Wuhan virus 2020 - Page 549

Jimbuna · 08-25-21, 07:10 AM

Skybird · 08-25-21, 09:23 AM

Oooops, no good news. Though not really unexpected.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/pfize...-likely-emerge

AVGWarhawk · 08-25-21, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Oooops, no good news. Though not really unexpected.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/pfize...-likely-emerge

And he is smiling all the way to the bank. So, are we to take vaccine after vaccine after vaccine? More boosters?

Rockstar · 08-25-21, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

And he is smiling all the way to the bank. So, are we to take vaccine after vaccine after vaccine? More boosters?

Those that manufacture the stuff would really like that.

Arlo · 08-25-21, 01:35 PM

It's almost as if some of you weren't around for Polio boosters.

AVGWarhawk · 08-25-21, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

Those that manufacture the stuff would really like that.

Yes they would.

Rockstar · 08-25-21, 02:05 PM

The Bizarre Refusal to Apply Cost-Benefit Analysis to COVID Debates
Are those who oppose a ban on cars or a radical reduction in speed limits sociopaths, given the huge number of people they are knowingly consigning to death or maiming?

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the...-to-apply-cost

… It is impossible to overstate the costs imposed on children of all ages from the sustained, enduring and severe disruptions to their lives justified in the name of COVID. Entire books could be written, and almost certainly will be, on the multiple levels of damage children are sustaining, some of which — particularly the longer-term ones — are unknowable (long-term harms from virtually every aspect of COVID policies — including COVID itself, the vaccines, and isolation measures, are, by definition, unknown). But what we know for certain is that the harms to children from anti-COVID measures are severe and multi-pronged. One of the best mainstream news accounts documenting those costs was a January, 2021 BBC article headlined “Covid: The devastating toll of the pandemic on children.”

The “devastating toll” referenced by the article is not the death count from COVID for children, which, even in the world of the Delta variant, remains vanishingly small. The latest CDC data reveals that the grand total of children under 18 who have died in the U.S. from COVID since the start of the pandemic sixteen months ago is 361 — in a country of 330 million people, including 74.2 million people under 18. Instead, the “devastating toll” refers to multi-layered harm to children from the various lockdowns, isolation measures, stay-at-home orders, school closures, economic suffering and various other harms that have come from policies enacted to prevent the spread of the virus:

From increasing rates of mental health problems to concerns about rising levels of abuse and neglect and the potential harm being done to the development of babies, the pandemic is threatening to have a devastating legacy on the nation's young.

The closure of schools is, of course, damaging to children's education. But schools are not just a place for learning. They are places where kids socialize, develop emotionally and, for some, a refuge from troubled family life.

Prof Russell Viner, president of the Royal College of Pediatrics and Child Health, perhaps put it most clearly when he told MPs on the Education Select Committee earlier this month: "When we close schools we close their lives."

The richer you are, the less likely you are to be affected by these harms from COVID restrictions. Wealth allows people to leave their homes, hire private tutors, temporarily live in the countryside or mountains, or enjoy outdoor space at home. It is the poor and the economically deprived who bear the worst of these deprivations, which — along with not having children at all — may be one reason they are assigned little to no weight in mainstream discourse.

“The stress the pandemic has put on families, with rising levels of unemployment and financial insecurity combined with the stay-at-home orders, has put strain on home life up and down the land,” the BBC notes. But even for adults and those who are middle-class and above, severe and sustained isolation from community and life is bound to produce serious mental health harms, as two mental health experts I interviewed all the way back in April, 2020, warned.

AVGWarhawk · 08-25-21, 02:17 PM

@Rockstar

No doubt. My nieces appear affected by the entire ordeal. There lives are cut off. Not much socialization other then texting classmates. Social interaction is relegated to what is on Youtube.

Skybird · 08-25-21, 04:00 PM

If its not on TV then its not true anyway.

Serious. Today kids feel they get punished if an adult tells them they should play outside. Most prefer to stick to their consoles or PC gaming platforms all day long and build fat rings around their waste so that they can stay afloat when planet Titanic sinks. Grammar schools have small kids that are so obese and diabetic as fifty years ago was to be seen only in very old people suffering from late onset diabetes. And in cafes and othe rpalces I see tzhe yohjgnster sitting together - texting away on their smartphones. They even stare at these damn things when walking down the street, not to mention: crossing it.

Skybird · 08-25-21, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

And he is smiling all the way to the bank. So, are we to take vaccine after vaccine after vaccine? More boosters?

You mean like with the as expensive/cheap and much less effective seasonal flu shots?

Compared to most other vaccines available, Covid vaccines indeed are cheap.

AVGWarhawk · 08-25-21, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

You mean like with the as expensive/cheap and much less effective seasonal flu shots?

Compared to most other vaccines available, Covid vaccines indeed are cheap.

They are not cheap. They are paid for by tax dollars. I pay taxes. My taxes are never cheap.

Arlo, your vaccine is one me. Enjoy!

Arlo · 08-25-21, 05:46 PM

Reckon yours is on my tax dollars then. You're welcome.

Skybird · 08-25-21, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

They are not cheap. They are paid for by tax dollars. I pay taxes. My taxes are never cheap.

Arlo, your vaccine is one me. Enjoy!

Go back to last year, I posted a list with price comparisons.
That the US was willing to pay more for Covid vaccines than the European nations, on average, is not our fault.

Compared to other vaccines, the Covid vaccines as negotiated last year were absolutely not out of the usual price ranges, and last year at least even were lower than most other popular vaccines.

They payment is made via the local currencies.

AVGWarhawk · 08-25-21, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Go back to last year, I posted a list with price comparisons.
That the US was willing to pay more for Covid vaccines than the European nations, on average, is not our fault.

Compared to other vaccines, the Covid vaccines as negotiated last year were absolutely not out of the usual price ranges, and last year at least even were lower than most other popular vaccines.

They payment is made via the local currencies.

By who?

3catcircus · 08-25-21, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Arlo

It's almost as if some of you weren't around for Polio boosters.

Except prime could sue polio vaccine manufacturers of they rushed their trials or they're vaccines caused unnecessary injury or death. Pharma contracts with governments for covid vaccines absolve them of any liability.

And... It took 45 years from the discovery of the polio virus until a vaccine was available. 46 years for measles. We still don't have a vaccine for RSV. All three of them are far more deadly than covid for the vulnerable. Why the rush for covid? Agree we going to eventually find out this is another 1976 swine flu vaccine scam?

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08-25-21, 09:23 AM	#8222
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,747 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Oooops, no good news. Though not really unexpected. https://www.foxnews.com/health/pfize...-likely-emerge __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-25-21, 01:35 PM	#8225
Arlo The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 214 Uploads: 0	It's almost as if some of you weren't around for Polio boosters. __________________ -Arlo

08-25-21, 02:05 PM	#8227
Rockstar Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,022 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	The Bizarre Refusal to Apply Cost-Benefit Analysis to COVID Debates Are those who oppose a ban on cars or a radical reduction in speed limits sociopaths, given the huge number of people they are knowingly consigning to death or maiming? https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the...-to-apply-cost … It is impossible to overstate the costs imposed on children of all ages from the sustained, enduring and severe disruptions to their lives justified in the name of COVID. Entire books could be written, and almost certainly will be, on the multiple levels of damage children are sustaining, some of which — particularly the longer-term ones — are unknowable (long-term harms from virtually every aspect of COVID policies — including COVID itself, the vaccines, and isolation measures, are, by definition, unknown). But what we know for certain is that the harms to children from anti-COVID measures are severe and multi-pronged. One of the best mainstream news accounts documenting those costs was a January, 2021 BBC article headlined “Covid: The devastating toll of the pandemic on children.” The “devastating toll” referenced by the article is not the death count from COVID for children, which, even in the world of the Delta variant, remains vanishingly small. The latest CDC data reveals that the grand total of children under 18 who have died in the U.S. from COVID since the start of the pandemic sixteen months ago is 361 — in a country of 330 million people, including 74.2 million people under 18. Instead, the “devastating toll” refers to multi-layered harm to children from the various lockdowns, isolation measures, stay-at-home orders, school closures, economic suffering and various other harms that have come from policies enacted to prevent the spread of the virus: From increasing rates of mental health problems to concerns about rising levels of abuse and neglect and the potential harm being done to the development of babies, the pandemic is threatening to have a devastating legacy on the nation's young. The closure of schools is, of course, damaging to children's education. But schools are not just a place for learning. They are places where kids socialize, develop emotionally and, for some, a refuge from troubled family life. Prof Russell Viner, president of the Royal College of Pediatrics and Child Health, perhaps put it most clearly when he told MPs on the Education Select Committee earlier this month: "When we close schools we close their lives." The richer you are, the less likely you are to be affected by these harms from COVID restrictions. Wealth allows people to leave their homes, hire private tutors, temporarily live in the countryside or mountains, or enjoy outdoor space at home. It is the poor and the economically deprived who bear the worst of these deprivations, which — along with not having children at all — may be one reason they are assigned little to no weight in mainstream discourse. “The stress the pandemic has put on families, with rising levels of unemployment and financial insecurity combined with the stay-at-home orders, has put strain on home life up and down the land,” the BBC notes. But even for adults and those who are middle-class and above, severe and sustained isolation from community and life is bound to produce serious mental health harms, as two mental health experts I interviewed all the way back in April, 2020, warned. __________________ Guardian of the honey and nuts Let's assume I'm right, it'll save time.

08-25-21, 02:17 PM	#8228
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 27,343 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	@Rockstar No doubt. My nieces appear affected by the entire ordeal. There lives are cut off. Not much socialization other then texting classmates. Social interaction is relegated to what is on Youtube. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

08-25-21, 04:00 PM	#8229
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 40,747 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	If its not on TV then its not true anyway. Serious. Today kids feel they get punished if an adult tells them they should play outside. Most prefer to stick to their consoles or PC gaming platforms all day long and build fat rings around their waste so that they can stay afloat when planet Titanic sinks. Grammar schools have small kids that are so obese and diabetic as fifty years ago was to be seen only in very old people suffering from late onset diabetes. And in cafes and othe rpalces I see tzhe yohjgnster sitting together - texting away on their smartphones. They even stare at these damn things when walking down the street, not to mention: crossing it. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

08-25-21, 05:46 PM	#8232
Arlo The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,304 Downloads: 214 Uploads: 0	Reckon yours is on my tax dollars then. You're welcome. __________________ -Arlo