US Politics Thread 2021-24

[Gorpet]

Well we had covid-19, That was a test to kill millions, It was spectacular, All these politicians, let's get rid of them! And the only way is Nuclear War So let's get this show on the road, And by 2084 if we can find a politician we will damn sure feed them to our dogs.

[Jimbuna]

Who is Mark Kelly? The astronaut who could be Kamala Harris’ running mate

Aformer fighter pilot and Nasa astronaut who has flown 20 million miles in space is a top contender to become Kamala Harris’s running mate.

Mark Kelly, 60, the Arizona senator, has a record of beating candidates endorsed by Donald Trump in the vital battleground state where Ms Harris is trailing her Republican rival.

He has commanded shuttle missions on the Discovery and Endeavour and flew 39 missions as a US navy pilot during the Gulf War before retiring to care for his wife who was shot in the head in an attempted assassination.

Democrat strategists told The Telegraph that Mr Kelly, who has a strong record on immigration, would be a “formidable choice” for Ms Harris and could help prop her up in her weaker areas.
Mr Kelly was among the potential vice-presidential candidates Ms Harris called after Joe Biden stepped down as the Democrat candidate.

An official vetting process then began and ABC reported that Mr Kelly and Josh Shapiro, the Pennsylvania governor, were the two leading contenders for the role.

Born and raised in New Jersey to two police officers, Mr Kelly’s mother became the first female officer at the West Orange Police Department.

Mr Kelly attended the United States Merchant Marine Academy before becoming a navy pilot. During his air force career, he was deployed several times on the aircraft carrier USS Midway and flew 39 combat missions in Operation Desert Storm.

He spent more than 50 days in space, travelling more than 20 million miles, after he and his identical twin brother, Scott, were selected as astronauts in the same Nasa class in 1996.

He retired from Nasa in 2011 after commanding Space Shuttle Endeavour on its final flight and after his wife, the former US representative wife Gabrielle Giffords, survived an assassination attempt in 2011.

Six people were killed in the attack in a supermarket in Tucson and Mr Kelly dedicated himself to helping Ms Giffords, who was left disabled after she was shot in the head.

The couple became vocal gun control advocates, starting gun control non-profit Giffords to call for stricter laws.

Mr Kelly entered politics in 2020, winning a difficult senate race to fill John McCain’s seat.

He was re-elected two years later, beating Republican Blake Masters, who had been endorsed by Trump, by more than 125,000 votes.

While Ms Harris has already been attacked by the Trump campaign as the “border tsar”, Mr Kelly was a vocal critic of some of Mr Biden’s policies such as reversing the Trump-era Title 42.

Mr Kelly also has a strong record for abortion. He pushed for access for women in Arizona, which has a 15-week ban.

Democrat strategist Jason Oritz said: “He’s run tough races in a tough state.”

He said that while Trump had selected JD Vance, who double’s down on the former president’s views, Mr Kelly would “differentiate the ticket” adding “a centrist Democrat from a purple state where Democrats need help”.

He said the Republicans “should be very nervous” about the potential running mate.

The Arizona senator was also described as the “smartest selection” by Washington Post columnist Karen Tumulty.

Mr Kelly has so far avoided questions about taking the job.

He told ABC News: “This is not about me. I’m going to be focused on doing everything I can to make sure she is elected because we cannot have a repeat of what we saw between 2016 and 2020.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...b7b5a536&ei=17

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Armistead

I am generally not a conspiracy theorist, but it's not adding up. Even if we admit a few mistakes can be made by the SS, how can we have so many failures one overlapping the other that came an inch from killing Trump. It seems the primary evidence to know who knew what and when would be the radio transmissions, but then we're told there were no recordings.... none. How can that be? I assume like police all the radio transmissions are saved on a server and someone would have to direct they be deleted or archived. This is as fishy as before the GOP majority took the house the House Select Committee on Jan 6th deleted more than 100 encrypted files and the SS erased text messages from January 5 and 6, 2021, as part of a ‘device-replacement program'... As we say here in the mountains, that dog don't hunt. It seems some powers that be had a plan A to take out Trump, that failing, plan B.. take out Joe. We are headed into uncharted waters and I fear a bad outcome.

On the Secret Service part I must admit to me it smells fishy, too. Too many erratic individual events all coming together.

Getting hit once: an accident.
Gettig hit twice: an unlucky coincidence.
Three and more hits: enemy action.

[mapuc]

I found it the answer to my question on what the General Attorney had sued New York for.

The Missouri attorney general, Andrew Bailey, has confirmed that he is suing the state of New York for election interference and wrongful prosecution for bringing the Stormy Daniels hush-money case to a trial that saw Donald Trump convicted of 34 felonies.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-lawsuit-trump

This comment was a little sidestep

Markus

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by August

You used to have to apply for one when you became old enough to work. I remember my dad taking me down to the SS office to get my number when I was in my early teens.

Most people apply for their new born children now to prevent ID theft.

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

That is an unsupported opinion disproven by over sixty lawsuits, etc. The real voter fraud in 2020 was seeking to replace the electorate vote with fraudulent certificates.

Anyway, I would suggest the reason the Trumpist GOP is a losing brand is it's not in tune with the majority of US citizens. It's backwards thinking trying to force an American mythology down the throats of a majority that don't buy into it.

Also, the GOP has proven by the current Congress that it can't govern, that it is broken into infighting factions, that it can never admit it's wrong about anything, can never compromise and will just keep steaming into the iceberg.

Al Capone was a murderer, thief, and smuggler, everyone knew it, they just couldn't "prove" it in a court of law. The same can be said for the "Mafia", and today the drug "Cartels". Voter fraud isn't any different, The justice department gets the "low hanging fruit" once in awhile, but the people running the show are too well insulated and voter fraud is most effective at the local/state level due to the varied election laws and procedures.

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

You know perfectly well where the push for that came from.

The "push" was a result of a bad ruling by the Supreme Court, even Justice Ginsburg (a prominent advocate of abortion rights) felt the decision was flawed. I'm with Trump on this, the question is not one for the Federal Government, It's a question each State must answer for itself, some of them will allow unfettered access to abortion, while others will heavily restrict access. If you don't like the abortion laws in your state you are still free to move to a state that aligns better with your moral code. People move from State to State for various reasons all the time.

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Biden will address the nation tonight. I'm sure he was unwilling to drop out but was convinced it was best. Sure, he could possibly win in Nov but what about the 4 years he needs to be working as president?

I'm not a Biden fan by any means, however, I feel a sad for Joe. He certainly did not want to finish out his 4 years like this.

God, I don't. He's just another sad career politician who lies and plagiarizes, lies about his lying, profits immensely from his office, lies about his past achievements, smiles when asked about his prosperity and numerous shell companies, acts supercreepy with children and women. His administration chopped 20% off my income with needless inflation his spending created, left hundreds of millions of dollars for military equipment to a terrorist govt, and firmly planted the seeds of this country's destruction with unchecked illegal immigration.

I would kick him down the stairs before I felt sorry for him.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

I would kick him down the stairs before I felt sorry for him.

I wouldn't go that far, but then again I wouldn't try to catch him if he tripped and fell either.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by MaDef

Most people apply for their new born children now to prevent ID theft.

Al Capone was a murderer, thief, and smuggler, everyone knew it, they just couldn't "prove" it in a court of law. The same can be said for the "Mafia", and today the drug "Cartels". Voter fraud isn't any different, The justice department gets the "low hanging fruit" once in awhile, but the people running the show are too well insulated and voter fraud is most effective at the local/state level due to the varied election laws and procedures.

Kimberly Zapata got herself thrown in jail proving how easy it is to stuff ballots.

[August]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Kimberly Zapata got herself thrown in jail proving how easy it is to stuff ballots.

Well probation and a small fine at least.

[Rockstar]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Only Fire & Brimstone I know.




Leeds caught fire. Maybe Paris will be next, July 26th is just few days away ya know.

Oh look, massive sabotage attack against France’s high-speed railway network on the opening day of the Paris Olympics. Arson attacks reported against critical infrastructure in several places and a major hacking attack. Thousands of passengers are stranded across the country.

My next prediction for more fire and brimstone will be
in Chicago outside the Democrat National Convention starting 19 Aug

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Rockstar

Oh look, massive sabotage attack against France’s high-speed railway network on the opening day of the Paris Olympics. Arson attacks reported against critical infrastructure in several places and a major hacking attack. Thousands of passengers are stranded across the country.

...and just like that "Team Middle East" enters the US presidential election!

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

God, I don't. He's just another sad career politician who lies and plagiarizes, lies about his lying, profits immensely from his office, lies about his past achievements, smiles when asked about his prosperity and numerous shell companies, acts supercreepy with children and women. His administration chopped 20% off my income with needless inflation his spending created, left hundreds of millions of dollars for military equipment to a terrorist govt, and firmly planted the seeds of this country's destruction with unchecked illegal immigration.

I would kick him down the stairs before I felt sorry for him.

Tell me how you really feel.

[Jimbuna]

Trump backs out of debate as camp says it's 'inappropriate to schedule things with Harris'

Donald Trump is reportedly backing out of a scheduled September debate.

That's according to Sam Stein, of The Bulwark and MSNBC, who wrote on the social media app X on Thursday night that the decision was made, "given the continued political chaos" surrounding Joe Biden and the Democrat Party.

The statement from the Trump campaign used attacking nicknames often deployed by the former president and said debate details could not be finalized until Democrats formally decide on a nominee.

"There is a strong sense by many in the Democrat Party - namely Barack Hussein Obama - that Kamala Harris is a Marxist fraud who cannot beat President Trump, and they are still holding out for someone 'better.' Therefore, it would be inappropriate to schedule things with Harris because Democrats very well could still change their minds," the statement said.
The ABC News debate had been scheduled for Sept. 10 and was initially to feature Biden and Trump.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...585adcfd&ei=14

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Trump backs out of debate as camp says it's 'inappropriate to schedule things with Harris'

One best thing Trump could do at this point is debate. Harris has nothing to run on except abortion rights. Her record is horrible in all facets of her career. Trump needs to drive home her horrible handling of resolving the border issue.

However, the media will have revisionist history of Harris career. Smelling like roses to be sure.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

One best thing Trump could do at this point is debate. Harris has nothing to run on except abortion rights. Her record is horrible in all facets of her career. Trump needs to drive home her horrible handling of resolving the border issue.

However, the media will have revisionist history of Harris career. Smelling like roses to be sure.

Could well be but I'm wondering if Trump is worried he may now look like the only remaining senile old man in the race for the POTUS

Harris must surely be more accomplished (given the right coaching obviously) at debating than Biden is.