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11-21-19, 09:41 PM | #8131 | |
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Well go hide in the closet or something first because nobody wants to see you do that in public! Yech! Take your nazi analogies with you.
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11-21-19, 10:04 PM | #8132 |
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Come on August (edit that) and stop letting them get to you
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11-21-19, 10:17 PM | #8133 |
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He's not getting to me, I was just toying with him. You get him going and next thing he's seriously justifying the assassination of women and children because they are related to a political leader he doesn't like. I figure he's not that far off coming up with a similar final solution for Trump and his supporters too and I just wanted to see if I could nudge him into revealing it. His rhetoric has spiked recently and I figure he's about to blow.
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11-21-19, 11:55 PM | #8134 |
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Says the person who just used them.
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11-22-19, 01:01 AM | #8135 | |
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Okay, have it your way ... It is a strange day when you bait your enemies I'm going to take a break and stay out of the loop for a while ... They say this impeachment thing could last till March after it goes to the Senate
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11-22-19, 04:56 AM | #8136 |
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Trump & August 2020 !
Because they speak the same language and do the same tricks. Vote two buddies for a grrreater (tm) future!
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11-22-19, 05:35 AM | #8137 | |
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Oh, Mr Quatro, once again, the actual facts and truth upend both you and Trump; the notepad is plainly marked with "Aboard Air Force One", a pad which is almost always for the President's sole use (the mobile equivalent of "From The Desk Of The President Of The United States" letterhead), the notes are written in Trump's favorite writing instrument, the broad tip Sharpie (last widely seen falsely altering an official US Government map to deliberately mislead the public into thinking a hurricane, in an way at all, threatened to devastate the state of Alabama), and, the final proof of Trump's hand, the name of the Ukraine President is misspelled (its Zelensky, not "Zellinsky,"), the kind of error Trump does with great frequency in his tweets. So, the claims you have made really don't hold much credence... Donald Trump Carries 'Quid Pro Quo' Notes to Air Force One, Misspells Ukrainian President Zelensky's Name -- https://www.newsweek.com/trump-notes...ro-quo-1473042 It should also be pointed out the call cited in the notes to Sondland was made very shortly after it was revealed the Whistleblower's complaint had been formally forwarded to the House of Representatives, in keeping with the law, and the call appears to be a frantic rearguard action to make it appear the original intent of Trump, Giuliani, et al, in the Ukraine was not a personally self-interested quid pro quo. This sort of attempt to 'rewrite' the truth post facto is a tactic that has been used often by Trump; the most egregious example is when Trump was caught withholding donations made, ostensibly, to the Trump Foundation to benefit veteran's charities; some USD $2.8 Million was raised, but Trump, via his foundation did not disperse the funds as intended by the contributors, but, instead withheld the funds and used them as a sort of 'slush fund' through which to make purchases for himself and to even payout money to settle personal lawsuit losses; it wasn't until some journalists asked some of the veterans charities that were supposed to receive payouts from the Trump Foundation about how the funds were being used to benefit veterans and the charities responded they had not received a single cent of the funds, that was when the news of the Trump Foundation fraud broke and Trump frantically disbursed some, but still not all of the donated money, all the while trying to make it seem as if the news stories had no impact on the disbursements when it was obvious, if there had been no stories, the funds would still be undisbused, likely to date... The nature of Trump's call with Sondland with the claims of "No Quid Pro Quo!!" is eerily reminiscent of an Oval Office meeting involving Nixon, some of his co-conspirators, and John Dean, the White House Counsel. The Watergate scandal was beginning to lead up to the very desk of Nixon and those of his closest associates; they needed a fall guy, a patsy, and apparently decided Dean would be the perfect guy. The meeting was setup and the 'conversation' was rigged in such a way as to make it appear Dean was the actual originator and impetus behind Watergate; however, very early on Dean, being far from a fool, realized the direction of the 'conversation' and surmised it was being recorded so as to be presented as evidence of Dean's "crimes" and as an exoneration of Nixon, and, perhaps, some of Nixon's co-conspirators. Dean was careful of his words and, following the meeting, became one of, if not the most important, witnesses against Nixon and his administration... Considering how Trump made his call statements almost immediately after the House formally received the Whistlblower's formal complaint, with the full knowledge of the now dire consequences of the alleged charges, and how he pointedly made cries of "No Quid Pro Quo!!" in an apparent attempt to counter growing evidence of the actual intent of Trump interactions with the Ukraine, one can only wonder if Sondland had a "John Dean" moment and realized, with a sleazeball like Trump, he was possibly being set up as a possible fall guy/patsy for Trump's Ukraine mess, much as Dean came to realize, in that Oval Office meeting, he was being set up by sleazeball Nixon... Such a consideration could be the base of Sondland's enthusiasm to declare the existence of a quid pro quo, name those involved, and to describe, in detail, their activities. Consider his testimony as a sort of 'nuclear' preemptive strike against Trump and his minions' possible attempts to pin their crimes on him... BTW, on your Black Friday shopping, you should avoid buying Trump/MAGA items: they may soon be next to worthless... <O>
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11-22-19, 07:02 AM | #8138 | |||
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I've been watching the impeachment inquiry as much as I can stand it. The same things are repeated over and over by both sides. It is tiresome. I usually go to the CNN and Fox news websites, US edition/politics pages for my morning coffee. You would think there are two separate inquiries going on with the same cast of characters in each. The spin is remarkable. But there are some reasonable voices.
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11-22-19, 12:24 PM | #8139 |
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I made a search because I did remember seeing the president standing in front of the press saying those words.
Found it on youtube. Markus |
11-22-19, 01:56 PM | #8140 |
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Quid Pro Quo is not on the list of impeachable offenses probably for the very reason that Quid Pro Quo it is not always looked at as an illegal act. On the other hand bribery is an impeachable offense. What matters is if the request was in the public's interests or it was done for personal gain. I for one would like to see an investigation opened on the Biden's association with a corrupt business like the Ukrainian company Burisma. On the other hand if it is shown Trump asked for something for personal gain then he may very well be facing impeachment for bribery. But just because it so happened Biden was a potential presidential election rival doesn't mean that's why Trump requested an investigation.
Its not that he asked for something in return for something. It has everything to do with WHY he asked.
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11-22-19, 03:11 PM | #8141 |
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If he can use them then why can't I in response?
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11-22-19, 04:33 PM | #8142 |
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You can but you can't complain about it anymore then.
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11-22-19, 04:59 PM | #8143 | |
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Fear the revenge of a Goa'uld - these snake worms are terrible narcissists.
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The Democrats, sending a terrible lineup into battle themselves, a left-leaning crew that makes them weak and assailable themselves, are misled when thinking that truth, evidence, files will lead them anywhere, for this regime now simply will shamelessly lie on and on and on and even deny facts that get rubbed right into its face. And the mob cheering and applauding this doing, the gang of political opportunists who do not care for right and wrong, law and justice, but say yes and no on grounds of what serves their own career ambitions best, give this kind of infamy and brutality its undeserved reward. The mob never has followed sharp intellect or argument, fact or truth - the mob follows the alpha brute who yells and shouts the loudest and is the most brutal in slamming his fist into other people's face. This is where Trump excels in, brutality and shameless lie, and it is the only thing he excels in, for intellctually he is a zero. Thats what the mob wants to see when assembling before a stage. Not culture, but spectaculum - the messier and the more obscene and brutal, the better! Let the other side see who is the stronger one! The tougher one! Bang! Bang! Bang! But if the little Cesar gets away with what he does, and even wins the next election, its becoming dangerous because he already has established a new, dangerous, brutal inhumane way of politics, so far not seen in this frankness in the West, only in tyrannies and dicatorships abroad. Long time ago, fifteen years plus minus a few years or so, I said here in some long forgotten debate that ran hot like so many others back then, that to me the most likely scenario for the long time future of the Us is that it will turn into a fascist police state or fascist military dictatorship, which in the end is the same. When I sum up all what has happened since then, I see no reason to correct this prediction. The left will try to resist, and it will even try in violence sooner or later. But the right has the military and the secvuirty apparatus behind it. It will win. And then the gods may have mercy with those who held up the wrong colours. The US will live on. But form these times on they will not have anything in common anymore with the visions the first settlers and foundign fathers had. And all that holy paper stuff in the museum will be worth the price for toilet paper only. The Russians could not have caused greater destruction by launching a nuclear strike. Getting their useful idiot into the WH was the greatest victory of theirs ever. A triumph.
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11-22-19, 05:14 PM | #8144 |
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^ Nah come on, it may be a shame, but T. is not the man or villain enough to bedevil him that way, not worth the effort.
He is intelligent or besser "gerissen" or "bauernschlau" enough to still have 50 percent of americans as supporters. It was hard enough to learn two strange languages, i cannot understand what happens and why. I gave up after Trump and brexit. Let it go, you won't change it, you will only amass hate if you try to understand it, relax. Humans are idiots, look at China, look at North Korea, at Russia, live with the facts, relax.
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11-22-19, 05:18 PM | #8145 | |
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I'm pretty sure a strong case can be made for Trump having absolutely no fear of being beaten in an election by creepy Joe Biden. LOL As a Republican who has appeared in porn, I think I could take Biden in an election.
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