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Old 08-31-21, 09:27 AM   #8296
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Old 08-31-21, 09:30 AM   #8297
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This isn’t polio. Polio was eradicated with the help of better personal hygiene and sanitation systems.
https://www.cdc.gov/polio/what-is-polio/polio-us.html

Personal hygiene and sanitation systems weren't an invention of the late 1950s.
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Old 08-31-21, 10:05 AM   #8298
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Don’t forget the human body was capable of defending itself against infection long before vaccines arrived. One only need look at the global population to see how well it works too. Especially in those third world over populated areas of the globe that don’t have advanced medicines.
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Old 08-31-21, 10:16 AM   #8299
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These debates with the goal of endlessly relativising the use of vaccines have long since turned surreal.



Everybody, fasten your seat belts or in case of a crash fly through the windshield, slit your arteries and bleed to death. Must I care? I must not care, and I am not interested. Honestly said I only care if I am expected to pay for your hospital stay - or if you think you have a right to deliberately slam with your car into me. Elsewise you can ruin your wellbeing in any way you want - I don't care.
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https://www.cdc.gov/polio/what-is-polio/polio-us.html

Personal hygiene and sanitation systems weren't an invention of the late 1950s.
You didn’t even bother reading your own link did you?

Here, this article from the U.S. National Library of Medicine actually talks about how sanititation improvements coupled with natural herd immunity played a roll in eradicating polio in the U.S. Weird thing though is they then go on and seem to say that these hygiene and sanitation improvements then caused pockets of polio outbreaks to resume in the U.S.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4108111/
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Old 08-31-21, 10:20 AM   #8301
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Don’t forget the human body was capable of defending itself against infection long before vaccines arrived. One only need look at the global population to see how well it works too. Especially in those third world over populated areas of the globe that don’t have advanced medicines.
Polio vaccines account for the majority of polio infections in Africa...

I'm guessing Arlo is one of those cee-you-in-toledo contrarians like the antifa scum who attack crowds of patriots in Portland while wishing death to all the cops - and then demand the cops protect them when patriots proceed to stomp their guts out.
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Old 08-31-21, 11:15 AM   #8302
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Polio vaccines account for the majority of polio infections in Africa...

I'm guessing Arlo is one of those cee-you-in-toledo contrarians like the antifa scum who attack crowds of patriots in Portland while wishing death to all the cops - and then demand the cops protect them when patriots proceed to stomp their guts out.
Wow. Maybe credible citation would help you not sound crazy. Credible ... not 'Q.'
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You didn’t even bother reading your own link did you?

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Weird thing though is they then go on and seem to say that these hygiene and sanitation improvements then caused pockets of polio outbreaks to resume in the U.S.
Yeah he's either pretty dense or as I suspect he is someone's 2nd account that they are using to play troll. Ignore him.

But regarding polio. From what I read it turns out that the polio virus was so common back in the day that before these modern hygiene improvement programs almost all infants were exposed to it while they were still being protected by the mothers immune system. Apparently it takes a few years for that benefit to wear off. By improving hygiene it delayed their exposure to the polio virus to an older age leaving them unprotected and often crippled or dead as a result.
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Yeah he's either pretty dense or as I suspect he is someone's 2nd account that they are using to play troll. Ignore him.

But regarding polio. From what I read it turns out that the polio virus was so common back in the day that before these modern hygiene improvement programs almost all infants were exposed to it while they were still being protected by the mothers immune system. Apparently it takes a few years for that benefit to wear off. By improving hygiene it delayed their exposure to the polio virus to an older age leaving them unprotected and often crippled or dead as a result.
Your hyperventilation during that post is damn near palpable.

https://www.newyorker.com/science/an...-saved-america

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It was a combination between better hygiene and the vaccine who got rid of Polio.

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Would Polio have disappeared if we only had improved on hygiene, but no vaccine ?
Would Polio have disappeared if we only had the vaccine, but miserable hygiene ?

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Wow. Maybe credible citation would help you not sound crazy. Credible ... not 'Q.'
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireSt...virus-67287290

https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...-of-wild-virus

https://apnews.com/article/virus-out...f011b960a152e9

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The Salk virus, used in the U.S., wasn't a live virus, dufus.
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… there’s promising news to be found within natural and acquired immunity statistics, according to virologists. As of May 29, CDC estimated more than 120 million Americans— more than one in three— had already battled Covid. While an estimated six-tenths of one-percent died, the other 99.4% of those infected survived with a presumed immune status that appears to be superior to that which comes with vaccination.

If doctors could routinely test to confirm who has fought off and become immune to Covid-19, it would eliminate the practical need or rationale for those protected millions to get vaccinated. It would also allow them to avoid even the slight risk of serious vaccine side effects.
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