US Politics Thread 2021-24

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Could well be but I'm wondering if Trump is worried he may now look like the only remaining senile old man in the race for the POTUS

Harris must surely be more accomplished (given the right coaching obviously) at debating than Biden is.

She is not accomplished. Her debate performance in 2020 forced her drop out in 4 days.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

She is not accomplished. Her debate performance in 2020 forced her drop out in 4 days.

Not even with the right coaching?

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Not even with the right coaching?

You can't coach out giggling and word salad. Harris is famous for both.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

You can't coach out giggling and word salad. Harris is famous for both.

Ah okay

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Trump backs out of debate as camp says it's 'inappropriate to schedule things with Harris'

According Sam Stein, of The Bulwark and MSNBC? Who the hell is Sam Stein and what does he have to do with scheduling Trump’s debates?

Id wager big money that if anyone in the Trump campaign did say its an inappropriate time. It would be due the fact Democrats have yet to formerly nominate a president or a vice president. Makes perfect sense to want to wait for that to happen first don’t you think?

That way if Harris botched the debate before she’s even nominated they can’t pull a switcheroo like they did with Biden when he made a fool of himself.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

According Sam Stein, of The Bulwark and MSNBC? Who the hell is Sam Stein and what does he have to do with scheduling Trump’s debates?

Id wager big money that if anyone in the Trump campaign did say its not an appropriate time. It would be due the fact Democrats have yet to formerly nominate a president or a vice president. Makes perfect sense to want to wait for that to happen first don’t you think?

Otherwise if Harris botched the debate before she’s even nominated they can’t pull a switcheroo like they did with Biden when he made a fool of himself.

Two things:

1. Formal debates occur after both nominations are complete. Note, the dems agreed to debate PRIOR to Joe Biden being nominated officially. This IMO was by design and the true groundwork for giving Biden the boot.

2. Trumps campaign staff needs to regroup because they were baited with Biden and planned accordingly. Then the dems did the switch. Now, it is best to let the "We love Kamala" fanfare to die down. Give the general public time to really see Harris as so far left she is beyond plant Pluto.

Let Harris talk as much as she likes. It will be quite evident she is not up to the task. She will be seen as a puppet. And the continual use of racism and sexism will not serve her well. If there truly was racism or sexism she would not be VP. Racism narrative left the building after Obama two terms.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Two things:

1. Formal debates occur after both nominations are complete. Note, the dems agreed to debate PRIOR to Joe Biden being nominated officially. This IMO was by design and the true groundwork for giving Biden the boot.

Now we wait for the opposition party’s delegates vote a second time to nominate another candidate before committing to a second debate. I believe the deadline for the Democrats to nominate Harris is August 7th.

2. Trumps campaign staff needs to regroup because they were baited with Biden and planned accordingly. Then the dems did the switch. Now, it is best to let the "We love Kamala" fanfare to die down. Give the general public time to really see Harris as so far left she is beyond plant Pluto.

Biden secured the nomination when delegates voted on March 12th. Conventions aren’t what they used to be decades ago. Today they’re held merely for the sake of procedure, an ornamental show. And I don’t think Trump campaign was baited into the debate either. His campaign knew full well Biden couldn’t succeed in the debate it was like stealing candy from a baby. Afterwards Trump even went so far as say Harris will be even be easier to beat. Only time can tell if he’s telling the truth.

Let Harris talk as much as she likes. It will be quite evident she is not up to the task. She will be seen as a puppet. And the continual use of racism and sexism will not serve her well. If there truly was racism or sexism she would not be VP. Racism narrative left the building after Obama two terms.

I agree.

Anyway, my first response was to the usual suspects click bait story written by some guy apparently making up a story without any sources. Hell, it didn’t even claim ‘anonymous top officials’ like they usually do. Crazy thing here we are talking about it now like it was real investigative journalism.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Now we wait for the opposition party’s delegates vote a second time to nominate another candidate before committing to a second debate. I believe the deadline for the Democrats to nominate Harris is August 7th.



Biden secured the nomination when delegates voted on March 12th. Conventions aren’t what they used to be decades ago. Today they’re held merely for the sake of procedure, an ornamental show. And I don’t think Trump campaign was baited into the debate either. His campaign knew full well Biden couldn’t succeed in the debate it was like stealing candy from a baby. Afterwards Trump even went so far as say Harris will be even be easier to beat. Only time can tell if he’s telling the truth.



I agree.

Anyway, my first response was to the usual suspects click bait story written by some guy apparently making up a story without any sources. Hell, it didn’t even claim ‘anonymous top officials’ like they usually do. Crazy thing here we are talking about it now like it was real investigative journalism.

[August]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Two things:

1. Formal debates occur after both nominations are complete. Note, the dems agreed to debate PRIOR to Joe Biden being nominated officially. This IMO was by design and the true groundwork for giving Biden the boot.

This ^

An unheard of pre-convention debate and the rules also leveled the playing field compared to previous ones giving Biden plenty of opportunity to soil himself. It had to be a way to break his lock on the party delegates. Without it they wouldn't have had the political ammo required to force him out.

[August]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Could well be but I'm wondering if Trump is worried he may now look like the only remaining senile old man in the race for the POTUS

I'm thinking that until she is declared the nominee it would be pointless to schedule a debate. There will be plenty of time to reschedule with whoever walks out of the Dem convention as their official no take backs nominee.

Harris must surely be more accomplished (given the right coaching obviously) at debating than Biden is.

I doubt it. Tulsi Gabbard had absolutely no problem making her look like a complete idiot during the dem primary debates in 2020. She is really as empty headed as she has repeatedly shown herself to be.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by August

She is really as empty headed

Depends on who she is with.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

You can't coach out giggling and word salad. Harris is famous for both.

He, I'm carnivore. No salad for me, please!

[Buddahaid]

And she will be your next president.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

And she will be your next president.

Do not count your chickens yet. The border issue she chose to ignore and the media doing their best to rewrite history concerning this issue will be her roadblock to the White House. Very glaring issue. As well as her other lack luster resume.

And what of her running mate? Can make or break a campaign. John McCain will tell you.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

And she will be your next president.

Now that Inverse Cramer has spoken I’m afraid the Harris campaign no longer has a chance.

Kamala Harris would “absolutely, absolutely, no doubt about it” be good for the stock market and American business, Jim Cramer has said.