their own backs.
With luck the mighty STEED with his great ideas will change Parliament for the better, well I can hope can't I. Oh wait news just in Parliament has said no as we like the rotten system as it is. OH BLEEPING BLEEP WE ARE BLEEPED.
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12-17-18, 01:41 PM | #8795 | |
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well that will achieve nothing.
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12-17-18, 04:01 PM | #8796 |
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Only time will terll but currently.....anything is not beyond the bounds of possibility.
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12-17-18, 04:06 PM | #8797 | ||
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46599895
The gloves are off, the government has said there will be no debate and Labour has come back saying they will up the anti if they are stopped from having the debate. UPDATE Some more news from SKY Quote:
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12-17-18, 04:21 PM | #8798 |
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MPs to vote on Brexit deal on third week of January
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/brexi...id=mailsignout
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12-17-18, 04:33 PM | #8799 |
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Theresa May has attacked one of her predecessors - accusing Tony Blair of "undermining" the Brexit talks by calling for another referendum.
She called his comments an "insult to the office he once held" and said MPs could not "abdicate responsibility" to deliver Brexit by holding a new poll. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46582705
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12-17-18, 04:47 PM | #8800 |
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Just had to post this, Ann being an old aquaintance of mine
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12-18-18, 01:41 PM | #8801 |
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Wow all that hot news yesterday fizzed away. Screw you media I'm not going the fall for it again.
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12-18-18, 01:59 PM | #8802 | |
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Both sides are now at deadlock in this game of 'chicken' so let us see which side if any blinks first.
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12-18-18, 02:05 PM | #8803 |
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Just more evidence that our politicians are bloody awful useless wast of space......Oh man I could go on all night.
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12-18-18, 02:08 PM | #8804 |
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Yes we are all well aware of that.
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12-18-18, 02:11 PM | #8805 |
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