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Old 12-13-22, 04:13 PM   #8716
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Or if he's gonna hide in some bunker near Ural mountain

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Old 12-13-22, 05:04 PM   #8717
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^ Scholz will never learn or accept that he is wrong since decades, he has to go.
Not as long as the socialist world revolution is not completed and not everyone feels as his and her neighbor's closest brother or sister or diverse and addresses him or her or it with "Du" or "Genossinnen und Genossen".
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Royal Marines have taken part in 'high-risk' covert operations in Ukraine, general reveals

Royal Marines were deployed in Ukraine and took part in a series of 'high-risk' operations, a former commandant general has claimed.

The commandos were involved in 'discreet operations' and performed tasks in a 'hugely sensitive environment', according to Lieutenant General Robert Magowan - Britain's Deputy Chief of the Defence Staff and the former head of the Royal Marines.

The Ministry of Defence reported earlier this year that a small contingent of British military personnel was stationed in Ukraine to secure the British embassy in Kyiv and maintain the government's diplomatic presence there.

But Lt. Gen. Magowan's admission is the first time a senior military official has confirmed that British marines were deployed to Ukraine in the face of the Russian invasion.

In comments published in the Globe and Laurel - the official magazine of the Royal Marines - Lt. Magowan said: 'In January this year, 45 Commando Group deployed at short notice — from the depths of a dark, north Norwegian winter, to evacuate the British embassy in Kyiv to Poland. The go-to 999 international emergency force, if you will.

'Then in April, they returned into the country to re-establish the diplomatic mission, providing protection to critical personnel. During both phases, the commandos supported other discreet operations in a hugely sensitive environment and with a high level of political and military risk.'

A Royal Navy Spokesperson told MailOnline: 'Royal Marines were deployed to Ukraine to support the UK's diplomatic presence in the country; they served no combat function.'

Prior to the Russian invasion on February 24, British defence minister Ben Wallace said that a small contingent of military personnel had been to Ukraine to deliver weapons and training as the threat of war increased.

And it was later reported that British military personnel, including SAS operators, had been sent to deliver weapons systems training to Ukrainian servicemen once the war had begun.

But the MoD at the time insisted no British servicemen were involved in combat operations, stating: 'British military personnel have been deployed to support discussions around the significant training being offered to the Armed Forces of Ukraine by the UK.

'They serve no combat function.'

The 45 Commando group are specialists in Arctic warfare and were deployed on a training exercise in Norway before being requisitioned and deployed to Ukraine to perform rapid evacuations of embassy staff.

Evacuations of key officials and diplomats took place from Kyiv took place just prior to Russia's invasion.

The marines then in March returned to Norway where they took part in the largest NATO military exercise since the 1980s.

Roughly 30,000 troops from 28 countries in Europe and North America were involved in the Cold Response 2022 drills.

The drills aimed to show how a unified multilateral force would defend Norway and Europe's northern flank from a modern adversary.

But Magowan's admission suggests several marines then returned to Kyiv just one month after the exercises to conduct covert operations amid the war in Ukraine.
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Disputes are raging among the Russian military about waging war against Ukraine, - British intelligence

The Russian military is arguing over the choice of strategy for waging war against Ukraine. Some believe that the management has chosen the wrong path.

This is evidenced by the data of British intelligence, Censor.NET reports with reference to the Twitter of the Ministry of Defense of Great Britain.

British intelligence refers to recent statements by terrorist and militant Igor Girkin (Strelkov). He claims that he spent two months on the front line as part of a battalion of the so-called "DPR". Girkin ridiculed the orders of the leadership of the Russian army to build large defensive structures, questioning their usefulness in modern warfare. The militant declared a "strategic planning crisis."

"His comments highlight the raging debate about the conduct of war that continues in Russia's military community," the intelligence said.

At the same time, British intelligence officers cannot confirm the rumors about the dismissal of the head of the General Staff of the Russian Federation Valery Gerasimov. However, it is known that the tension among the military has reached its peak. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3386884

US Ambassador Brink on morning attack by kamikaze drones: "More aid for Ukraine is on way"

US Ambassador Bridget Brink commented on the morning attack by the Russian Federation with kamikaze drones and said that help for Ukraine is on the way.

She announced this on Twitter, Censor.NET reports.

"Drones are in Kyiv this morning, but I know that waking up to Russian bombs has already become too frequent a phenomenon that Ukrainians are experiencing with courage and dignity all over Ukraine. We are with you - even more, help is on the way," the diplomat said. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3386900

Russian Federation is trying to use kamikaze drones at night and scouting for air defense weaknesses, - Air Force

The Russian invaders conduct reconnaissance on the eve of the strike mission in order to avoid falling into the air defense zone.

This was announced by Air Force spokesman Yurii Ihnat during the telethon, Censor.NET informs.

"The tactics inherent in the use of these UAVs is night. Conditions of poor visibility, because at night it is difficult to detect them visually with the means by which they are shot down - these are small arms, anti-aircraft guns. That's why it's radar devices that detect them, and anti-aircraft missile systems and other weapons shoot them down," he explained.

"Using the riverbeds and those areas that the enemy scouts, where we may have certain weak points, strong points - this is all the enemy discovers. It conducts reconnaissance on the eve of the strike mission, thus trying to avoid falling into the range of our air defense systems," the Air Force spokesman added. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3386903
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Total combat losses of Russian Federation since beginning of war - about 96,000 people (+740 per day), 2,970 tanks, 1,931 artillery systems, 5,937 armored vehicles. INFOGRAPHICS

The Russian occupiers, who invaded the territory of Ukraine, continue to suffer losses. As of the morning of December 14, the loss of enemy personnel are approximately 96,000.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the press center of the General Staff.

As noted, the total combat losses of the enemy from 24/02 to 14/12 are approximately:

personnel - about 96,000 (+740) people were eliminated,
tanks - 2970 (+4) units,
armored combat vehicles - 5937 (+7) units,
MLRS - 404 (+0) units,
Anti-aircraft warfare systems - 211 (+0) units,
aircraft - 281 (+0) units,
helicopters - 264 (+0) units,
UAV of operational-tactical level - 1617 (+0),
cruise missiles - 592 (+0),
Warships/boats - 16 (+0) units,
automotive equipment and tank trucks - 4562 (+13) units,
special equipment - 171 (+1). Source: https://censor.net/en/n3386889
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Old 12-14-22, 01:00 PM   #8725
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/\ I prefer "Vlad the Rapist" as a captain is held responsible for the conduct of his troops; as evidenced by the multiple executions of defeated Nazi and Japanese generals following WWII. Putin, after helping NATO win by his micro-mismanagement of the ground war in Ukraine, needs to be taken into custody and put on trial. Even Emperor Hirohito was considered for war crimes but MacArthur deemed him necessary to postwar harmony in the the Nipponese restoration; now proving useful in the impending deterioration of Chinese/puppet-state N.Korean sabre-rattling. That Russia is even allowed to function at the UN, much less on the Security Council, is utterly incomprehensible to me. We r well on course since my earlier post: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho...postcount=5507
In this morning's paper: Russia was booted out of the League of Nations in 1939 for its invasion of Finland...so there is precedent for removing it again from the present successor, the United Nations.... if nothing else, communist countries are particularly sensitive to "loss of face" on the international stage. In addition to the horrendous casualties and awful demonstration of military prowess that leaves even their Chinese allies wondering at the miscalculation of the 'snatch and grab' tactics of Hitler's 1939 lightning-war. IE: Grabbing Ukrainian territory is one thing; holding it is another; and copycat Putler doesn't have the rubles to build another "Iron Curtain" from northernmost Estonia to the Crimea this time around, alà Ol' Adolf's'' breeched 'Atlantic Wall'!??
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German opposition leader Mertz called on German government to hand over tanks to Ukraine

German opposition leader Friedrich Merz demands that the federal government supply Ukraine with battle tanks and armored personnel carriers.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to the EP.

"The more we help, the sooner this war will end," he said in response to Chancellor Olaf Scholz's statement in the Bundestag.

Mertz said that the government is being covered by NATO partners, but this is a mistake.

"It's mostly up to you," Mertz told the chancellor, adding that the government could easily provide heavy equipment. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3386943

EU provided 500 million euros as part of exceptional macro-financial assistance to Ukraine

The European Union allocated a tranche in the amount of 500 million euros as part of exceptional macro-financial assistance to Ukraine

This was reported by the press service of the European Commission, Censor.NET reports.

"Today we paid out the 3rd tranche for €500 million as part of the exceptional macro-financial assistance to Ukraine for €5 billion for 2022. This will contribute to the macroeconomic stability of Ukraine and strengthen its overall economic and financial stability," the message reads. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3386952

Holiday truce is not on agenda, - Peskov

The Kremlin says it has not received any proposals from Kyiv to end hostilities in Ukraine for the upcoming holidays, and a ceasefire is not on Moscow’s agenda.

This is reported by Censor.NET with reference to Radio Liberty.

"No, no proposals have been received from anyone, and no topic of this kind is on the agenda," said the spokesman of the Russian dictator, Dmytro Peskov, when asked if Russia would stop hostilities on New Year's or Christmas.

Peskov also said that "the primary task is to protect people in the LPR and the DPR." Source: https://censor.net/en/n3386964

Zelenskyi called on European Parliament to adopt resolution on creation of special tribunal on Russia’s crimes in Ukraine

Ukraine calls on the European Parliament to adopt a separate resolution on creating a special tribunal on the crime of Russian aggression against Ukraine.

This is stated in the address of President Volodymyr Zelenskyi, delivered during an online speech in the European Parliament at the Andriy Sakharov award ceremony, Censor.NET reports.

"I am grateful to everyone who investigates and helps investigate the crimes of the occupiers in Ukraine, who are looking for information about Russian murderers and terrorists. I am grateful to the International Criminal Court, which works closely with Ukrainian prosecutors and has a clear intention to bring justice to what the occupiers have committed on the territory of our country." , - noted Zelenskyi.

The head of state expressed his gratitude to all countries, politicians, and international organizations that work together with Ukraine and make every possible effort to create a tribunal for the Russian Federation.

"I call on all of you, your parties, and states to support this work. The tribunal must work. The European Parliament has already supported this idea, it must be made a reality as soon as possible, in particular through the adoption of a different resolution of the European Parliament in support of the creation of the tribunal, through your support and your country's support for the corresponding resolution of the UN General Assembly," Zelenskyi urged. Source: https://censor.net/en/n3386997
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Ombudsman: Children's torture chamber found in liberated Kherson.

Ukrainian authorities discovered a room that Russians used to detain and torture children during the occupation of Kherson, Dmytro Lubinets, the Human Rights Commissioner of the Verkhovna Rada, said on Dec. 14. According to testimonies from locals, other torture victims in the facility knew that Ukrainian children had been kept there by Russian security services, who had called the room “a children's cell.” https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/...37980817506315

Russians torture Ukrainian children and even "set up" separate torture chambers for this purpose, – the parliament Commissioner for Human Rights, – Dmytro Lubinets. In Kherson, one of the torture chambers had a cell for children. One 14-year-old boy was detained and tortured just for taking pictures of broken Russian equipment, – Dmytro Lubinets reports. https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/st...41608756338690

Lubinets said that Russians kept a boy in one of the detention centers in Balakliya for 90 days. "He said that he was tortured: they cut him with a knife, heated metal and burned a part of his body, several times they took him to the execution and shot him over the head," - the Ombudsman said. In Kherson in one of the torture chambers there was a separate cell where children were kept. "It was recorded that children were given water every other day, almost no food. They used psychological pressure: they told them that their parents had abandoned them, that they would not return," Lubinets said. https://twitter.com/Lyla_lilas/statu...42758729650178

Really have no words for this, how low can you be to torture children.
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74% of EU citizens approve of European Union support for Ukraine in the struggle against Putin’s Russia.

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^^ I so truly hope it's false alarm-I can't fathom the fact that Russia should have tortured children.

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