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08-13-21, 06:01 PM | #8086 |
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Repetition of tetanus jabs is recommended every ten years. In Germany at least.
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Then, mutations can - and some do - bypass existing immunity. Delta an example, I seem to recall thats the problem with Lambda as well, but I am not certain of the latter. But if vaccine-induced immunity is far less successfull against Lambda, which is established knowledge, then it is a reasonable hypothesis to assume that it does also is less prone to naturally won immunity by having been ill. At least as long as natural and vaccinated immunity do not result in two totally different molecular and cellular antibody sets being formed that behave both totally different. And I think that is not the case.
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08-13-21, 06:24 PM | #8088 | |
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It doesn't matter *what* is going on, medical care in most African nations is inadequate. They have people dying from infections that a quick dose of antibiotics would cure - of course they can't handle flu, covid, or anything else easily spread. As to your response about the study - the article I linked to is from *3 months* ago, not last year; and I caveated it. Stop trying so hard to try and prove the rightness of your beliefs and step back and start applying critical thinking skills. |
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08-13-21, 06:31 PM | #8089 | |
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A recent paper published in the journal Clinical Infectious Diseases suggested that tetanus and diphtheria booster vaccines are not necessary for adults who have completed their childhood vaccination series. This advice aligns with the current World Health Organization (WHO) recommendations. Reason being is if antibacterial drugs are over used they eventually become ineffective. So I’m content not to get a tetanus shot unless I really really need one. Last time I got one was in 2006 after I had cut my foot pretty bad. |
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08-13-21, 06:32 PM | #8090 | |
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08-13-21, 06:43 PM | #8091 |
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I'm sure we all have our biases, but to simply claim that something isn't true without having actually read it, dissected it, and asked probing questions is intellectually lazy. Most people are happy to digest whatever the media tells them to believe and never stops to even think about whether or not it makes sense. That he said it wasn't proven, despite me having already caveated it by saying more study is necessary, illustrates he didn't even read the article.
I also find it rather hilariously ironic that the study discussed in the article was funded by Fauci's NIAID - and it contradicts several of Fauci's proclamations, further illustrating that he is an administrator, not a practicing immunologist (if he ever was actually a good one to begin with us another topic of discussion). |
08-13-21, 09:02 PM | #8092 |
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Well, lookie there. Someone hates (fears) Dr. Fauci. Go figure.
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08-13-21, 09:07 PM | #8093 | |
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From the article: Months after recovering from mild cases of COVID-19, people still have immune cells in their body pumping out antibodies against the virus that causes COVID-19, according to a study from researchers at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. Such cells could persist for a lifetime, churning out antibodies all the while. The findings, published May 24 in the journal Nature, suggest that mild cases of COVID-19 leave those infected with lasting antibody protection and that repeated bouts of illness are likely to be uncommon. “Last fall, there were reports that antibodies wane quickly after infection with the virus that causes COVID-19, and mainstream media interpreted that to mean that immunity was not long-lived,” said senior author Ali Ellebedy, PhD, an associate professor of pathology & immunology, of medicine and of molecular microbiology. “But that’s a misinterpretation of the data. It’s normal for antibody levels to go down after acute infection, but they don’t go down to zero; they plateau. Here, we found antibody-producing cells in people 11 months after first symptoms. These cells will live and produce antibodies for the rest of people’s lives. That’s strong evidence for long-lasting immunity.” I like that part.
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08-14-21, 03:58 AM | #8094 | |
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ITS NOT THE SAME WITH JUST ANY DESEASE AND JAB. Its also demonstrated from across all world that repeated infections with Covid 19 can and do happen. It was assumed early that these were first infecters who never really got fully cured and so did not fully recover. While this also happens, we know by no that this does explain only parts of those cases. The antibody level against cov19 wanes over time, and so it becomesless protective. It can drp below levels where you are no longer save from infection, and can drop further where you are no more safe from serious cases of infection and need hospitalization. If there are not enough antibodies remaining on patrol, the reaction of immune system and the restarting of production of need ed war material is being delayed. Thats the time virus levels can replicate again to dangerous levels. The more antibodies remain in the bloodstream, the faster the new invasion is recogni Zed and the fight taken to the enemy while the factories produce wargoods. Its also that mutated corona virusses may not be targetted by existing antibodies anymore. The immune system then needs to build new weapons. It either learns that by the patient being ill and surviving, or by a new jab with intel information. I posted a study or at referred to it some weeks ago that explained what components of the immune systems army remain active aftrer an infection and serve as a living memory for IDying this latest enemy. The fewer such guardians there are, the worse early recce works. Its all about the reaction time of central command.
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08-14-21, 05:57 AM | #8095 |
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08-14-21, 06:28 AM | #8096 | |
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08-14-21, 05:18 PM | #8097 |
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08-15-21, 05:32 AM | #8099 |
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