US Politics Thread 2016-2020

[Skybird]

Twitter just made an interesting decision - that FB previously refused to make.

[Onkel Neal]

Yeah? What was that?

[Buddahaid]

No political advertising starting November 22nd.

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Onkel Neal

There's a big deal here in the States about "the Russians controlling our minds through Facebook".

That's a Fairy Tale, but Starforce ruining PC gaming "was" the Russians.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by em2nought

That's a Fairy Tale

Even the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee came to the conclusion earlier this month that Russia targeted voters via social media.

[Onkel Neal]

(That's cuz the Republicans are secretly Russians, comrade)

[Mr Quatro]

Go ahead vote the democrats into office or even stay at home and not vote

[em2nought]

Originally Posted by Dowly

the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee

Is that like military intelligence? There must be a joke in here someplace. It seems to me our government has been occupied by a whole bunch of empty suits who had an agreement amongst themselves to not do a whole hell of a lot for the American people for quite a while now until "something" went and upset the apple cart. I don't think it's the Russians who've put this idea in my head. lol



I supposed by tampering with facebook Russia could somehow be given MORE of our uranium? Meanwhile nobody says a word against it.


The Globalists are "this" close to winning.

[Buddahaid]

And the isolationists always lead us into a war. Surely there is a land of Oz in the middle somewhere.

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

And the isolationists always lead us into a war.

Care to name a few of these isolationist led wars? Because as far as I can tell not a single one of the Presidents in office during the start of any of our foreign wars (The Spanish American war, WW1, WW2, Vietnam and up to today) could remotely be considered an isolationist.

[MaDef]

Originally Posted by em2nought

That's a Fairy Tale, but Starforce ruining PC gaming "was" the Russians.

I had an o'clocked custom gaming rig when that crap came out, it played havoc with my system.

[Buddahaid]

Originally Posted by August

Care to name a few of these isolationist led wars? Because as far as I can tell not a single one of the Presidents in office during the start of any of our foreign wars (The Spanish American war, WW1, WW2, Vietnam and up to today) could remotely be considered an isolationist.

Doesn't take much searching.
https://www.thoughtco.com/the-evolut...ionism-4123832

"The 20th Century: The End of US Isolationism
World War I (1914 to 1919)

Though actual battle never touched her shores, America’s participation in World War I marked the nation’s first departure from its historic isolationist policy.

During the conflict, the United States entered into binding alliances with the United Kingdom, France, Russia, Italy, Belgium, and Serbia to oppose the Central Powers of Austria-Hungary, Germany, Bulgaria, and the Ottoman Empire.

However, after the war, the United States returned to its isolationist roots by immediately ending all of its war-related European commitments. Against the recommendation of President Woodrow Wilson, the U.S. Senate rejected the war-ending Treaty of Versailles, because it would have required the U.S. to join the League of Nations.

As America struggled through the Great Depression from 1929 to 1941, the nation’s foreign affairs took a back seat to economic survival. To protect U.S. manufacturers from foreign competition, the government imposed high tariffs on imported goods.

World War I also brought an end to America’s historically open attitude toward immigration. Between the pre-war years of 1900 and 1920, the nation had admitted over 14.5 million immigrants. After the passage of the Immigration Act of 1917, fewer than 150,000 new immigrants had been allowed to enter the U.S. by 1929. The law restricted the immigration of “undesirables” from other countries, including “idiots, imbeciles, epileptics, alcoholics, poor, criminals, beggars, any person suffering attacks of insanity…”

World War II (1939 to 1945)

While avoiding the conflict until 1941, World War II marked a turning point for American isolationism. As Germany and Italy swept through Europe and North Africa, and Japan began taking over Eastern Asia, many Americans started to fear that the Axis powers might invade the Western Hemisphere next. By the end of 1940, American public opinion had started to shift in favor of using U.S. military forces to help defeat the Axis.

Still, nearly one million Americans supported the America First Committee, organized in 1940 to oppose the nation’s involvement in the war. Despite pressure from isolationists, President Franklin D. Roosevelt proceeded with his administration’s plans to assist the nations targeted by the Axis in ways not requiring direct military intervention.

Even in the face of Axis successes, a majority of Americans continued to oppose actual U.S. military intervention. That all changed on the morning of December 7, 1941, when naval forces of Japan launched a sneak attack on the U.S. naval base at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. On December 8, 1941, America declared war on Japan. Two days later, the America First Committee disbanded.

After World War II, the United States helped establish and became a charter member of the United Nations in October 1945. At the same time, the emerging threat posed by Russia under Joseph Stalin and the specter of communism that would soon result in the Cold War effectively lowered the curtain on the golden age of American isolationism."

[August]

Originally Posted by Buddahaid

Doesn't take much searching.
https://www.thoughtco.com/the-evolut...ionism-4123832

Did you read the article you posted? It doesn't say that isolationists led us into any wars as you claimed. The opposite in fact.

[Mr Quatro]

No POTUS here uh?


https://arstechnica.com/science/2018...de37NPDoKpBOgk

Pfizer CEO gets 61% pay raise—to $27.9 million—as drug prices continue to climb.
In a recent three-week span, the company hiked 116 drug prices as much as 9.46 percent.

[Bilge_Rat]

the whistleblower at the centre of the impeachment is Eric Ciaramella..

...according to RealClearInvestigations:

https://www.realclearinvestigations....er_120996.html

apparently his identity has been an open secret for some time in Washington.

if it is him, he is nothing more than a Democratic operative and this is clearly a political hatchet job. No wonder the Dems want to keep his name a secret.

Federal documents reveal that the 33-year-old Ciaramella, a registered Democrat held over from the Obama White House, previously worked with former Vice President Joe Biden and former CIA Director John Brennan, a vocal critic of Trump who helped initiate the Russia “collusion” investigation of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.

And Ciaramella worked with a Democratic National Committee operative who dug up dirt on the Trump campaign during the 2016 election, inviting her into the White House for meetings, former White House colleagues said. The operative, Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian-American who supported Hillary Clinton, led an effort to link the Republican campaign to the Russian government. “He knows her. He had her in the White House,” said one former co-worker, who requested anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter.

Former White House officials said Ciaramella worked on Ukrainian policy issues for Biden in 2015 and 2016, when the vice president was President Obama's "point man" for Ukraine. A Yale graduate, Ciaramella is said to speak Russian and Ukrainian, as well as Arabic. He had been assigned to the NSC by Brennan.

He was held over into the Trump administration, and headed the Ukraine desk at the NSC, eventually transitioning into the West Wing, until June 2017.

“He was moved over to the front office” to temporarily fill a vacancy, said a former White House official, where he “saw everything, read everything.”

The official added that it soon became clear among NSC staff that Ciaramella opposed the new Republican president’s foreign policies. “My recollection of Eric is that he was very smart and very passionate, particularly about Ukraine and Russia. That was his thing – Ukraine,” he said. “He didn’t exactly hide his passion with respect to what he thought was the right thing to do with Ukraine and Russia, and his views were at odds with the president’s policies.”