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08-13-21, 01:02 PM | #8071 | |
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08-13-21, 01:12 PM | #8072 | |
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08-13-21, 01:52 PM | #8073 |
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08-13-21, 01:54 PM | #8074 |
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08-13-21, 02:19 PM | #8075 |
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Friends I think you misunderstod my last post aimed to Jeff-Groves.
Someone wrote "we would not try to convince the other person to do anything they really don't want to do." I never said you should convince your love one, but ask them why. It's only pure interest to why some people reject the jab the reason behind it. I understand that's up to them. So we leave it there. Markus
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08-13-21, 02:31 PM | #8076 |
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It's all good Markus,
Sometimes your with someone so long that you instinctively know the reasoning behind decisions so you never ask for details. Now Nancy and I did talk about what I posted here last night. She surprised me by saying She is thinking of taking the shots. I didn't ask why! I just accepted her statement with no comments nor questions. |
08-13-21, 04:25 PM | #8077 | |
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The fact of the matter is that almost all respiratory viruses are *primarily* spread by aerosols. The short-range sneeze/cough route is a combination of aerosol and droplet. But, outside of that, infected people spread via aerosols that float on the air currents and have a significant hang-time. Worse, most masks (surgical, cloth) actually aerosolize exhalate. If you can smell perfume, cigar smoke, etc. while wearing a mask, it's not protecting you from aerosols. |
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08-13-21, 04:27 PM | #8078 |
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08-13-21, 04:54 PM | #8079 |
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Had your Tetanus shot lately?
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08-13-21, 04:59 PM | #8080 | |
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Or in the French oversea territories. Martinique and Guadeloupe report incidence rates close to 2000. Reports say the health systems are collapsing, the hospitals are flooded and drowning, the ICUs full of 20-30 year old. The doctors say the siotuaiton is much wors enwo then it was during the first wave that found them without warning. Healthy, young people with no comorbidities, and they crowd and block the ICUs. Not the old and weak. The young, strong and healthy ones it is. And most of them are unvaccinated. Not even every fourth adult there has had a first jab at least. Local population holds strong anti-French sentiments over some pharma scandal twenty years ago. A French government delegation found very strong words. Covid 19 is not the flu. Will some people please finally dig it. Its not the flu, its not the cold. And the antibodies - they do not stay, they fade away again. 5-6 months immunity protection, it is currently estimated. You seem to not gain lasting immunity strong enough to prevent later repeated infections. Not those who were ill, not those who were vaccinated.
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08-13-21, 05:39 PM | #8081 |
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For the first time ever I toke one of these quick test. I tell you my mom and my elderly sister had a fight with me, because I didn't want to I just DON'T trust these test. But my mom had invited os to a restaurant and they demand either vaccine card, quick test or paper that you have had covid-19.
As expected the test was negative. Markus
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08-13-21, 05:48 PM | #8082 |
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08-13-21, 05:53 PM | #8083 | |
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Secondly we have studies showing that those who were infected have higher levels of antibodies than those who were vaccinated - and for far longer. There is strong evidence that those who recovered may have lifetime immunity, but that still need further study. https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/good...dy-protection/ |
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08-13-21, 05:54 PM | #8084 |
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Or Rabies. But, having recurrent boosters for anything is actually a blessing and not a curse. Some will probably get over their fear of needles, even.
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08-13-21, 05:57 PM | #8085 | |
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Quicktests are claimed by producers to have a sensitivity of 90%, means 90% of infected people get recognised. But validation efforts of various research projects seem to show that they are in fact just half of that, 45-50%. These tests work quite reliable with people with very high virus looads (people that could turn into super spreaders due to these high loads) , but they work terribly bad with low, but still infectous, virus loads of the testing subject, and these are the vast majority. Also, these tests recognise an infeciton only much time later in its development than a PCR test. So your mistrust is justified. I too do not give much for quick tests. Either its a - more expensive and time consuming - PCR test, or one can skip it. For politicians wanting mass tests at schools, these quick tests provide a needed alibi function only, a fig leaf. I would stop their selling completely. A reliability of only 45% with non-super-spreader virus loads is useless.
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