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06-12-18, 05:59 AM | #7951 | |
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May should really have gone after the last election result. I guess she (and the Tories in general) got too cocky about their pre-election poll lead - going by that dire manifesto. |
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06-12-18, 08:49 AM | #7952 | |
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Stll being 5+ years away from state retirement age I've yet to decide whether or not to make up the shortfall because you need to be in receipt of the pension for three years before you break even.
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06-12-18, 08:52 AM | #7953 | |
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Personally, I think she'll survive because even the Tory remoaners fear the alternative....a Corbyn (one of the biggest anti EU donkeys in the stable) led government.
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06-12-18, 01:53 PM | #7954 |
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Well, at least you get a state pension Jim, I don't reckon it will exist when I hit retirement in 25-30 years :P
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06-13-18, 06:45 AM | #7955 | |
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My main worry is if the rules changed whereby only those not in receipt of an alternative would be the only ones to receive a state pension.
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06-13-18, 06:24 PM | #7956 | |
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I too will be facing this situation as a non Tax/NI contributor when I get to retire in 15 odd years time. In my case jim I like the job I'm doing and the hours as well, in the terms of my rotten sciatica and knee and upper Back pain I'm able now take less pain killers by having more rest up time. I would rather do full time but I pretty sure I would be hooked on pain killers and in a poorer state health wise. I do agree with you as you seem to me worked all your life and find out you got a short fall no fault of your own. Trouble is jim until you hit the state retirement age I don't think there is much you can do about it other than cough up the short fall. I know I will not be able to when the time comes but hopefully I will be at the retirement age when I can bang on the DHSS desk and see if I can get any benefits. But that will be years away and the whole system would have been changed a few times by then.
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06-13-18, 06:27 PM | #7957 | |
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I feel the way its going it will but to make it less of a blow it will hit those who have yet to be born while slowly facing it out on certain age groups.
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06-13-18, 06:37 PM | #7958 |
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I was going to be off for a break as i got things to do but it all kicked off today at Westminster. I agree with the media the SNP walkout was a stunt and they will not be able to pull that off again, that said news info suggests both Cons and Lab were doing a number on the SNP directly or indirectly.
PM May is all over the place trying to please the remainers and brexiteers which is weakness and no doubt the EU has seen this. Yes PM May has won the votes at the time of me posting this comment but she is far from standing on solid ground. I see Jezzer got a bit of surprise from his side going against him, Labour like the Tories are a long way from being united.
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06-14-18, 03:11 AM | #7959 | |
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The Labour version would be keep it going, prop it up with borrowing and continued mass immigration until it all implodes (likely during a major economic /sovereign debt crisis where our grandchildren / children of immigrants will decide they've had enough.) Last edited by JU_88; 06-14-18 at 04:42 AM. |
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06-14-18, 04:27 AM | #7960 |
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A slow shift towards something new is in order - now, while we still have - maybe - a small remain of control and influence. The social wellfare state as we know it, is unsustainable.
Preferrably we start relaising that the problem also is the idea and concept of a state itself. Becasue we cannot hold a state accountable. When state mismanaged something - and it does that a lot - it has no consequences for "state". It cannot be sued. Also, state can at any time - and always does so, all the time - uniliaterally chnage the terms and conditoons of its relation to "citizens". Whereas citizens in return cannot do that. Needless to say that those thinking they benefit from "state", support it. Thats why there is a professional officialdom. But if you think about it: its nothing else but bribery, at the cost of the non-officials. And there is nothing that "state" that could not be provided by private service providers as well. Even settling of legal disputes. Even police work. Even military defence. In the end, every state is just a giant wallow of corruption, bribery, and looting that legitimises itself by forming a mob that is stronger than the other mobs. What rules is the law of the jungle. And nobody knows that better than the state itself. Reason alone obviously is not sufficient to make people understand this in huge numbers. So - once again - they will need to be lectured by reality cracking down on them. My pity will be extremely limited. Pain and suffering are the best teachers.
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06-14-18, 07:25 AM | #7961 | ||
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06-14-18, 07:31 AM | #7962 | |
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At long last, some common sense regarding immigration.
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06-14-18, 08:03 AM | #7963 | |
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I dunno its weird how people will argue for immigration based on the need for more NHS doctors, surely the elephant(s) in the room, is that we aren't producing enough doctors & nurses or - we are and they just don't want to work for the NHS because its horrible. Fixing a nations skills shortage with migrants, should be considered a band aid or gap plug rather than a proper sustainable solution. The current model begs the question, what are we going to do the day skilled migrants no longer want to come here for what ever reason? E.g housing shortage, wages vs cost of living, economy tanks, political climate etc. Last edited by JU_88; 06-14-18 at 08:14 AM. |
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06-15-18, 05:57 AM | #7964 | |
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My understanding is that a growing number of our trained medical staff prefer to go abroad once qualified for higher renumeration packages and a higher standard of living.
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06-18-18, 01:28 PM | #7965 | |
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This looks quite alarming if it turns out to be true
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